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| Kami |
Posted on 13-02-2012 15:38
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To bad Ricco was closed in there at Sella's second attack, might have been more benificial if he was able to counter attack, rather then attack himself. Only 8 seconds lost in the end, so not that bad.
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 13-02-2012 16:44
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Stupid Medvedev haters!!!
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 13-02-2012 20:58
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Not bad by Arroyo, should be 10th now.
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 13-02-2012 22:49
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I see a pattern developing in this Giro now.
Looks like Ricco has won the overall with Sella taking the final mountain stage. Cunego would have wiped the floor with the two of them.  |
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 14-02-2012 15:02
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That looks like 11th and 21st on GC - not a bad Grand Tour debut.
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| fcancellara |
Posted on 14-02-2012 15:12
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Just a question, is the starting list that weak or have some riders just developed crazy?
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| jph27 |
Posted on 14-02-2012 15:20
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Well, the TT might not be predictable. It should be pretty close. |
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| cio93 |
Posted on 14-02-2012 15:30
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fcancellara wrote:
Just a question, is the starting list that weak or have some riders just developed crazy?
Well, after some years of racing and training, there are many riders you can't compare with their real-life-performances anymore.
You can have a look at the db used for the Management Game here:
https://www.mediafire.com/?h23c95o577o...5o577oaze4
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 14-02-2012 15:50
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Ricco v Sella will go down to the TT then! I really hope Ricco wins, would be nice for victory to go to a manager who is actually bothered about the game.
Not a great mountains finale by Samwel, but the Top 15 spot at least looks safe. Importantly though, Schleck had a much better day! Too bad he couldnt climb like that all through the race - a podium might have been possible.
Still. If nothing changes after the TT, thats 4th, 15th, 23rd, 40th, 44th and 99th, with Schleck 3rd in the Points competition and of course, the teams classification victory. A very strong race, even if there was no stage win,
cio93 wrote:
fcancellara wrote:
Just a question, is the starting list that weak or have some riders just developed crazy?
Well, after some years of racing and training, there are many riders you can't compare with their real-life-performances anymore.
You can have a look at the db used for the Management Game here:
https://www.mediafire.com/?h23c95o577o...5o577oaze4
Yes. The stats were most similar to real life when the game started n the 2007 season. Its much less comparable now, in the 2012 season!
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| tyriion |
Posted on 14-02-2012 16:13
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A truly epic fight, has me hoping for a report every day I get home. Good luck to both Ricco and Sella in the final TT!
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| Kami |
Posted on 14-02-2012 16:29
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That was really thrilling, especially when i read that Ricco was 2 minutes behind. I really hope that 13 seconds is enough, and on paper it should be, but you never know.
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| Smowz |
Posted on 14-02-2012 16:43
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Wow, great fighting from Sella and Ricco once again with yet more scrambling for position behind.
We all know that Ricco on paper is a better TT man, but TT's at the end of the tour are a different kettle of fish to normal rides against the clock. This we saw last year when Cunego beat Rogers in the final TT (then again that was Cunego!).
I was looking at the database and I notice a fairly big derth in decent young Italian stage racers coming through. Not that Ricco (@29) and a certain other missing Italian rider (aged 27) are that old of course. I guess Cattaneo is someone in a few years who will be up there. But good prospects perhaps for a foriegn raider like Schleck, Amador, Machado and Henao have been this year.
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 14-02-2012 17:42
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Costagli I think (with a monstrous amount of money spent on training him) would potentially replace some of the Italian GC riders. Sure not the best, but he'll have to do in the 3 seasons it'll take Cattaneo to come into his own.
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| SotD |
Posted on 14-02-2012 18:02
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Both Ricco and Pozzovivo got a couple of years to go, Nibali a good amount.
Like rjc said Costagli might be a good bet for a top 10 rider in the coming years with some flat training. Moschella might be an outside bet for a rider with similar stats.
But I kinda like the fact that there are no real potential new "Cunego". Races like this (Despite Fothens crash) is very cool. And with riders such as Pozzovivo still able to take third, we don't really need any further national bonus-mania 
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 14-02-2012 19:07
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If Madrazo does well this year, I may be tempted to try him with a Giro-Tour combo, with Tenorio going for the Vuelta.
He would have to do very well for me to try that though.
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| SotD |
Posted on 14-02-2012 19:36
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mb2612 wrote:
If Madrazo does well this year, I may be tempted to try him with a Giro-Tour combo, with Tenorio going for the Vuelta.
He would have to do very well for me to try that though.
Depends on the course I guess aswell... If there are a lot of TT'ing km's then Tenorio might be the better one. And they have a lot of years to improve according to training right?
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 14-02-2012 20:01
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SotD wrote:
mb2612 wrote:
If Madrazo does well this year, I may be tempted to try him with a Giro-Tour combo, with Tenorio going for the Vuelta.
He would have to do very well for me to try that though.
Depends on the course I guess aswell... If there are a lot of TT'ing km's then Tenorio might be the better one. And they have a lot of years to improve according to training right?
Yeah, at least 6.
I think Tenorio won't be strong enough to win outside Spain without massive monetary investment though.
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 14-02-2012 20:32
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Great race, great reporting.
Rather boring race for my team, but it's nice to see Devolder fighting his way back after the crash. I would have sold it for a top-10 before the race - 13th is somewhat acceptable. |
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 14-02-2012 22:23
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Pozzovivo on a real downer today it seems. Just hanging tough in there. Comfortable podium finish for him it seems.
Sella has been comfortably the best climber in the race - but going to fail in attempt to win the overall. Amazing really with such a mountainous course. |
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| fcancellara |
Posted on 14-02-2012 22:32
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cio93 wrote:
fcancellara wrote:
Just a question, is the starting list that weak or have some riders just developed crazy?
Well, after some years of racing and training, there are many riders you can't compare with their real-life-performances anymore.
You can have a look at the db used for the Management Game here:
https://www.mediafire.com/?h23c95o577o...5o577oaze4
Thanks for the DB!
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