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| smartman213 |
Posted on 02-07-2007 05:04
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smartman213 wrote:Depending on if Vino attacks like his character likes too or if he rides conventionally will decide how Kloden does...If he has to bury himself into the ground carryin Vino up the mountains to catch riders then he wont do that well,
I think it's a moot point. Kashechkin will bury himself working for both and will take quite some time to fade. once Kash is burnt out, they should be near the finish and by then it's every man for himself.
after a few stages, the leader will be whoever is in front. anyway, Vino won't attack as soon as usual. he can't. he's the big favorite and isn't dumb enough to do that in the position he is in.
ok so he's a big favorite but honestly unless he's in yellow in the last week you dont think he's going to be attackin his ass off...Its in the Kazakh blood, now he wont go in pointless breakaways as he has in the past but in the mountain's i bet he draws first blood. With a team around him that is as good as it is he will use them to protect himself until the slope goes up. After that it'll be just as it has been all season on Team Astana, Kloden Vino n Kasheckin will relay together until they seperate, with kloden n kasheckin taking long relays...but as far as kloden competing w Vino I dont see it happening unless Vino performs badly. It's been reported by several sources that Vino n Kloden have an agreement for Vino to lead this year Kloden next year. Kashekin will go for Stage wins. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 02-07-2007 08:46
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the way things are now, I doubt he'll even be at the tour.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 02-07-2007 20:33
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Guerini out. Substitute in is Grabsch.
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 02-07-2007 20:57
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issoisso wrote:
Guerini out. Substitute in is Grabsch.
What cause they give? |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 02-07-2007 21:01
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don't worry, he's not doping. he's been sick for weeks now.
when the team announced the squad for the tour they said right away that Grabsch was standing by if Rogers didn't recover from his knee injury or Guerini didn't recover from his stomach problems that made him retire from the Tour de Suisse.
this stomach virus has been going around in the peloton since february.
Cavendish was the first to get it, and many people have suffered. it's the same reason Danielson isn't at the tour.
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 02-07-2007 22:36
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Just to let you know, the Guardian are giving away a 68 page Tour guide with this Mondays (2nd July) paper
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| Crommy |
Posted on 02-07-2007 22:37
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But it's the Guardian 
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 02-07-2007 23:42
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Here's the almost official start list:
T-Mobile
Linus GERDEMANN
Patrik SINKEWITZ
Michael ROGERS
Bert GRABSCH
Axel MERCKX
Mark CAVENDISH
Kim KIRCHEN
Marcus BURGHARDT
Bernhard EISEL
Saunier Duval-Prodir
Juan Jose COBO ACEBO
Christophe RINERO
Francisco José VENTOSO
David MILLAR
David DE LA FUENTE RASILLA
David CANADA GRACIA
Ruben LOBATO ELVIRA
Iker CAMANO ORTUZAR
Iban MAYO DIEZ
Rabobank
Grischa NIERMANN
Michael BOOGERD
Bram DE GROOT
Juan Antonio FLECHA GIANNONI
Thomas DEKKER
Oscar FREIRE GOMEZ
Pieter WEENING
Denis MENCHOV
Michael RASMUSSEN
Quick Step-Innergetic
Sébastien ROSSELER
Steven DE JONGH
Matteo TOSATTO
Gert STEEGMANS
Tom BOONEN
Cédric VASSEUR
Bram TANKINK
Carlos BARREDO LLAMAZALES
Juan Manuel GARATE
Predictor-Lotto
Mario AERTS
Cadel EVANS
Fred RODRIGUEZ
Dario David CIONI
Chris HORNER
Wim VANSEVENANT
Leif HOSTE
Robbie MCEWEN
Johan VANSUMMEREN
Milram
Marcel SIEBERG
Alberto ONGARATO
Ralf GRABSCH
Brett LANCASTER
Christian KNEES
Alessandro PETACCHI
Erik ZABEL
Enrico POITSCHKE
Alessandro CORTINOVIS
Liquigas
Manuel BELTRAN MARTINEZ
Charles WEGELIUS
Filippo POZZATO
Manuel QUINZIATO
Michael ALBASINI
Kjell CARLSTRÖM
Murilo FISCHER
Aliaksandr KUCHYNSKI
Frederik WILLEMS
Lampre - Fondital
Patxi VILA ERRANDONEA
Daniele BENNATI
Tadej VALJAVEC
Alessandro BALLAN
Daniele RIGHI
Marzio BRUSEGHIN
Paolo BOSSONI
Danilo NAPOLITANO
Claudio CORIONI
Gerolsteiner
Peter WROLICH
Markus FOTHEN
SVEN KRAUß
Stefan SCHUMACHER
Robert FÖRSTER
Bernhard KOHL
Ronny SCHOLZ
Fabian WEGMANN
Heinrich HAUSSLER
Francaise des Jeux
Sébastien CHAVANEL
Thomas LÖVKVIST
Benoît VAUGRENARD
Sandy CASAR
Lilian JÉGOU
Philippe GILBERT
Rémy DI GRÉGORIO
Mickael DELAGE
Mathieu LADAGNOUS
Euskaltel-Euskardi
Haimar ZUBELDIA AGIRRE
Inigo LANDALUZE INTXAURRAGA
Jorge AZANZA SOTO
Amets TXURRUKA
Mikel ASTARLOZA CHAURREAU
Gorka VERDUGO MARCOTEGUI
Inaki ISASI FLORES
Igor ANTON HERNANDEZ
Ruben PEREZ MORENO
Discovery Channel
Yaroslav POPOVYCH
Vladimir GOUSSEV
Sergio Miguel Moreira PAULINHO
Tomas VAITKUS
Alberto CONTADOR VELASCO
Egoi MARTINEZ DE ESTEBAN
George HINCAPIE
Levi LEIPHEIMER
Benjamin NOVAL GONZALEZ
Team CSC
Fabian CANCELLARA
Jens VOIGT
Frank SCHLECK
Stuart OGRADY
David ZABRISKIE
Christian VANDEVELDE
Iñigo CUESTA LOPEZ DE CASTRO
Kurt-Asle ARVESEN
Carlos SASTRE CANDIL
Credit Agricole
Alexandre BOTCHAROV
Julian DEAN
Patrice HALGAND
Thor HUSHOVD
Christophe LE MEVEL
Sébastien HINAULT
Dmitriy FOFONOV
William BONNET
Anthony CHARTEAU
Cofidis
Cristian MORENI
Sylvain CHAVANEL
Ivan Ramiro PARRA PINTO
Nick NUYENS
Rik VERBRUGGHE
Geoffroy LEQUATRE
Bradley WIGGINS
Stéphane AUGÉ
Staf SCHEIRLINCKX
Caisse d´Epargne
Alejandro VALVERDE BELMONTE
Oscar PEREIRO SIO
Nicolas PORTAL
Vladimir KARPETS
Xabier ZANDIO ECHAIDE
José Vicente GARCIA ACOSTA
Francisco PEREZ SANCHEZ
David ARROYO DURAN
José Ivan GUTIERREZ PALACIOS
Boygues Telecom
Stef CLEMENT
Pierrick FEDRIGO
Thomas VOECKLER
Anthony GESLIN
Jérôme PINEAU
Laurent LEFEVRE
Xavier FLORENCIO CABRE
Matthieu SPRICK
Johann TSCHOPP
Barloworld
Geraint THOMAS
Juan Mauricio SOLER HERNANDEZ
Kanstantin SIUTSOU
Paolo LONGO BORGHINI
Robert HUNTER
Alexander EFIMKIN
Enrico DEGANO
Giampaolo CHEULA
Félix Rafael CARDENAS RAVALO
Astana
Serguei IVANOV
Paolo SAVOLDELLI
Maxim IGLINSKIY
Grégory RAST
Daniel NAVARRO GARCIA
Antonio COLOM MAS
Andrey KASHECHKIN
Andreas KLÖDEN
Alexandre VINOKOUROV
Agritubel
Nicolas VOGONDY
Benoît SALMON
Juan Miguel MERCADO MARTIN
Nicolas JALABERT
Cédric HERVÉ
Eduardo GONZALO RAMIREZ
Romain FEILLU
Moises DUENAS NEVADO
Freddy BICHOT
AG2r
Sylvain CALZATI
Stéphane GOUBERT
Simon GERRANS
Martin ELMIGER
Ludovic TURPIN
José Luis ARRIETA LUJAMBIO
John GADRET
Cyril DESSEL
Christophe MOREAU |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 02-07-2007 23:45
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I wish it started already....mostly because it would mean I'd be on vacation...or at least one exam away from it 
anyway, I like Saunier's team. like in the sense that it's very diverse. looking good for a stage win. but not in the mountains
Edited by issoisso on 02-07-2007 23:46
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 02-07-2007 23:49
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It's a shame that Manchante isn't in their team because of illness. He's an amazing climber, and it would have been interesting to see what he could deliver -- maybe a top 5? |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 02-07-2007 23:51
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actually I'd be surprised if he cracked the top 10. next year or so. he's still young.
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 03-07-2007 00:53
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CrueTrue wrote:
It's a shame that Manchante isn't in their team because of illness. He's an amazing climber, and it would have been interesting to see what he could deliver -- maybe a top 5?
Yes I can share that...shame that Marchante is out. Last year I didn't cear about that yellow shirt team. But this year they are deffinetly one of the most sympathetic teams.
I must be blind..but I like T-Mobile list. |
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| Phanekim |
Posted on 03-07-2007 04:56
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Since Vino might be out and even if he is in he is without his dope, I'm going with Levi.
But gosh darn, i just want a clean TDF. I mean seriously, cmon..just one clean tour, just one glimpse of how it used to be....gosh darn it... |
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| Levi4life |
Posted on 03-07-2007 05:24
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Good choice Phanekim. knock on wood but i think that this tour will be clean and the winner might be an American Born in Butte and residing not so far away from where i live and training on the same roads i train on. |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 03-07-2007 09:39
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Phanekim wrote:
Since Vino might be out and even if he is in he is without his dope, I'm going with Levi.
But gosh darn, i just want a clean TDF. I mean seriously, cmon..just one clean tour, just one glimpse of how it used to be....gosh darn it...
Yeah, it would be great to see the first TdF-winner since 1995 (according to ASO, that is) |
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| AliAmad |
Posted on 03-07-2007 13:55
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Does anyone know if TV5 Orient is bringing the TdF cuz i kind of remember watching it there 6-7 years ago and if not where could i get a list of channels that get TdF? |
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| cmfos |
Posted on 03-07-2007 15:48
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Guido Mukk wrote:
CrueTrue wrote:
It's a shame that Manchante isn't in their team because of illness. He's an amazing climber, and it would have been interesting to see what he could deliver -- maybe a top 5?
Yes I can share that...shame that Marchante is out. Last year I didn't cear about that yellow shirt team. But this year they are deffinetly one of the most sympathetic teams.
I must be blind..but I like T-Mobile list.
As usual, I have to agree with you Guido. T-Mobile loaded up their lineup with the best they've got. They've lost their three main guys since last year but I admire the fact that they are still going for it. Should be fun to see how Cavendish fares in the sprints and I think that Rogers has the potential for a top 5 although I hear he's been struggling with injuries lately.
Also, it's clear that Caisse is going for it. No surprise really given that they have Valverde but they loaded up their big guns for the TdF this year.
In contrast, Liquigas looks like they are sending in a bunch of B-listers (other than Pozzato but what can he do without good team support?). Also, Bouyges is as weak as ever. I read on cyclingnews that the team is not even going to put forth a leader. Everyone for himself, I guess.
But I'm ready for Le Tour! My wife convinced me to get DVR so that we can tape all of the stages and then watch them without commercials! So I hope that the coverage on Vs. doesn't suck wad like it did last year.
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Posted on 03-07-2007 15:53
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CrueTrue wrote:
Phanekim wrote:
Since Vino might be out and even if he is in he is without his dope, I'm going with Levi.
But gosh darn, i just want a clean TDF. I mean seriously, cmon..just one clean tour, just one glimpse of how it used to be....gosh darn it...
Yeah, it would be great to see the first TdF-winner since 1995 (according to ASO, that is)
Well, if you believe in rumours, then you'd have to go back further than that. Lots of rumours that Indurain was doped to the gills throughout his 5 wins. Nothing substantiated through (just as is the case for Armstrong  ) |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 03-07-2007 16:01
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Di Luca and Mazzoleni's auditions postponed for almost two weeks....typical courts...
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| Smoothie |
Posted on 03-07-2007 16:09
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Do you think they are guilty? |
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