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| Levi4life |
Posted on 28-04-2009 21:14
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the harder to predict it is the better off we, the managers, are.
much more interesting.
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 28-04-2009 21:15
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exactly.
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| SotD |
Posted on 29-04-2009 10:08
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I agree... Hopefully it won't by my unluck this season... Last year I had plenty of that. Imo should've finished around 5th but unluck in basically every race from Giro and forth made me end up 9th... Hopefully this year I can make it into top 5. I think the team is strong enough :-)
The close top is just a nice edge to the game imo. The only thing we need to look to next season is minimizing the trainingeffect imo. Perhaps making it possible for only U25 riders to be trained, because we will have quite a lot of "Super" riders this year, and that only makes the gap between riders larger. That isn't so good imo, but atleast it's an interesting aspect that training riders can be good. But the way and how many riders should be looked into next season imo, if we have another season, which I really hope. |
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 29-04-2009 11:51
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But those Super Riders are now only good for one year/season, because as im sure we will see, guys like Boonen, who's now maxed, will ask for a very very large wage.
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| SotD |
Posted on 29-04-2009 11:59
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True that, but then they will be put on free and they will still be around to be super riders next season...
Imo it will end up with the already good rider, becoming super riders, while the suptob riders won't be trained, thus getting the gap between good and decent encredibly big... If we only had U25 riders to train then we would have some talents who got a bit better, but if they weren't at the very top, they would still not be sublime, only become good, while decent before...
Example:
If I would've trained Contador now, he would become 84 mountain, thus getting to be among the VERY best... While if I practice my talents they would become fairly good, and capable of winning something without dominating, and that imo is what we aim to do? |
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 29-04-2009 12:09
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It all depends on the manager I guess. If you think about how the race days are being handed out this season, its upon stat averages. So for the super riders, they may only get to ride one grand tour, and two smaller ones, so they'll only be able to dominate the smaller tours, as I'd presume in the GTs all the best will be there.
Or, if like you said, you trained the younger riders, then you get a more even squad, capable of defending top rider's GC places, or even scoring points in lesser events themselves. And consistancy is what makes a team get promoted/stay in the pro tour.
I did think, and mention to SN during many chats about it with him, that I thought there should be a limit to who could be trained, but for this season they wanted to see how it would turn out.
I, for example, used the training to get some of my lesser riders into a position to perform for me, rather than just relying on two or three guys to win everything like I did last year. That way I saved money, so to speak, by being able to hire some lesser sprinters and train them.
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 29-04-2009 12:38
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my ideal system would be something along the lines of diminishing returns so that it is much cheaper to train your weaker riders than it is to train the best of the best.
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| SotD |
Posted on 29-04-2009 14:58
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Good points rjc... I didn't know that racedays were base upon avr... I have spent my points on my good riders. Not on the top guys. Well one, but only one... I have spent mine on getting Castaño 80 climbing, Samuel Sanchez 81 Hilly and Mauricio Ardila to 80 climbing. That way I feel I have every type of riders.
My helpers were so crappy that I felt it would be a waste of money. My best helpers are riders like Morabito, van Goolen and Sergio Ortega, and I honestly doubt that they would perform much better with a stat boost...
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| Levi4life |
Posted on 06-05-2009 23:23
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Step 1: Database updated with transfers - Done as of Today
Step 2: Training implemented into database - Now in progress
Step 3a: Database put into Excel form to cdb file
Step 3b: All ProTour wildcards are announced
Step 4: Formula for race days decided upon - Half done
Step 5: Putting together all the rider choice excel files for every team
Step 6: Teams receive these files, and pick who they want to ride where, then return the files so startlists can be made
Step 7: Making sure database and jerseys work in game (all jerseys used can be found in shirts database, let me know if you have a shirt for the man game that is not in there)
Step 8: Planning who will 'race' and report on the races
Step 9: Person doing the first race, Vuelta al Tachira, (most likely to be Me) makes sure that everything is in place
Step 10: Stage 1 of Tachira is posted
With the recent progression can we still expect a mid to late June start time. I don't mean to sound like Magenta..... aww hell yea I do
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 06-05-2009 23:37
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Levi4life wrote:
Step 1: Database updated with transfers - Done as of Today
Step 2: Training implemented into database - Now in progress
Step 3a: Database put into Excel form to cdb file
Step 3b: All ProTour wildcards are announced
Step 4: Formula for race days decided upon - Half done
Step 5: Putting together all the rider choice excel files for every team
Step 6: Teams receive these files, and pick who they want to ride where, then return the files so startlists can be made
Step 7: Making sure database and jerseys work in game (all jerseys used can be found in shirts database, let me know if you have a shirt for the man game that is not in there)
Step 8: Planning who will 'race' and report on the races
Step 9: Person doing the first race, Vuelta al Tachira, (most likely to be Me) makes sure that everything is in place
Step 10: Stage 1 of Tachira is posted
With the recent progression can we still expect a mid to late June start time. I don't mean to sound like Magenta..... aww hell yea I do
My estimate has moved from July to late June for now. |
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| Kami |
Posted on 26-02-2010 20:37
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I have a question. What is the big difference between HC and C1 races? HC rewards more points, but what is the difference in-game? A stronger contender field --> generally harder to win? |
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 26-02-2010 20:42
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HC races you have to ask to get to. You rate all HC races in order of preference. Normally you'd get into the top 5 you ask for certainly, and then from then on it's a bit of luck if other teams have ranked the race as higher. You can only enter 10?12? HC races in a season, so everyone has the potential to gain the same amount of points from them.
As they reward more points, the fields in them are generally stronger yes. So it makes it harder to win, which makes the points more worthwhile.
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 26-02-2010 20:59
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They tend to be the only continental races with a full allocation of teams - and this season there will be 8 riders per team, as opposed to 7 riders per team for C1 races + what rjc said
Edited by SportingNonsense on 26-02-2010 21:00
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| Kami |
Posted on 26-02-2010 22:15
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Does the game also work with fitness like in the game, or what is used? (Random fitness, ...)
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 26-02-2010 22:26
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As with all custom tours/stage races/single day races raced out of career mode, all riders are given 89 fitness for the entire race. That is what is used.
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| Kami |
Posted on 26-02-2010 22:27
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So a rider can be 'top condition' whatever time of the year he wants? E.g. Race in january, and then a race in april?
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 26-02-2010 22:40
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Yes, basically all the riders have the same fitness/condition whatever time of year the race is raced. |
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| Rin |
Posted on 27-02-2010 15:43
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Whats with 2 teams sporting the same sponsor?
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 27-02-2010 15:52
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Yeah seriously. Thats just uncreative. Even though im "powered by iPad"...
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 27-02-2010 16:11
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It's lack of imagination, as is so often apparant in our younger generations, caused my an over dependance upon computers and gaming to provide entertainment, rather than conversing with fellow humans... oh wait...
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