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Sky Doping/Hate Thread
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| admirschleck |
Posted on 06-05-2014 08:57
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
*image* 
You should really take care of your attitude, language and finally start to behave better over here. It's a gentleman club, at the end.
Edited by admirschleck on 06-05-2014 09:07
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| Cossack |
Posted on 06-05-2014 11:18
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atlanta wrote:
Exactly come on Mr fortune teller Colsack prove it. No doubt we will here the well Armstrong dint fail. I think Froome would have had an issue by now their as not been one sample we hear that is even questionable so you keep holding onto your dream he will oneday fail and then you will have the last laugh. 
I'm not saying that Sky are definitaly doped, but their defenders usually just tell these Brailsford's excuses and do not react to the arguments like dodgy doctors working for Sky etc. at all.
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| cunego59 |
Posted on 06-05-2014 11:22
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atlanta wrote:
Exactly come on Mr fortune teller Colsack prove it. No doubt we will here the well Armstrong dint fail. I think Froome would have had an issue by now their as not been one sample we hear that is even questionable so you keep holding onto your dream he will oneday fail and then you will have the last laugh.
It may be possible that he tests positive in the future and no one will know. According to this, from 2015 on the WADA grants positive top athletes complete amnesty and anonymity in exchange for information. They would even get to keep their price money.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 06-05-2014 12:02
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That stinks as rotten meat. 
I mean, as said in the article, it can help maybe to catch the people behind the scenes, who are actual movers of the things around doping, but complete amnesty and non returning of prize money? I dont like it in criminal law and i dont like it in "sport law" too.
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 06-05-2014 12:07
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Agreed. And it's already well-known who's behind the scene. At least if the relevant authorities really wanted to know, they could just follow the money. I mean who can seriously believe a guy in a team with reputed technicians would pay a lot of money to a random foreign gynaecologist (who accidentally provided dope to sportsmen too) just for training advices ?
Or that a now DS would pay money to a haematologist busted several times for the same reason "just training advices" ?
Also, see Di Luca, he gave a couple of names, had his sentence divided by two, started racing again and eventually was busted a third (?) time for the same offence. What good did it do to cleaning the sport ? |
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| Kalach |
Posted on 06-05-2014 15:35
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admirschleck wrote:
But, do you really think that someone's going to read 130+ pages, Avin? Why not just linking him the lluuiiiggii's post, which sums up the Sky's situation perfectly, indstead of facepalming? I understand that all of us are bored of these guys and situations (with all respect to these guys), but it's just obvious that he's here for a short time and has no idea what he's talking about, but just fan-boying around.
That was my point, but Ewan (probably) read what lluuiiggii wrote there and he (hopefully) got an unbiased opinon about all of this, now. 
On which page can I find that post? Much appreciated! |
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| Bikex |
Posted on 06-05-2014 15:46
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Kalach wrote:
admirschleck wrote:
But, do you really think that someone's going to read 130+ pages, Avin? Why not just linking him the lluuiiiggii's post, which sums up the Sky's situation perfectly, indstead of facepalming? I understand that all of us are bored of these guys and situations (with all respect to these guys), but it's just obvious that he's here for a short time and has no idea what he's talking about, but just fan-boying around.
That was my point, but Ewan (probably) read what lluuiiggii wrote there and he (hopefully) got an unbiased opinon about all of this, now.
On which page can I find that post? Much appreciated!
https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread....ost_885780 |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 15-06-2014 08:11
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There's more now. I haven't seen it surface here yet, so let's get going :
Original source.
Long story short : during last year Tour of Romandie, Chris Froome was authorized by UCI doctor Mario Zorzoli to use an oral corticoide after getting cold.
1) Corticoides can be used as a spray, but absolutely not orally.
2) An AUT is needed, but it can't be delivered by a single doctor, be it the UCI's. A board of expert is needed.
3) Sadly for grandmas there's no such thing as a cold, it's either germs, virus, etc.
4) Froome was so obviously ill that he won the race and the final ITT ahead of world champion Tony Martin
The paper questions the proximity between Sky and the UCI now that a former head of British cycling has become UCI's president.
Edited by Aquarius on 15-06-2014 08:12
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| Shonak |
Posted on 15-06-2014 09:52
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Well, but this has happened last year, where Cookson wasn't UCI president yet. So not sure if the paper can really claim or question anything against Cookson at this point? Of course not sure about what the paper actually writes (ne parle pas francais -funny I actually remember that from class
Looks to me like it's more down to Zorzoli doing what he does best, being corrupt.
Edited by Shonak on 15-06-2014 09:55
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 15-06-2014 10:03
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No, it's happened this year (2014), not last year.
WADA is reported to be investigating the matter. |
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| Cyanide266 |
Posted on 15-06-2014 12:03
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It is also mentioned that Cookson's son works for Sky... That proves that the change of leadership in the UCI changed nothing. The institutions of cycling should be destroyed and rebuilt.
Edited by Cyanide266 on 15-06-2014 12:04
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 15-06-2014 12:07
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Lol wtf, that seems weird as heck. A guy from UCI basically allowing Froome to dope?
And how about the spray he used the day he won the mountain stage to Beal? I havent followed the discussion at all, just got curious after that little incident in Romandie. |
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| CountArach |
Posted on 15-06-2014 14:13
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https://inrng.com/...ci-froome/
So in reality there is no need for 3 doctors to meet in this particular case and while that doesn't answer all of the other questions and issues with Cookson's conflict of interest that this raises, it does mean it isn't quite as bad as the headline made out.
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 15-06-2014 14:16
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CountArach wrote:
https://inrng.com/...ci-froome/
So in reality there is no need for 3 doctors to meet in this particular case and while that doesn't answer all of the other questions and issues with Cookson's conflict of interest that this raises, it does mean it isn't quite as bad as the headline made out.
That.
Rest to see if Zorzoli is a member of the board, but I guess the article sums the questions up quite well. |
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 15-06-2014 16:48
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Following Froome's case:
UCI Statement
https://intranet.uci.ch/Modules/ENews/...id=MTAwNDk |
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| CountArach |
Posted on 17-06-2014 10:44
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This is a really interesting little note. Taken from Inside Team Sky, Page 72.
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| Cossack |
Posted on 17-06-2014 16:43
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So Leindeers was going to make Sky stay clean and they fired him to start doping? 
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| nejc |
Posted on 26-06-2014 21:46
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| Eden95 |
Posted on 27-06-2014 13:20
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Sky are a clusterfuck of bullshit.
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| Selwink |
Posted on 27-06-2014 13:24
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I watched a tv-show today at Dutch television, called factcheckers. They proved that a higher level of cortisol causes a higher frequency of colds and illnesses. Guess what's going on with Sky this year (also with sports in general, higher frequency of colds, not relevant to this thread though).
edit: link. Fragment starts at 23min20.
Warning: it's all Dutch
Edited by Selwink on 27-06-2014 13:52
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