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Tour de France '10 Stage 15 Pamiers - Bagnères-de-Luchon
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| Andreas93 |
Posted on 19-07-2010 17:06
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doddy13 wrote:
- Schleck attacks, Contador is busy and sends Vino after him.
Busy? But this happened
- Schelck looses his chain, Contador does not noticed it and attacked
Unlikely Contador didn't notice, he attacked after the chain drop, and then even looked down the climb!
- Contador to focused on his attack to notice Schleck
umm, nope. His attack hadn't started yet.
-Contador noticed Schleck, but had everyone on his wheel, and could not stop.
That is the worst scenario of the lot.
Contador was right behind Vino when the chain dropped. An undeniable fact.
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| HansiBoyo |
Posted on 19-07-2010 17:06
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Good for Contador to take the jersey back...thats nice
Also nice that Sami Sanchez still keeps 3rd.
And lastly good day for Voeckler....amazing  |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 19-07-2010 17:07
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Andreas93 wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
- Schleck attacks, Contador is busy and sends Vino after him.
Busy? But this happened
- Schelck looses his chain, Contador does not noticed it and attacked
Unlikely Contador didn't notice, he attacked after the chain drop, and then even looked down the climb!
- Contador to focused on his attack to notice Schleck
umm, nope. His attack hadn't started yet.
-Contador noticed Schleck, but had everyone on his wheel, and could not stop.
That is the worst scenario of the lot.
Contador was right behind Vino when the chain dropped. An undeniable fact.
Wrong.
When the incident happened, Schleck had a small gap to Vino, with a further gap back to the group which Contador was taking to the front of.
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| Thomas |
Posted on 19-07-2010 17:10
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So, Chavanel had problems on the pavees.. Nobody even thought about waiting.. |
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| Andreas93 |
Posted on 19-07-2010 17:10
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Still, Contador had used lots of strength accelarating and go to the front of the group. Why should he then make all this a waste?
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 19-07-2010 17:11
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Thomas wrote:
So, Chavanel had problems on the pavees.. Nobody even thought about waiting..
There used to be an unwritten rule about not attacking when the yellow has a flat or other kind of mechanical. |
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 19-07-2010 17:12
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Andreas93 wrote:
Still, Contador had used lots of strength accelarating and go to the front of the group. Why should he then make all this a waste?
In the name of fairplay.
A journalist (i think Richard Moore) compared it to football, when a guy is down out of repsect to kick the ball out of play.
There's no point slapping a schleck - Sean Kelly on "Who needs a slap"
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| Thomas |
Posted on 19-07-2010 17:12
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valverde321 wrote:
Thomas wrote:
So, Chavanel had problems on the pavees.. Nobody even thought about waiting..
There used to be an unwritten rule about not attacking when the yellow has a flat or other kind of mechanical.
I counted 3 flat tires for Chavanel in 20 minutes...
Edited by Thomas on 19-07-2010 17:12
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 19-07-2010 17:13
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Andreas93 wrote:
Contador was right behind Vino when the chain dropped. An undeniable fact.
Not quite..
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| Petterla |
Posted on 19-07-2010 17:14
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ember wrote:
Stuck? I'm pretty sure he had Schleck on his right, he could just turned out on his wheel. He didn't.
And to me Vino didn't close the gap easily. He accelerated whatever he could, and came up to Schleck, barely, not easily. While Schleck accelerated stronger and stronger, I think that probably was the reason the chain got off. He geared up, a really tough gear, and in some way, that made the chain go off 
Just saw it again. Contador definately had to manouver himself out of the group before he could respond. When the chain fell off, Contador was merely five meters behind him, and he showed, again, his far better acceleration.
I've got no doubt whatsoever that Contador would've closed that gap in ten seconds.
On another note, it was Samuel Sanchez and Menchov who took the hardest turns, and the way Schleck rode yesterday when he (they) basically told them they didn't exist, that is just the way it should be. |
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| ruiribeiro |
Posted on 19-07-2010 17:14
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doddy13 wrote:
Andreas93 wrote:
Still, Contador had used lots of strength accelarating and go to the front of the group. Why should he then make all this a waste?
In the name of fairplay.
A journalist (i think Richard Moore) compared it to football, when a guy is down out of repsect to kick the ball out of play. At least journalists of your country compares it to football that way. In Portugal, this was compared to an own-goal that a team doesn't score back. -.- |
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| Levi4life |
Posted on 19-07-2010 17:14
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I'm not necessarily routing for Schleck, but I am because I don't want contadouche to win, and that was a dick move by contador. He's desperate, hopefully Schleck can take it to our new Yellow jersey
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| Andreas93 |
Posted on 19-07-2010 17:14
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No one kicks the ball out if they are one-on-one with the keeper because the defensive stumbles.
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| ember |
Posted on 19-07-2010 17:15
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Andreas93 wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
- Schleck attacks, Contador is busy and sends Vino after him.
Busy? But this happened
- Schelck looses his chain, Contador does not noticed it and attacked
Unlikely Contador didn't notice, he attacked after the chain drop, and then even looked down the climb!
- Contador to focused on his attack to notice Schleck
umm, nope. His attack hadn't started yet.
-Contador noticed Schleck, but had everyone on his wheel, and could not stop.
That is the worst scenario of the lot.
Contador was right behind Vino when the chain dropped. An undeniable fact.
An undeniable fact!? I suggest you watch it on norwegian television.....And I suggest you have seen the good replay that they have shown, from a helicopterview or something..... Where it shows that Schleck has a good gap on Contador when he looses the chain. Vinokourov can barely hang on Schleck, 3-4 metres behind Schleck.
And when Schleck attacked, Contador was not busy. He saw his acceleration all the way, he just didn't respond.
Please stop saying that Contador was only a few metres behind. He was actually on a decisive distance to Schleck, more than enough distance for Schleck to have a gap.
Of course Contador noticed, if he didn't notice, he got the message from Vino three seconds later, Vino is speaking on his radio two seconds later, and you can think yourself what he said..... |
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| Andro |
Posted on 19-07-2010 17:16
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Stop comparing this to other sports. There are different unwritten rules in each sport, and what people do in footbal has nothing to do with cycling. |
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 19-07-2010 17:20
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Andro wrote:
Stop comparing this to other sports. There are different unwritten rules in each sport, and what people do in footbal has nothing to do with cycling.
Fine, i'll compare it to cycling.
There's this unwritten rule that says when the yellow jersey had a crash or mechanical you wait for him.
Happy now?
There's no point slapping a schleck - Sean Kelly on "Who needs a slap"
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| Thomas |
Posted on 19-07-2010 17:21
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doddy13 wrote:
Andro wrote:
Stop comparing this to other sports. There are different unwritten rules in each sport, and what people do in footbal has nothing to do with cycling.
Fine, i'll compare it to cycling.
There's this unwritten rule that says when the yellow jersey had a crash or mechanical you wait for him.
Happy now?
Again, that unwritten is obviously not that common in the peleton since a majority of the riders say that Contador did the right thing and it's bike racing.. You -somehow- compare it to football but take my example with Chavanel as I wrote above..
Edited by Thomas on 19-07-2010 17:24
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 19-07-2010 17:22
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Thomas wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
Andro wrote:
Stop comparing this to other sports. There are different unwritten rules in each sport, and what people do in footbal has nothing to do with cycling.
Fine, i'll compare it to cycling.
There's this unwritten rule that says when the yellow jersey had a crash or mechanical you wait for him.
Happy now?
Again, that unwritten is obviously not that commen in the peleton since a majority of the riders say that Contador did the right thing and it's bike racing..
Not common? We saw it in Spa for pete's sake.
There's no point slapping a schleck - Sean Kelly on "Who needs a slap"
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 19-07-2010 17:22
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Thing is about unwritten rules are just that. They are unwritten. He didn't have to follow it.
THE THOMAS VOECKLER PROPHET OF PCM DAILY
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| Andreas93 |
Posted on 19-07-2010 17:23
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He had still but a lot of effort in going to the front of the group, and would have past Andy anyway.
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