Armistead speaks out about sexism in cycling
Decent article, and good points
But they only do box-hill twice, the men nine time, i know who deserves more money.
Its like tennis, they wont get parity until they play 5 set grand slams
Armistead speaks out about sexism in cycling
Decent article, and good points
But they only do box-hill twice, the men nine time, i know who deserves more money.
Its like tennis, they wont get parity until they play 5 set grand slams
Team Sky also stole one of Astanas Managers sons, as a stagire, their first in 3 seasons
A good article, but you cant force people to watch womens cycling. It's the same issue in every sport. Maybe more media coverage could help, but forcing somebody to do something never works. IMO.
Armistead speaks out about sexism in cycling
Decent article, and good points
But they only do box-hill twice, the men nine time, i know who deserves more money.
Its like tennis, they wont get parity until they play 5 set grand slams
Team Sky also stole one of Astanas Managers sons, as a stagire, their first in 3 seasons
A good article, but you cant force people to watch womens cycling. It's the same issue in every sport. Maybe more media coverage could help, but forcing somebody to do something never works. IMO.
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Let's pray his son didn't go to his father's team specifically to stay away from that.
EDIT: On a related note, I remember saying in early 2010 that since Contador was going to spend that season with Martinelli (who is notoriously prone to having his riders test positive), before leaving for another team, if he was ever going to test positive that was the season it was going to happen.
I had no idea how right I was. I honestly didn't expect him to actually test positive Edited by issoisso on 31-07-2012 17:21
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Armistead speaks out about sexism in cycling
Decent article, and good points
But they only do box-hill twice, the men nine time, i know who deserves more money.
Its like tennis, they wont get parity until they play 5 set grand slams
Team Sky also stole one of Astanas Managers sons, as a stagire, their first in 3 seasons
A good article, but you cant force people to watch womens cycling. It's the same issue in every sport. Maybe more media coverage could help, but forcing somebody to do something never works. IMO.
I agree
The problem is that men will generally watch the male version of a sport first, but if they are really into it they might watch the women too (sometimes only for a perv though). Women may prefer to watch female sport (over male), but the vast majority of women would rather watch a soap or show about fashion over sport. I can understand Lizzie's complaints, but it is all about supply and demand.
Lets be honest here. In the male Olympic road race no-one was getting dropped on Box Hill. In the female race, where the number of competitors was much lower quite a few were dropped on the two ascents. Hence the standard is far lower.
To force pro teams to have both male and female teams would be wrong. If I am going to have to commit over 10 million Euros to fund a male pro team am I really going to want to have to put in a few million more to support a female pro team that will get me no coverage? If anything all it would do is make the already extremely difficult process of securing sponsors even harder, affecting the sport as a whole negatively.
As I write this the female Olympic Gymnastics is on. Most people I speak to are just as happy watching it because the standard is every bit as good as male gymnastics. As a result there is no need to force people to watch it. If the standard of female cycling improves market forces will mean that more organisers will want female races and more sponsors will be interested. I don't believe in forcing the issue in the name of equality. Then we end up with "equality" like that displayed in tennis where the men play 5 sets and the women 3, yet they get equal prize money and the male matches are still higher profile. If it was true equality the better quality higher profile event would get the higher prize money it deserves, whether it be the male or female form.
Let's pray his son didn't go to his father's team specifically to stay away from that.
EDIT: On a related note, I remember saying in early 2010 that since Contador was going to spend that season with Martinelli (who is notoriously prone to having his riders test positive), before leaving for another team, if he was ever going to test positive that was the season it was going to happen.
I had no idea how right I was. I honestly didn't expect him to actually test positive
swsquires wrote:
The problem is that men will generally watch the male version of a sport first, but if they are really into it they might watch the women too (sometimes only for a perv though). Women may prefer to watch female sport (over male), but the vast majority of women would rather watch a soap or show about fashion over sport. I can understand Lizzie's complaints, but it is all about supply and demand.
As far as live cycling is concerned, the opposite is true. The majority of viewers of live cycling in Europe are either elderly people or housewives - these are the ones who are at home from 3-5pm. https://inrng.com/...-analysis/
swsquires wrote:
Lets be honest here. In the male Olympic road race no-one was getting dropped on Box Hill. In the female race, where the number of competitors was much lower quite a few were dropped on the two ascents. Hence the standard is far lower.
You have confused your cause and effect. Poor cycling is not the cause of poor funding. Poor funding is the cause of poor cycling (and even then I think you've overstated the extent to which poor cycling is true - note that almost no one was dropped on Box Hill until the late circuits of it the problem was the course design, not the way that it was raced). If you want better women's cycling, here are three things you need to do:
Minimum Wage - How is this not already in existence legally? If you have a minimum wage, it means that younger women can take up the sport knowing that there is a logical progression to the top professional ranks without having to be a cycling prodigy. It also means that those who might be naturally talented but not have enough independent wealth to be able to work their way up to the top without a wage, now have a way into the sport. This would ensure the long-term sustainability of women's cycling. More Air Time - The sport is entirely run on corprorate sponsorship and because of this the corporations want advertising time (ie - televised races) in order to ensure a return on their investment. If the spoort is aired then attracting sponsors will be far easier and in turn the sport will have more money in it. That creates more competition and the whole thing rolls along nicely at all levels, just like men's cycling. Revenue Sharing - After ensuring more media attention, give th eteams a portion of the television revenue. This ensures their long-term sustainability and in turn makes sponsorship much easier to attain.
swsquires wrote:
To force pro teams to have both male and female teams would be wrong. If I am going to have to commit over 10 million Euros to fund a male pro team am I really going to want to have to put in a few million more to support a female pro team that will get me no coverage? If anything all it would do is make the already extremely difficult process of securing sponsors even harder, affecting the sport as a whole negatively.
Completely wrong. A top women's cycling team costs about 5% of what a men's cycling team does - https://www.pbkblo...ling/2011/ This would only marginally increase with the institution of a minimum wage.
Edited by CountArach on 01-08-2012 05:59
Looks very scary that one!
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