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Ian Butler
Yeah that list... Rolland and Voeckler level 0

I want to believe they're clean, but levle 0 seems a bit too naive, no? Pfft
 
Shonak
Horner 0 :lol:
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MartijnVDD
The list is based on bloodsamples from July 2010 though.
https://www.cqrank...derid=3461

Horner is strange indeed...
Edited by MartijnVDD on 24-01-2014 10:10
 
I_Mayo
Scrolling through cycling news pictures from stage I noticed that Cunego looks very slim. Don't want to make bold predictions, but maybe he wants to prove that he's not done.
 
Aquarius
MartijnVDD wrote:
If he's doping, maybe he only starts doing it in preparation of the Tour.

Also, about that list. I don't know what to think about Santambrogio being "only" level 6 and Ballan level 5. It either proves that everyone above them must be or have been using dope, or that the list is inaccurate.

Not that simple :
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issoisso wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
Don't misinterpret it.
It's the priority for testing riders, not simply how suspicious they are.
From memory, UCI explained, but not L'Équipe (IIRC), that the number was based on different factors, such as date of the last tests for the bio passport, suspicion based on the previous tests results, number of tests undergone that season already, etc.

It was definitely not as simplistic as 10 : certainly doping, 0, definitely not doping


They also said that that could only change the priority by 2 points at most from the original ranking which was solely taken from the blood passport values
 
titleist82
Ian Butler wrote:
Yeah that list... Rolland and Voeckler level 0

I want to believe they're clean, but levle 0 seems a bit too naive, no? Pfft


sorry, i didn't mean to bring back the discussion about that list.

my point is that there are some riders who tends to have a decent form through nearly the whole season. with peaks of performance when their main goals approach (nibali, evans) and others that do shit all year except from 2-3 races (vdb, schlecks).

for sure attitude and motivation play a big role in this case, but, to me, the latter ones look more suspicious.

on the other hand, performing like an alien throughout the whole season is even more suspicious (wiggo 2012, froome 2013)
 
fosforgasXIII
titleist82 wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
Yeah that list... Rolland and Voeckler level 0

I want to believe they're clean, but levle 0 seems a bit too naive, no? Pfft


sorry, i didn't mean to bring back the discussion about that list.

my point is that there are some riders who tends to have a decent form through nearly the whole season. with peaks of performance when their main goals approach (nibali, evans) and others that do shit all year except from 2-3 races (vdb, schlecks).

for sure attitude and motivation play a big role in this case, but, to me, the latter ones look more suspicious.

on the other hand, performing like an alien throughout the whole season is even more suspicious (wiggo 2012, froome 2013)


VdB performed better in this race than Nibali or Rodriguez so far. I'm pretty sure they don't give a shit about race and see it as a glorified training ride.
Edited by fosforgasXIII on 24-01-2014 15:30
 
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The Hobbit
Some actual dopers at level 1+2, Armstrong only 4, Contador 5. In summary, not that good a list, would be interesting to see the modern version of this.
 
Failured
In case you missed the final kilometers of Tour de San Luis 2014 - Stage 5 here it is:
 
SSJ2Luigi
Ian Butler wrote:
Yeah that list... Rolland and Voeckler level 0

I want to believe they're clean, but levle 0 seems a bit too naive, no? Pfft

now, possibly

then: who the fuck is Rolland?
 
wogsrus
Adam Yates in the young riders jersey has done a fabulous job so far.
 
I_Mayo
wogsrus wrote:
Adam Yates in the young riders jersey has done a fabulous job so far.


For God's sake, would you stop, please? I'm sick and tired of this "FIFA generation" that sees young and talented athlete and then just have to mention every single damn thing they do like it's some sort of day's headline. What's next? "Adam Yates took a shit in toilet. Job well done?"
 
Malkael
That's "Football Manager generation" to you good sir. Real "hipsters" go all out with the homegrown You'll Never Win Anything With Kids challenge. Pfft
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SportingNonsense
And as nice as it is to see Adam Yates doing well and 13th overall is great for a first pro race, but the young rider jersey is really an emphasis on young here. Sepulveda is 22, ahead of him overall, but too old for the young rider's jersey.
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issoisso
SSJ2Luigi wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
Yeah that list... Rolland and Voeckler level 0

I want to believe they're clean, but levle 0 seems a bit too naive, no? Pfft

now, possibly

then: who the fuck is Rolland?


Then: 'That young french climber who was supposed to be the next big thing 2 years ago but hasn't done anything since'

Now: 'That french climber who was supposed to be the next big thing 2 years ago but hasn't done anything since'
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Failured
In case you missed the final kilometers of Tour de San Luis 2014 - Stage 6 here it is:
 
fosforgasXIII
 
CountArach
I_Mayo wrote:
wogsrus wrote:
Adam Yates in the young riders jersey has done a fabulous job so far.


For God's sake, would you stop, please? I'm sick and tired of this "FIFA generation" that sees young and talented athlete and then just have to mention every single damn thing they do like it's some sort of day's headline. What's next? "Adam Yates took a shit in toilet. Job well done?"


It looks like the fun police arrived.
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wogsrus
I_Mayo wrote:
wogsrus wrote:Adam Yates in the young riders jersey has done a fabulous job so far.
For God's sake, would you stop, please? I'm sick and tired of this "FIFA generation" that sees young and talented athlete and then just have to mention every single damn thing they do like it's some sort of day's headline. What's next? "Adam Yates took a shit in toilet. Job well done?"
Which part of your menstrual cycle are you going through? Take it easy lad.

Nice to see Arredondo stepping up so well.
 
Wilier
Well this puts the performance of the local riders in perspective... And Farrar gets run over by a team car.

 
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