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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 24-02-2010 12:59
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Ive now seen the Kramer incident, and Im not sure how you can feel sorry for him. He must have done that race so many times, and made a very basic error - his coach may have told him to do the wrong thing, but he should have known better
Its not like he was just late in changing lanes, he was supposed to go to the outside lane, but instead went to the inside - but he had just been on the inside. Makes it look like an even worse mistake his part, and afterall he did take an advantage from it - not 6 seconds sure, but enough to be DQed
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 24-02-2010 18:41
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Wilier wrote:
Damn it. It wasn't Kramer's fault. His coach told him to go to the inner lane, while he was supposed to go to the outer lane.
If his coach said "Jump off a cliff" would he do it? Same thing. Kramer is to blame as much as his coach.
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| mrlol |
Posted on 24-02-2010 19:06
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doddy13 wrote:
Wilier wrote:
Damn it. It wasn't Kramer's fault. His coach told him to go to the inner lane, while he was supposed to go to the outer lane.
If his coach said "Jump off a cliff" would he do it? Same thing. Kramer is to blame as much as his coach.
Disagreed.
Theoratically yes. But imangine yourself in that postition. Your focus is 100% on skating as fast as you can, and then even faster. Everything your coach tells you is like God tells you. He knows whats right and whats not, you dont think. You skate.
Besides. Changing lanes to a speed skater is like breathing to anyone. A coach shouldnt tell him about it. |
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 24-02-2010 19:24
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mrlol wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
Wilier wrote:
Damn it. It wasn't Kramer's fault. His coach told him to go to the inner lane, while he was supposed to go to the outer lane.
If his coach said "Jump off a cliff" would he do it? Same thing. Kramer is to blame as much as his coach.
Disagreed.
Theoratically yes. But imangine yourself in that postition. Your focus is 100% on skating as fast as you can, and then even faster. Everything your coach tells you is like God tells you. He knows whats right and whats not, you dont think. You skate.
Besides. Changing lanes to a speed skater is like breathing to anyone. A coach shouldnt tell him about it.
Although i have no idea what the heck i'm talking about (Neutral at these games mostly!), i'm just trying to say don't put full blame on the coach, seems a bit unfair doing that.
But i do also see, and understand your point of view (especially since you know about 50x more about speed skating than I ever will!)
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| jaccan |
Posted on 24-02-2010 21:52
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Sweden won Gold. Yes so sweet |
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| Roman |
Posted on 24-02-2010 22:16
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And Czech Rep has Bronze!
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| beagle |
Posted on 24-02-2010 23:22
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Roman wrote:
And Czech Rep has Bronze!
+ 2nd gold for Martina!!  |
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| beagle |
Posted on 25-02-2010 00:33
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let´s battle of titans begin (Canada - Rossia)!! |
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Posted on 24-11-2024 07:03
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 25-02-2010 00:36
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this is really bad for us hockey lovers because i wanted to see this match as the gold medal game but instead it just gets you closer to the medal round and whoever loses is out.
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| beagle |
Posted on 25-02-2010 01:14
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valverde321 wrote:
this is really bad for us hockey lovers because i wanted to see this match as the gold medal game but instead it just gets you closer to the medal round and whoever loses is out.
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 25-02-2010 01:15
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hopefully
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| dakey11 |
Posted on 25-02-2010 06:04
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aussies on fire with two gold |
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| Wilier |
Posted on 25-02-2010 10:47
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doddy13 wrote:
mrlol wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
Wilier wrote:
Damn it. It wasn't Kramer's fault. His coach told him to go to the inner lane, while he was supposed to go to the outer lane.
If his coach said "Jump off a cliff" would he do it? Same thing. Kramer is to blame as much as his coach.
Disagreed.
Theoratically yes. But imangine yourself in that postition. Your focus is 100% on skating as fast as you can, and then even faster. Everything your coach tells you is like God tells you. He knows whats right and whats not, you dont think. You skate.
Besides. Changing lanes to a speed skater is like breathing to anyone. A coach shouldnt tell him about it.
Although i have no idea what the heck i'm talking about (Neutral at these games mostly!), i'm just trying to say don't put full blame on the coach, seems a bit unfair doing that.
But i do also see, and understand your point of view (especially since you know about 50x more about speed skating than I ever will!)
I happen to be a speed skater myself 
And I know that when my coach would yell at me to change lanes, I would do it. There's no time to think what your're going to do, you're just focused on going as fast as you can.
Gerard Kemkers (Kramer's coach) himself admitted he made the mistake and takes the blame.
Also Kramer said in an interview that he doesn't want another coach as Kemkers helped Kramer to become one of the best speed skaters ever.
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 25-02-2010 14:14
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And Canada defeats Russia in mens hockey. I'm just surprised by how much Canada won by. But now we play the US again and this time hopefully we can beat them. I do think we have a better chance because the only reason we lost to the US in the RR was because of our goalie Brodeur but luongo is definately the better goalie right now so things are looking good. I can't get too confident though.
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| beagle |
Posted on 25-02-2010 14:29
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valverde321 wrote:
And Canada defeats Russia in mens hockey. I'm just surprised by how much Canada won by. But now we play the US again and this time hopefully we can beat them. I do think we have a better chance because the only reason we lost to the US in the RR was because of our goalie Brodeur but luongo is definately the better goalie right now so things are looking good. I can't get too confident though.
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| mrlol |
Posted on 25-02-2010 15:07
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About the Kramer incident; you guys should know how Kempers got made fun of the past two days here. In todays newspaper, two full pages with cartoons about it
Most have Dutch text with it, but here's a few which dont;
Personal favourite; lay out like it's a driving test theoratical exam.
"You want to take the inner lane here. Is that allowed?"
"Yes / No"
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 25-02-2010 19:32
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Is it Sunday yet?
THE THOMAS VOECKLER PROPHET OF PCM DAILY
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| Pazflor |
Posted on 25-02-2010 20:09
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Norway wins!!! Now Bjørgen has 3 gold medals
She's going to be the queen of the Olympics
And Størmer Steira got a Olympic medal, finnaly |
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 25-02-2010 22:16
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beagle wrote:
valverde321 wrote:
And Canada defeats Russia in mens hockey. I'm just surprised by how much Canada won by. But now we play the US again and this time hopefully we can beat them. I do think we have a better chance because the only reason we lost to the US in the RR was because of our goalie Brodeur but luongo is definately the better goalie right now so things are looking good. I can't get too confident though.
you´re going to play against Slovakia
well i did't know that but i assume that we will win against the slovaks (cross my fingers)
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| depappie |
Posted on 26-02-2010 15:08
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looking forward to Biathlon relay tonight, Austria have become favourites for the race today which imo is madness, Norway should win |
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