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AKBasso
CrueTrue wrote:
knasen wrote:
I have a problem on how I shall update tourdedoping.com Adding him again or just add a note on his first doping suspension? I never thought that anybody would be that stupid to dope 2 times.


Why did you note Valverde down as suspended?


Yes he's not suspended, but he should be.

And it's not CONI who should clean the mess up for the spanish, but the spanish cycling federation
 
knasen
Smoothie wrote:
It seems he likes parody.


True. Like parody and irony. (everybody close to me say that I am to "irony"Wink

But who dosent think that Valverde is Valv and Piti?
 
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Smoothie
Probably only him and his highly paid lawyer. Wink
 
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Andrew
Tyler Hamilton has been taken by using doping again, will he never learn.
https://news.bbc.c...004759.stm
 
AKBasso
Andrew wrote:
Tyler Hamilton has been taken by using doping again, will he never learn.
https://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/other...004759.stm


No, he will never learn, because he will never be in pro cycling again.
Edited by CrueTrue on 17-04-2009 20:11
 
rjc_43
It's not like he was doing it to enhance his performance (or so he claims, and I actually am leaning towards believing him this time around). Depression is a serious matter, and I think it's far more important for him as a person to recover from that. Plus he's retired so it's not like the subsequent ban will matter much, it'll be a formality.
I would wish him all the best and a speedy recovery if I knew him. Just a pity he doped the first time around.
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CrueTrue
I also tend to believe him this time, simply because the story is better than the 'twin brother' or whatever story Pfft

Oh, and Andrew, look on page 13 Wink
 
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issoisso
But....but....but Rock Racing is clean Pfft

And still he continues to deny he was doped back in 2004. Of course Tyler Rolling Eyes ....just go already.

This is why I keep saying that most of those who are suspended come back to the same old, same old.

Yet, somehow, stupidity always finds a way. And that's the reason that stupid people will still continue to argue somehow that Rock Racing is a clean team, and other similar garbage.
 
Levi4life
So you don't think that there is some way he could have been using this anti-depressant for, say, fighting a well documented depression?
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Guido Mukk
rjc_43 wrote:
It's not like he was doing it to enhance his performance (or so he claims, and I actually am leaning towards believing him this time around). Depression is a serious matter, and I think it's far more important for him as a person to recover from that. Plus he's retired so it's not like the subsequent ban will matter much, it'll be a formality.
I would wish him all the best and a speedy recovery if I knew him. Just a pity he doped the first time around.


Indeed ..this is also my situation here. Yes drug he took was in doping list..but still. This drug was not giving any advantage..this all is a liitle like embarrassing case..and I am confused to choose side..

(wow isso has invested all he's money..this will be intresting Smile)
 
issoisso
Levi4life wrote:
So you don't think that there is some way he could have been using this anti-depressant for, say, fighting a well documented depression?


Sure. he's a very trustworthy guy who was unlucky enough to have an unborn ingrown twin Rolling Eyes
 
issoisso
Guido Mukk wrote:
(wow isso has invested all he's money..this will be intresting Smile)


I always do that. And I always bet all I have on a reasonably unlikely winner. I like never having virtual money Pfft
 
Deadpool
issoisso wrote:
Levi4life wrote:
So you don't think that there is some way he could have been using this anti-depressant for, say, fighting a well documented depression?


Sure. he's a very trustworthy guy who was unlucky enough to have an unborn ingrown twin Rolling Eyes


Look, Hamilton is a doper, he was in 2004, and I agree that his ethics are just one notch above that of child molester, but..... I believe him, from my own personal experiences I can understand why he would have taken anything to help a quickly worsening depression. Also, the fact that he owned it, the way Basso did, helps me trust him just a little more. Do I think Hamilton is a doper, yes, do I think that Hamilton may have been doping since coming back from his ban, I wouldn't dismiss it, but in this case, I believe the reason he gave for why he had what he tested positive for in his system.
 
issoisso
Deadpool wrote:
he owned it, the way Basso did


uhh....Basso denies ever having doped.
 
Deadpool
issoisso wrote:
Deadpool wrote:
he owned it, the way Basso did


uhh....Basso denies ever having doped.


but he owned his attempt to....

okay, not a good example, but its all I could think of
 
issoisso
Deadpool wrote:
its all I could think of


And doesn't that say a lot about "them" collectively? :lol:
 
lagetcher
I don't know whether or not I believe Hamilton here Frown

issoisso wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
(wow isso has invested all he's money..this will be intresting Smile)


I always do that. And I always bet all I have on a reasonably unlikely winner. I like never having virtual money Pfft


I find it best to bet on a rider you really don't want to win, so at least if they do win it softens the blow somewhat Pfft
 
Deadpool
issoisso wrote:
Deadpool wrote:
its all I could think of


And doesn't that say a lot about "them" collectively? :lol:


yes, but your missing the point
 
issoisso
No, I'm just adding the corollary Wink
 
Deadpool
issoisso wrote:
No, I'm just adding the corollary Wink


Yes, but in doing so your clouding the point...

I mean really, just stop, its immature
 
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