The question is, will they have the guts to actually do it?
I wonder if they'll have 60 riders starting.
More seriously I'm wondering whether it is legal or not. I can remember TDF not being able to prevent Virenque from riding in 1999, a.o.
Yeah, I hadn't thought about that. But well, I guess it's possible otherwise they wouldn't even bother, would they?
Anyway, it would be great if they do it, and I'd like other countries to follow up their example. And it'd be even better if they extended that to the Olympics and the Worlds.
And even, even better would be to all races, but that'll be in another life, at best.
Actually, I'm not sure it's legal. If riders have served their bans, they're allowed to ride, it'd be some sort of discrimination for a past offence that'd have been served, so, in most country it'd be illegal, I suppose. But I'm no pundit on the matter.
The question is, will they have the guts to actually do it?
I wonder if they'll have 60 riders starting.
More seriously I'm wondering whether it is legal or not. I can remember TDF not being able to prevent Virenque from riding in 1999, a.o.
Yeah, I hadn't thought about that. But well, I guess it's possible otherwise they wouldn't even bother, would they?
Anyway, it would be great if they do it, and I'd like other countries to follow up their example. And it'd be even better if they extended that to the Olympics and the Worlds.
And even, even better would be to all races, but that'll be in another life, at best.
Actually, I'm not sure it's legal. If riders have served their bans, they're allowed to ride, it'd be some sort of discrimination for a past offence that'd have been served, so, in most country it'd be illegal, I suppose. But I'm no pundit on the matter.
Britain have that rule for the Olympics, I think it held up in court.
That said, I'm not sure it's a good idea, the whole point of bans is that people can come back afterwards
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The question is, will they have the guts to actually do it?
I wonder if they'll have 60 riders starting.
More seriously I'm wondering whether it is legal or not. I can remember TDF not being able to prevent Virenque from riding in 1999, a.o.
Yeah, I hadn't thought about that. But well, I guess it's possible otherwise they wouldn't even bother, would they?
Anyway, it would be great if they do it, and I'd like other countries to follow up their example. And it'd be even better if they extended that to the Olympics and the Worlds.
And even, even better would be to all races, but that'll be in another life, at best.
Actually, I'm not sure it's legal. If riders have served their bans, they're allowed to ride, it'd be some sort of discrimination for a past offence that'd have been served, so, in most country it'd be illegal, I suppose. But I'm no pundit on the matter.
Britain have that rule for the Olympics, I think it held up in court.
That said, I'm not sure it's a good idea, the whole point of bans is that people can come back afterwards
The point of banning people (or sending them to jail in a criminal offense) isn't to be punishment, but a chance to rehabilitate. The thing is, the shit is so widespread in this sport (in most sports actually, but that's another debate), that getting rid of bad apples forever is a must if we really want to clean it.
I don't know how many riders rode Nats last year but this year they are taking it seriously. Want either swift or again Thomas to win. They do the jersey proud. Cav is racing too, hope for Sky vs Cav battle.
Sixteen members of the squad will be competing for their national titles, with Team Sky’s entire complement of British riders currently due to take part in Stamfordham, Northumberland.
The question is, will they have the guts to actually do it?
I wonder if they'll have 60 riders starting.
More seriously I'm wondering whether it is legal or not. I can remember TDF not being able to prevent Virenque from riding in 1999, a.o.
Yeah, I hadn't thought about that. But well, I guess it's possible otherwise they wouldn't even bother, would they?
Anyway, it would be great if they do it, and I'd like other countries to follow up their example. And it'd be even better if they extended that to the Olympics and the Worlds.
And even, even better would be to all races, but that'll be in another life, at best.
Actually, I'm not sure it's legal. If riders have served their bans, they're allowed to ride, it'd be some sort of discrimination for a past offence that'd have been served, so, in most country it'd be illegal, I suppose. But I'm no pundit on the matter.
Britain have that rule for the Olympics, I think it held up in court.
That said, I'm not sure it's a good idea, the whole point of bans is that people can come back afterwards
The point of banning people (or sending them to jail in a criminal offense) isn't to be punishment, but a chance to rehabilitate. The thing is, the shit is so widespread in this sport (in most sports actually, but that's another debate), that getting rid of bad apples forever is a must if we really want to clean it.
I think it's a very bad idea. Have you fulfilled your suspension then you should race all the races you want. I really hope that Di Rocco's initiative won't go ahead.
kumazan wrote:
The point of banning people (or sending them to jail in a criminal offense) isn't to be punishment, but a chance to rehabilitate. The thing is, the shit is so widespread in this sport (in most sports actually, but that's another debate), that getting rid of bad apples forever is a must if we really want to clean it.
Actually, banning people, jail, sentences etc. serve three purposes:
a) a punishment for a transgression
b) rehabilitation so as to not commit transgressions in the future
c) a deterrent so that people will not commit transgressions
How much you want of those three depends on where you are on the political spectrum
Not fun to be forced to have cheaters in your race and risking them ruining the whole race and what it stands for. I wish race organisers would have the right to decline the entry of certain riders.
kumazan wrote:
The point of banning people (or sending them to jail in a criminal offense) isn't to be punishment, but a chance to rehabilitate. The thing is, the shit is so widespread in this sport (in most sports actually, but that's another debate), that getting rid of bad apples forever is a must if we really want to clean it.
Actually, banning people, jail, sentences etc. serve three purposes:
a) a punishment for a transgression
b) rehabilitation so as to not commit transgressions in the future
c) a deterrent so that people will not commit transgressions
How much you want of those three depends on where you are on the political spectrum
Well, let's just say that I'm not a "an eye for an eye" guy.
kumazan wrote:
The point of banning people (or sending them to jail in a criminal offense) isn't to be punishment, but a chance to rehabilitate. The thing is, the shit is so widespread in this sport (in most sports actually, but that's another debate), that getting rid of bad apples forever is a must if we really want to clean it.
Actually, banning people, jail, sentences etc. serve three purposes:
a) a punishment for a transgression
b) rehabilitation so as to not commit transgressions in the future
c) a deterrent so that people will not commit transgressions
How much you want of those three depends on where you are on the political spectrum
Well, let's just say that I'm not a "an eye for an eye" guy.
Good. I share your view, it should be about rehabilitation
kumazan wrote:
The point of banning people (or sending them to jail in a criminal offense) isn't to be punishment, but a chance to rehabilitate. The thing is, the shit is so widespread in this sport (in most sports actually, but that's another debate), that getting rid of bad apples forever is a must if we really want to clean it.
Actually, banning people, jail, sentences etc. serve three purposes:
a) a punishment for a transgression
b) rehabilitation so as to not commit transgressions in the future
c) a deterrent so that people will not commit transgressions
How much you want of those three depends on where you are on the political spectrum
It also protects people in jail from being lynched, theoretically at least.
