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| Crommy |
Posted on 15-10-2008 07:55
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UCI to introduce four-year ban in '09
Following the positive A sample tests for CERA by Tour de France stars Stefan Schumacher and podium-finisher Bernhard Kohl, UCI President Pat McQuaid has confirmed that the UCI will double its maximum sanction for doping cases next season.
A four-year suspension could effectively end the career of positive riders and should act as a strong deterrent. McQuaid told Cyclingnews on Tuesday that he’d personally opt for life bans if possible, but that WADA rules had to be followed.
"I have said before that I would like to see them out of the sport for good. That is purely on a personal level," he stated. "However, we are obliged to follow the world anti-doping code, and that is what the UCI will do. Currently the world anti-doping code gives a maximum two-year sanction in the case of a positive test. From the first of January there is a bit more flexibility in it, and we can go up to a four year ban in the cases of something regarded as willful cheating.
"In these cases [Kohl and Schumacher], considering that these guys were given the product and then went and took it for the Tour de France, it would be very much classified as willful cheating. Next year a rider in that position would face a four year ban.
He acknowledged that the two Gerolsteiner riders were not yet in a position where they can be sanctioned. "Of course, you have to bear in mind that these guys have to go through due process," he continued. "Once that process is finished and if they are proven guilty, I on a personal level - and probably everyone else in the cycling family - don’t want to see them back in cycling again."
Recent evaluation of Tour de France blood samples revealed that three more riders had taken the third generation EPO drug CERA, with Leonardo Piepoli, Schumacher and Kohl joining the previous positive case of Riccaro Ricco. Giro d’Italia sensation Emanuele Sella was also caught by the earlier analysis, although he did not compete in this year’s Tour. Like Kohl in France in July, he was best climber in the Italian Grand Tour.
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| schleck93 |
Posted on 15-10-2008 07:58
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Really nice that they will get 4 year bans now, even though lifetime bans would be better.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 15-10-2008 08:56
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A step in the right direction 
Remember that only 20 years ago the penalty for a positive test was being relegated to last place on the stage and 10 minutes added to your overall time...
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| ember |
Posted on 15-10-2008 09:42
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It has to be said that AFLD would save the suspisioucs tests if there would be new methods to test them on for other drugs, or a new type of EPO. |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 15-10-2008 09:54
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I suppose there's some sort of limit on how long they are allowed to keep the tests. Otherwise, Armstrong would have been convicted guilty by now  |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 15-10-2008 09:59
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Five years, normally. After that you can admit whatever you want, you can't lose the benefits of your wins, legally speaking. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 15-10-2008 10:13
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After 8 years the violation prescribes, meaning you can admit to something without being punished. |
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Posted on 15-10-2008 10:14
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Thought it was 5 years for sport... :? |
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 15-10-2008 10:16
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I think it's 8 cause thats how long the IOC keep olympic samples |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 15-10-2008 13:48
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The Good
Although the International Cycling Union's (UCI) biological passport is still gathering data and is not yet running at full capacity, Pat McQuaid said that riders could face suspensions as early as 2009. The UCI president told Cyclingnews yesterday that in addition to blocking suspect riders from starting races, some could face tougher measures due to the longitudinal data gathered.
"The development of the biological passport is an ongoing thing," he stated. "I am still very confident in the programme; I am very confident in the information I am hearing from it and I am very confident in the ability that it will give cycling in keeping the sport clean.
"We will continue with it right through the winter and into the spring and summer of next year. It will be very well established... I reckon by the beginning of next season we will be able to use data within the biological passport for sanctioning purposes. I would be confident that we could arrive at that stage by the start of the season, both with regard to the no-start rule and for tougher measures."
If this does occur, it will be a new departure in the battle against doping. Thus far, federations have sidelined riders for long periods of time only if they returned a positive test.
The UCI launched the project earlier this year, but due to a number of factors, including the sheer scale of monitoring over 600 riders, it is behind the projected schedule. McQuaid confirmed that the recent peace deal negotiated with the Tour de France organisers ASO should move the project along.
The delay in implementing the system has been criticised by some. ASO's decision to sanction its race meant that the UCI did not gather data for this year's Tour de France. The French anti-doping agency (AFLD) did its own tests and nabbed several riders for CERA-EPO, including recent positives Leonardo Piepoli, Stefan Schumacher and Bernhard Kohl. McQuaid suggests that the latter two were already on the hot list.
"I am probably giving away a big secret when I say that some of these riders who have been tested positive here in the last couple of days were already in the radar with the biological passport. Therefore they would have been eventually caught anyway, one way or another. The biological passport gives us a wonderful opportunity to target riders, which we have done. I do feel that there is a big future for the passport within the sport and that everybody should embrace it.
"I think the results that have happened over the last couple of days will prove to be very beneficial to the experts who are currently studying the profiles of certain riders as well."
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| brun sweater |
Posted on 15-10-2008 14:37
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mb2612 wrote:
I think it's 8 cause thats how long the IOC keep olympic samples
Correct! Under the WADA code it's possible to open a disciplinary proceeding within eight years from the date an anti-doping rule violation occurred. |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 15-10-2008 15:34
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There's a press conference called by Kohl tomorrow. |
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| ember |
Posted on 15-10-2008 20:27
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Wonder if he (also) will make comeback when his ban is over. |
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| ruben |
Posted on 15-10-2008 20:39
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@Crue: Kohl held his press conference today instead, and confessed. He said he used CERA to get into shape after falling in the Dauphine. He was worried he would not get a contract anywhere if he didn't do well in the Tour and thought with a bit of 'help' he could... |
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| ruben |
Posted on 15-10-2008 21:09
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There was a very interesting article in the Dutch newspapers today by the way.
It was about Eddy Bouwmans, winner of the white jersey in the Tour of 1992. Every year he was progressing nicely. First 10th in Suisse and 14th in the Tour (1992) as 24 year old.
The next year he announced he would go for a top 10 ranking. All looked well in Suisse (4th) but in the Tour he finished somewhere in the 40th position. No explanation, he felt well and according to Post Bouwmans was mentally very strong.
The year after that he couldn't even finish well in the Dauphine or Suisse anymore (at that time, you could do both races without overlap). He didn't get selected for the Tour and changed teams. but even there, he couldn't seem to climb with the best anymore, while he had no idea why.
However, it has recently been explained EPO did it's grand entrance somewhere in 1993. What's more, Riis, who was 93th and 104th in the Tours before, suddenly finished 5th in 2003, it's known he did that with the help of EPO like many others.
I feel for poor Bouwmans and all other fair riders who get blown away by dopers... They are/were promising riders mostly and their chance and victory get's stolen by cheaters |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 15-10-2008 21:11
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EPO came in in the late eighties and made it's full fledged dayview (meaning almost everyone using it) in 91.
So those dates are a bit strange  |
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| t-baum |
Posted on 15-10-2008 21:17
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issoisso wrote:
EPO came in in the late eighties and made it's full fledged dayview (meaning almost everyone using it) in 91.
So those dates are a bit strange
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do you mean debut?
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| ruben |
Posted on 15-10-2008 21:19
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issoisso wrote:
EPO came in in the late eighties and made it's full fledged dayview (meaning almost everyone using it) in 91.
So those dates are a bit strange Not if you look at the wattages, they suddenly went up hugely by 93 and further |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 15-10-2008 21:38
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t-baum wrote:
issoisso wrote:
EPO came in in the late eighties and made it's full fledged dayview (meaning almost everyone using it) in 91.
So those dates are a bit strange
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do you mean debut?
Dayview = Debut. Synonyms as far as I'm aware.
Ruben wrote:
issoisso wrote:
EPO came in in the late eighties and made it's full fledged dayview (meaning almost everyone using it) in 91.
So those dates are a bit strange Not if you look at the wattages, they suddenly went up hugely by 93 and further
nope.
Best performances, 390w in 1990, 430 in 1991.
Ask aquarius for the link, he had one to a page that showed the best performance each year, over at cyclismag.
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| t-baum |
Posted on 15-10-2008 21:54
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issoisso wrote:
t-baum wrote:
issoisso wrote:
EPO came in in the late eighties and made it's full fledged dayview (meaning almost everyone using it) in 91.
So those dates are a bit strange
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do you mean debut?
Dayview = Debut. Synonyms as far as I'm aware.
Ruben wrote:
issoisso wrote:
EPO came in in the late eighties and made it's full fledged dayview (meaning almost everyone using it) in 91.
So those dates are a bit strange Not if you look at the wattages, they suddenly went up hugely by 93 and further
nope.
Best performances, 390w in 1990, 430 in 1991.
Ask aquarius for the link, he had one to a page that showed the best performance each year, over at cyclismag.
Dayview can't be a synonym because it isn't a word...
Macquet wrote:
"We all know that wasn't the real footage of the Worlds anyway. That was just the staged footage to perpetuate the coverup that it was actually Vinokourov that won the race."
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