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| Deadpool |
Posted on 24-09-2008 14:20
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issoisso wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
I've been claiming that every single rider is doped, that's certain...
This is about the 3 millionth time I'll say this, and also the last:
You keep saying those things sarcastically, but these are just words on a screen. Many people won't pick up on the sarcasm.
On a side note:
THE WORLD IS BURNING!! RUN!!!!!!!!
(I'm trying to go out in a dadaist blaze of glory)
Nope, everything (including you) is still here. |
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Posted on 24-09-2008 14:35
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*Snif snif* Do i smell cooking? |
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Posted on 24-09-2008 14:35
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"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 24-09-2008 20:20
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CrueTrue wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Will he buy the Tour or ASO? I very much doubt he has the money to buy ASO. Not to mention what the hell would he want with Dakar, etc.
If he and Verbruggen buy the Tour, it'll be the darkest day in the history of cycling. Yes, I'm counting whatever other day you're thinking of.
In the news that I have read, it's said that they (Armstrong and Verbruggen) are looking to purchase majority control of ASO.
The news origin from Sydney Morning Herald. This article: https://www.smh.co...05913.html
It's written by Rupert Guiness.
Armstrong responded to this rumour at the press conference by saying that he doesn't have that kind of money  |
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Posted on 25-09-2008 20:17
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That was the same article I linked; the reason I bring that up is because I still find it hard to believe that the SMH, of all the respective bastions of media superpower that exist, could be the source for something of this proportion. I know Guinness has covered the Tour for years, but I guess I'm just surprised that it hasn't received more coverage.
Anyway, big news with Clerc. He was just a hurdle. Also, 9/11 was a cover-up. |
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Posted on 25-09-2008 20:22
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Some rumours appeared in the French medias too now, saying that Clerc will be sacked of ASO (it's meant in a more polite way, but anyway) in the coming months, probably before the end of the year. |
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Posted on 25-09-2008 22:50
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Press release : End of conflict between UCI-EPA, RCS, Unipublic
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25.09.2008
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The International Cycling Union and the Editions Philippe Amaury (owner of ASO and Société du Tour de France), RCS and Unipulbic have signed agreements today to put an end to the disputes that have existed over the past four years.
These agreements provide a framework within which the parties will work together for the sport of cycling going forward.
All parties believe that this marks the start of a new positive era for a united cycling family.
UCI Press Service
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| issoisso |
Posted on 25-09-2008 22:52
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In other news, the UCI released today the calendar for next year.
For some reason I can't find it on their website....
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Posted on 26-09-2008 08:34
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issoisso wrote:
Press release : End of conflict between UCI-EPA, RCS, Unipublic
Date:
25.09.2008
Description:
The International Cycling Union and the Editions Philippe Amaury (owner of ASO and Société du Tour de France), RCS and Unipulbic have signed agreements today to put an end to the disputes that have existed over the past four years.
These agreements provide a framework within which the parties will work together for the sport of cycling going forward.
All parties believe that this marks the start of a new positive era for a united cycling family.
UCI Press Service
... which hopefully means that we can get a sensible system for 2009 or 2010. |
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Posted on 26-09-2008 08:40
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CrueTrue wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Press release : End of conflict between UCI-EPA, RCS, Unipublic
Date:
25.09.2008
Description:
The International Cycling Union and the Editions Philippe Amaury (owner of ASO and Société du Tour de France), RCS and Unipulbic have signed agreements today to put an end to the disputes that have existed over the past four years.
These agreements provide a framework within which the parties will work together for the sport of cycling going forward.
All parties believe that this marks the start of a new positive era for a united cycling family.
UCI Press Service
... which hopefully means that we can get a sensible system for 2009 or 2010.
2009 please! |
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Posted on 26-09-2008 12:56
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Spanish newspaper Marca has an interview with Contador today:
""El equipo me ha dado garantÃas de que seré yo el lÃder, pero quiero tener las máximas garantÃas posibles. Me han dicho que quieren apostar por mÃ, pero tengo que ver cómo se va a desarrollar todo. Hay que ver qué objetivos tiene Armstrong, con qué mentalidad viene y si Bruyneel cuenta con él para el Tour. Pero si no estoy contento, me marcharé", apuntó muy seguro el español"
The last phrase is important here: "Pero si no estoy contento, me marcharé" = "If I'm not happy / satisfied, I will leave".
He says that the team promised him the captain role, but he's also a tad insecure about it. He wants to see how things develop over time. And as he said in the interview with AS: "I have received lots of offers from other ProTour team".
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Posted on 26-09-2008 14:40
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Stay tuned for more as Cyclingnews will have an exclusive interview with Contador soon.
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Posted on 26-09-2008 19:06
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Sometimes (always) I wish they would just close Operacion Puerto down once and for all. Fränk Schleck has now been called into hearing with the anti-doping committee and the Danish media have once again gone doping-balistic. Jesus Christ, you tell me one non-doped top rider from the pre-Landis- and Operacion Puerto-era. This would be my absolutely personal point of view but I just think it would by now be ludicrous to give a two-year ban to the Puerto-riders. Let's all move on, we're a long way from the goal but a lot has happened since 2006 and even 2007. To ban riders like Michael Rogers, Alberto Contador and Fränk Schleck, three riders who we should believe to be riding on the most doping-free teams, for something that happened two years ago, would just be stupid in my opinion. We could as well ban half the peloton if we wanted to. As I rememeber, the french labs told that approximately 50 % of the peloton had very suspicous or more or less positive tests in 2006 - that number being 25 % in 2007.
Btw., apparently 30 riders' samples will get retested with the new CERA blood test - this could turn into a massacre! Let the name-dropping begin!
Never.
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Posted on 26-09-2008 19:10
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Stairs wrote:
we should believe to be riding on the most doping-free teams
You made me laugh. No sarcasm, you really did.
Stairs wrote:
As I rememeber, the french labs told that approximately 50 % of the peloton had very suspicous or more or less positive tests in 2006 - that number being 25 % in 2007.
Selective memory. You're remembering the numbers to be much lower than they are
The lab is swiss, and Saugy said 45 riders rode the 2007 tour on EPO or blood transfusions and 80% of the peloton was on HGH.
The criteria for a positive is just too strict for them to be able to charge those riders, but that drug use was shown by the tests.
Stairs wrote:
Btw., apparently 30 riders' samples will get retested with the new CERA blood test - this could turn into a massacre! Let the name-dropping begin!
That news is old. They also said no sanctions will come of it and the names will not be revealed. Sadly.
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Posted on 26-09-2008 19:12
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Zabel retires (soon)
**Claps and bows respectively**
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Posted on 26-09-2008 19:24
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issoisso wrote:
Stairs wrote:
we should believe to be riding on the most doping-free teams
You made me laugh. No sarcasm, you really did.
I'm glad you have some sense of non-humour. Also, I'm glad you're even participating in these discussion when you see no light.
Now, I've seen you making a laugh of every new anti-doping initiative. None of us are experts and I think you know my point of view so what would you do in the anti-doping area to get a cleaner sport?
issoisso wrote:
Stairs wrote:
As I rememeber, the french labs told that approximately 50 % of the peloton had very suspicous or more or less positive tests in 2006 - that number being 25 % in 2007.
Selective memory. You're remembering the numbers to be much lower than they are
The lab is swiss, and Saugy said 45 riders rode the 2007 tour on EPO or blood transfusions and 80% of the peloton was on HGH.
The criteria for a positive is just too strict for them to be able to charge those riders, but that drug use was shown by the tests.
I was referring to the blood transfusions and EPO as I don't see any hope in the near future on HGH and because it has its best effect in an EPO-cocktail. Thank you for correcting my geographical out-of-school location of Lausanne.
issoisso wrote:
Stairs wrote:
Btw., apparently 30 riders' samples will get retested with the new CERA blood test - this could turn into a massacre! Let the name-dropping begin!
That news is old. They also said no sanctions will come of it and the names will not be revealed. Sadly.
The new thing being - at least what I've read - that the number of riders is 30. Until now, we've only heard of the things you mention - at least I have. You may have me excused (or executed...) if I've missed something.
Never.
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Posted on 26-09-2008 19:30
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Worse than being an asshole to me is being an asshole to me when I've done no such thing to you. Your tone here says a lot.
Worse even are lies such as this
Stairs wrote:
you see no light.
Stairs wrote:
Now, I've seen you making a laugh of every new anti-doping initiative
Do you take pleasure in lying? Or do you just remember me saying things that were never said? Or do you just magically infer something I never said?
Or if all you understand is the same brand of sarcasm you use:
It's swell that you misunderstand me/lie about me/whatever, constantly. I love it when people twist what I say and express, to turn it into ideas I've never said.
I especially love it when despite my numerous defences of Team Columbia and others against people who contend they are cheaters, everyone still says "You're never happy" and "You think everyone is doped" and other useless dribble that just proves to me beyond a shadow of a doubt that either people don't pay attention to what I say, or are less intelligent than bricks.
Is this post aggressive enough? If not you haven't read it properly. Yes, I am offended by your bullshit.
Ruben's right, tell people facts in a friendly conversation and they'll just think you're an arrogant asshole who's trying to patronise them.
Why bother......better to just talk about PCM and reserve the cycling talk for close friends, people who can actually listen and think for two seconds. And above all people who don't make ridiculous inferrences of ideas that were never said or so much as hinted at.
Edited by issoisso on 26-09-2008 19:40
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Posted on 26-09-2008 19:58
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chuckie wrote:
Zabel retires (soon)
**Claps and bows respectively**
Respect ...I always liked him..he's statment's..cool style. Thats all because this ..I am kind of rookie cycling fan..dont remember era when he was winning everything..and there was saying already between sprinters..that they have enough about Zabel.
He's EPO confession..beautiful ,fear move
He's sarcasm against italian press..after winning 4 stages (before this 1997 year he also won..Milano-San Remo..Italian press clearly didnt like it.. )
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Posted on 26-09-2008 20:03
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We're the awakened, we shall teach the way to non-awakened people. We shall not be disturbed by their sarcastic comments about our knowledges, nor give it up. 
When I'm pissed at somebody stupidity I usually answer it with a sarcasm rather than giving it up. It's even funnier when only people with common sense understand it's a sarcasm. B) |
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Posted on 26-09-2008 20:10
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yeah I know Aquarius seems to be old enough to respond with sarcasm..
Isso..that was exeption..He doesnt ordinary react this way..
Ruben..we all know him..but I have to say ..after a year..or should I say years. I more and more respect that guy |
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