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Giro d'Italia 2011 - Week 2
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Kami
jph27 wrote:
CrueTrue wrote:
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Remember the race for second place matters a lot given the Court of Arbitration for Sport will adjudicate on the WADA and UCI appeals



Valverde was allowed to keep the Vuelta, so Contador if banned, would be allowed to keep the Giro, should he win.


Valverde was banned in 2010 though, and lost all his results of that season. If he would have been banned in late 2009, then he wouldn't have kept his Vuelta win.
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kumazan
jph27 wrote:
CrueTrue wrote:
Twitter comment:

Remember the race for second place matters a lot given the Court of Arbitration for Sport will adjudicate on the WADA and UCI appeals



Valverde was allowed to keep the Vuelta, so Contador if banned, would be allowed to keep the Giro, should he win.


I'm not saying he will/won't keep the Giro, but the logic behind that reasoning is wrong.
 
CrueTrue
jph27 wrote:
CrueTrue wrote:
Twitter comment:

Remember the race for second place matters a lot given the Court of Arbitration for Sport will adjudicate on the WADA and UCI appeals



Valverde was allowed to keep the Vuelta, so Contador if banned, would be allowed to keep the Giro, should he win.


On the other hand, all of Valverde's results during 2010, including his wins in Tour Mediterranéen and Tour de Romandie, were stripped.

Edit: Too late.
Edited by CrueTrue on 15-05-2011 16:28
 
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owks
Except for Contador win , the result are strange , maybe the contenders are not that good. I mean Siutsou is going the same time as Nibali & Arroyo. Scarponi doing the same time as Dupont ? They can't win Giro if they're doing the same time as Dupont (no offence , i am just realistic Wink )
 
rjc_43
jph27 wrote:
CrueTrue wrote:
Twitter comment:

Remember the race for second place matters a lot given the Court of Arbitration for Sport will adjudicate on the WADA and UCI appeals



Valverde was allowed to keep the Vuelta, so Contador if banned, would be allowed to keep the Giro, should he win.


The Giro isn't Spanish, so probably not. But I fear Contadope will be deemed "clean", ride and win the Tour, and then get persuaded by Riis to do the "impossible" and ride the vuelta, and win it by a few seconds like he won the Giro from "training" on the beach.
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kissaha
What has happened to Szmyd and Spilak? Both finished almost 24 minutes behind
 
mgcastro
I think we have just to face it, nobody can outperform Alberto, (perhaps Andy), in my opinion the only way the Nibali's, Garzelli's and Scarponi's can make time is with a Rest of the World vs Contador tactic. The guy is a freaking rocket.

Great job Rujano. Where was Serpa? lol
Edited by mgcastro on 15-05-2011 16:48
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ruben
Rujano is going to finish 2nd in every mountain stage, gain minutes on the steep climbs, finish 2nd in the GT, and then Contador gets DQ-ed Pfft
 
CrueTrue
Still, I don't see how the "the Rest of the World vs. Contador" tactic should work.

So, Nibali attacks. The rest will wait for Contador to do the work. When Nibali is brought back, Scarponi attacks.

Is that the theory?

In that case, let me counter with this: Contador attacks and wins. Or Nibali attacks, Contador counters, Contador wins.
 
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ruben
litllemagnum wrote:
I must say that I never expected Nibali and co to be that bad. They aren't even a threat to Contador. Frown


Hah, Nibali is never going to be a threat to Contador. Only Andy will ever be.
 
I_Mayo
mgcastro wrote:
I think we have to just have to face it, nobody can outperform Alberto, (perhaps Andy), in my opinion the only way the Nibali's, Garzelli's and Scarponi's can make time is with a Rest of the World vs Contador tactic. The guy is a freaking rocket.

Great job Rujano. Where was Serpa? lol


Are you so sure? If Contador rides Vuelta, as he have said, he can be beaten by that "unknown" guy from Euskaltel, who says that his main goal this year is victory at Vuelta.
 
kumazan
CrueTrue wrote:
Still, I don't see how the "the Rest of the World vs. Contador" tactic should work.

So, Nibali attacks. The rest will wait for Contador to do the work. When Nibali is brought back, Scarponi attacks.

Is that the theory?

In that case, let me counter with this: Contador attacks and wins. Or Nibali attacks, Contador counters, Contador wins.


The theory of that tactic is based in that the attacks should be from a long distance. It won't happen. So, this Giro is Contador's to lose.
 
BouBBox
CrueTrue wrote:
Still, I don't see how the "the Rest of the World vs. Contador" tactic should work.

So, Nibali attacks. The rest will wait for Contador to do the work. When Nibali is brought back, Scarponi attacks.

Is that the theory?

In that case, let me counter with this: Contador attacks and wins. Or Nibali attacks, Contador counters, Contador wins.


I know I already said this, but he can't counter attack everyone in hilly stages where there are sometimes parts with 20kms of flat (or Mountain stages without uphill finish). Just the only possibility except from a crash...
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fenian_1234
Chapeau to Contador.

I suppose if he's in good shape now it makes sense for him to get in front and spend the last week of the race conserving energy and marking the other contenders with his other eye on the TdF.

Still, I hope they get him and ban him. Grin
 
BouBBox
And Le Mevel 3rd in the GC Banana
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Juan
owks wrote:
Except for Contador win , the result are strange , maybe the contenders are not that good. I mean Siutsou is going the same time as Nibali & Arroyo. Scarponi doing the same time as Dupont ? They can't win Giro if they're doing the same time as Dupont (no offence , i am just realistic Wink )

Eh, man, don't speak that way about Dupont, or you'll get trouble Pfft
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I_Mayo
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SportingNonsense
Look who Kristoff beat today! Definately an elite sprinter with a result like this!!!!

179 Alexander Kristoff (Nor) BMC Racing Team 0:26:30
180 Davide Ricci Bitti (Ita) Farnese Vini - Neri Sottoli 0:26:33
181 Chad Beyer (USA) BMC Racing Team
182 Frantisek Rabon (Cze) HTC-Highroad 0:26:35
183 Alex Rasmussen (Den) HTC-Highroad
184 Sacha Modolo (Ita) Colnago - CSF Inox
185 Adam Blythe (GBr) Omega Pharma-Lotto
186 Mark Renshaw (Aus) HTC-Highroad
187 Russell Downing (GBr) Sky Procycling
188 Danilo Napolitano (Ita) Acqua & Sapone
189 Mark Cavendish (GBr) HTC-Highroad
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CasperVg
SportingNonsense wrote:
Look who Kristoff beat today! Definately an elite sprinter with a result like this!!!!

179 Alexander Kristoff (Nor) BMC Racing Team 0:26:30
180 Davide Ricci Bitti (Ita) Farnese Vini - Neri Sottoli 0:26:33
181 Chad Beyer (USA) BMC Racing Team
182 Frantisek Rabon (Cze) HTC-Highroad 0:26:35
183 Alex Rasmussen (Den) HTC-Highroad
184 Sacha Modolo (Ita) Colnago - CSF Inox
185 Adam Blythe (GBr) Omega Pharma-Lotto
186 Mark Renshaw (Aus) HTC-Highroad
187 Russell Downing (GBr) Sky Procycling
188 Danilo Napolitano (Ita) Acqua & Sapone
189 Mark Cavendish (GBr) HTC-Highroad


He's so good he even got a 5-second time gap! Omigod
 
BouBBox
Juan wrote:
owks wrote:
Except for Contador win , the result are strange , maybe the contenders are not that good. I mean Siutsou is going the same time as Nibali & Arroyo. Scarponi doing the same time as Dupont ? They can't win Giro if they're doing the same time as Dupont (no offence , i am just realistic Wink )

Eh, man, don't speak that way about Dupont, or you'll get trouble Pfft


Exactly! Absolutely Scandalous! Shock
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