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Le Tour de France 2014 - Stage 10 - Mulhouse - La Planche des Belles Filles
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| I_Mayo |
Posted on 14-07-2014 15:10
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Jacdk wrote:
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This is set to be a crap Tour De France, it will be an undeserved win for whoever wins
Sorry what? Trolling or actually serious? 
Actually he is 100% right.
Who ever wins didn´t win because they were the best, they will win because they were just lucky enough to be apart of the race when the biggest favorites left the tour do to crashes.
You can't be serious. What the crashes have to do with the fact that Nibali destroyed anyone on cobbles? (destroyed=being better, or in your world being better is only having bigger wattage on a mountain stage?). Froome still would have lost something like 5 minutes or even more on that stage if he hadn't crashed. |
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| gotlandrules |
Posted on 14-07-2014 15:11
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Jacdk wrote:
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Well to win the Tour you have to be lucky with crashes etc and Nibbles has done just that, you cant just say he is an undeserved winner as he's proved he was in great form and would have likely won anyway, even without Contador's crash/abandon :/
Such a shame though, I have to say
Of course Nibali wouldn´t have won, the race yesterday showed that Contador was in better form and Nibali would have been destroyed today.
Pure speculation, Nibali was on his Wheel intill the last 50 meters.... |
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| admirschleck |
Posted on 14-07-2014 15:11
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Jacdk wrote:
Stromeon wrote:
jihardy wrote:
This is set to be a crap Tour De France, it will be an undeserved win for whoever wins
Sorry what? Trolling or actually serious?
Actually he is 100% right.
Who ever wins didn´t win because they were the best, they will win because they were just lucky enough to be apart of the race when the biggest favorites left the tour do to crashes.
So that makes Nibali (most likely) undeserved winner? You're surprising me more and more every day. It's just ridiculous.
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 14-07-2014 15:11
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admirschleck wrote:
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Who's gonna challenge Nibbles now?
Porte is the only guy at the moment who can come close to something that's called "challenging Nibali", but that's still far from the real battle. Vincenzo just has to ride carefully until the end and he'll win this.
The only thing worse than a procession would be a Froome win.
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| SSJ2Luigi |
Posted on 14-07-2014 15:11
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Shonak wrote:
So, CountArach and Aquarius won now? Tour was promised to be something special, seems to be all gone by now.
wanted to quote this but found it to soon 
CountArach wrote:
Froome or Contador, it doesn't matter. Whoever wins, we lose.
I'm not to sure if Nibali already has this. if the peloton goes with the "all against Nibali" tactic it might be fun. if the start riding for second place then yeah, game over.
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| Roextro |
Posted on 14-07-2014 15:12
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New podium:
1. Nibali 2. Porte 3. Pinot |
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| Jacdk |
Posted on 14-07-2014 15:13
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ryant wrote:
Jacdk wrote:
ryant wrote:
Well to win the Tour you have to be lucky with crashes etc and Nibbles has done just that, you cant just say he is an undeserved winner as he's proved he was in great form and would have likely won anyway, even without Contador's crash/abandon :/
Such a shame though, I have to say
Of course Nibali wouldn´t have won, the race yesterday showed that Contador was in better form and Nibali would have been destroyed today.
Yes of course, he'd have lost 15 mins by now by your standards, Contador would be lucky to get 30 seconds here and there... 
One thing you will learn if you follow cycling is that nowhere in hell would a leader give sec´s if he could avoid it.
So yesterday was just a few seconds but it was a indication that he simply couldn´t have followed. |
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| Nin1388 |
Posted on 14-07-2014 15:14
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Martins setting pace for last 25 min, and all Astana cant get gap down, its growing. |
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| CountArach |
Posted on 14-07-2014 15:14
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dark_x2012 wrote:
If only Astana didn't set up the tempo and left him return. He wouldn't have abandoned, would have lost some time and nobody wouldn't say he didn't deserve his upcoming win. But now even some of his fans would say he wouldn't have beaten Froome and Contador in a fair battle.
He couldn't come back because he was injured. He would have been dropped as soon as the pace went up and would have abandoned tonight anyway.
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| Shonak |
Posted on 14-07-2014 15:14
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Maybe Kwiatek gets some tips from Tommy V on how to fight for like never before and keeps up in the high mountains.... but well, let's see.
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| Roextro |
Posted on 14-07-2014 15:14
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admirschleck wrote:
Jacdk wrote:
Stromeon wrote:
jihardy wrote:
This is set to be a crap Tour De France, it will be an undeserved win for whoever wins
Sorry what? Trolling or actually serious?
Actually he is 100% right.
Who ever wins didn´t win because they were the best, they will win because they were just lucky enough to be apart of the race when the biggest favorites left the tour do to crashes.
So that makes Nibali (most likely) undeserved winner? You're surprising me more and more every day. It's just ridiculous.
I worded it incorrectly OK, it is my mistake and I apologise, I just meant that this tour will be significantly easier without Froome and Contador |
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| deek12345 |
Posted on 14-07-2014 15:15
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Lol tours over and we haven't been in the big mountains yet ffs |
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| SotD |
Posted on 14-07-2014 15:15
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jihardy wrote:
Roche or Rogers, who will be the new leader
None of them. They are 20 minutes behind before this stage...
They will chase stagewins now. Hopefully Roche will also try to take the mountainsjersey.
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| CountArach |
Posted on 14-07-2014 15:15
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Jacdk wrote:
ryant wrote:
Jacdk wrote:
ryant wrote:
Well to win the Tour you have to be lucky with crashes etc and Nibbles has done just that, you cant just say he is an undeserved winner as he's proved he was in great form and would have likely won anyway, even without Contador's crash/abandon :/
Such a shame though, I have to say
Of course Nibali wouldn´t have won, the race yesterday showed that Contador was in better form and Nibali would have been destroyed today.
Yes of course, he'd have lost 15 mins by now by your standards, Contador would be lucky to get 30 seconds here and there...
One thing you will learn if you follow cycling is that nowhere in hell would a leader give sec´s if he could avoid it.
So yesterday was just a few seconds but it was a indication that he simply couldn´t have followed.
I think that was talked up too much. Nibali clearly had gearing problems. That is what he said himself and you could see him looking down at his pedals close to the summit. He didn't look like a man who had cracked.
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 14-07-2014 15:15
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Nin1388 wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
Shit..sry. but that hurts much more then Froome abandon.
Shows who is your fav?
actually non of them |
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| deek12345 |
Posted on 14-07-2014 15:16
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Role on the vuelta |
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| admirschleck |
Posted on 14-07-2014 15:16
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jihardy wrote:
I worded it incorrectly OK, it is my mistake and I apologise, I just meant that this tour will be significantly easier without Froome and Contador
I was talking to Jacdk actually. That's why I quoted him.
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| Jacdk |
Posted on 14-07-2014 15:16
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admirschleck wrote:
So that makes Nibali (most likely) undeserved winner? You're surprising me more and more every day. It's just ridiculous.
Yes it does because he won by default, there are no one left.
Once you get older you will learn that winning is not really winning if you win because the others don't compete. |
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| Jacdk |
Posted on 14-07-2014 15:18
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CountArach wrote:
I think that was talked up too much. Nibali clearly had gearing problems. That is what he said himself and you could see him looking down at his pedals close to the summit. He didn't look like a man who had cracked.
Sure sure, lets go with that.
Anyways Tour over Nibali will sail this to victory and always be known like evans as the rider who only won because the favorites wasn't there. |
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| Nin1388 |
Posted on 14-07-2014 15:18
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Top 5 from last year Froome, Quintana, RodrÃguez , Contador , Kreuziger will not be in top 5 this year. Rodriguez is 1hr down slready so I dont think he will get back.
This is first time this happens since WWII in 1948. |
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