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Talent thread
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 16-08-2013 13:10
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Some great talents there!
And sponsoring doesn't have any effect. Well, if you have too much money, you can use it, to get rid of it 
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| Shonak |
Posted on 16-08-2013 13:25
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Thanks. 
So each year I discover a huge talent I should try to hire him in mid-season/at the end, maybe even right away? Is it possible that they are still available next season (age 20-22)? Obviously this is a risky move, but alas, unfortunately one can only have 30 riders. And yes, I actually do have too much cash thanks to Mister Winterkorn at Volkswagen. 6.2 mio/year, he is throwing money at us like we are a football club (well, actually I suppose it doesn't really come close to his invested sums in VfL Wolfsburg). 
Thankfully I ride a german team so there shouldn't be much hiring competition from other big teams. Panduro and Mitrofanov are results of scouting by the way, while the other twos are just simply free riders who were listed and I hired.
Edited by Shonak on 16-08-2013 13:25
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| eple |
Posted on 16-08-2013 20:12
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Shonak wrote:
I consider him my Jack-Of-All-Trades. He is a great domestique nearly everywhere. However there is not much potential left, so I doubt he will ever be a team captain. Maybe a protected rider. He snatched a surprise 2nd place at the UCI World Championship in Doha, however the competition was... weak at best. (3rd season now)
I don't understand that language too well.. but I assume the stats are in the same order as in English? I have an American rider very similar to this. A few less points in resistance, stamina and time trial, but better mountain and (73) hill(76). He's won stages in all grand tours so far and frequently wins breakaways. Dark horse in classics as well, as he rarely gets dropped and can outsprint most but the quickest.
Shonak wrote:
Terente has awesome stats in Hill, but is lacking in many other. He still needs time, however I'm not sure if I keep him. He already demands 11.000/month and he hasn't delivered anything yet at minor races. (in his 2nd season now)
I think you are misusing him if that's the case? Looks like he can be good enough to win all the hilly classics.
Edited by eple on 16-08-2013 20:28
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| eple |
Posted on 16-08-2013 20:21
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By the way, 1 star represent 2 points, unless it's the last, which can be either 1 or 2 points.
So the 3 stars potential your rider has in sprint means he'll reach a minimum of 85  |
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| Shonak |
Posted on 16-08-2013 22:04
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eple wrote:I don't understand that language too well.. but I assume the stats are in the same order as in English? I have an American rider very similar to this. A few less points in resistance, stamina and time trial, but better mountain and (73) hill(76). He's won stages in all grand tours so far and frequently wins breakaways. Dark horse in classics as well, as he rarely gets dropped and can outsprint most but the quickest.
It's german, and yes I'm pretty sure the stats are listed the same. I actually havn't thought of using him as a dark horse until now, but I think he will be surely up to it. I guess I'm really used to him being my first line of defense. He'll be in good shape in Fall, let's see what he can carry home.
I think you are misusing him if that's the case? Looks like he can be good enough to win all the hilly classics.
Yes, I know he should be trained differently. However he needs to increase on other stats first to actually use his incredible "Hill"-Talent, I think. I think stage-rider is the best for such attributes as Regeneration, Stamina and sorts. Of course, I don't understand training that good so feel free to correct me. Is Puncheur better for Flat as stage-rider, because he really needs to improve on flat fast. There wasn't much change at all last season so I decided to just try a couple of months "stage-rider" as a specializiation.
85 sprint points: Sounds excellent. I already prolonged his contract again. Maybe he'll go next year to the Giro. If he wants to equal Cipollini's 43(?) stage wins he must start early.
Edited by Shonak on 16-08-2013 22:08
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| eple |
Posted on 16-08-2013 22:57
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If you train him as a fighter it will give maximum gain in flat.
I have attached a very useful table I saw in a thread on this forum.
I want to beat those records too, but so far I haven't gotten any talent that could do that. Also I suck at sprinting on 'hard', but I'm getting better though.
eple attached the following image:
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| Shonak |
Posted on 17-08-2013 11:55
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Thank you very much, this is very useful indeed.
I sucked at sprinting too but I suppose I'm quite good at it now. Not winning every or even most peloton-sprints but it's enough to keep me playing flat stages (playing on Hard too). You obviously need the right riders. When I was fairly new to the game, I found this tutorial to be helpful. However I'm not sure it will help you.
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| eple |
Posted on 17-08-2013 13:56
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I'm rarely in a position to have that many flat riders, and I don't have the best sprinter in the game either, so that strategy won't work for me. I used to win a fair chunk of the sprints on normal, but I'm figuring out hard difficulty slowly but surly. I usually have one or two flat riders, a sprint lead out and the main sprinter.
Whenever I take charge and lead amongst the sprint trains I get caught on the last 500m, but lately I've tried lying in the slipstream. It's does not get consistent results, as I frequently get blocked, but t does end up in a few wins.
I've relied on van Poppel and Zabel (77&78 in sp, 74 in acceleration) and that might be why I'm struggling, as I'm usually up against the likes of Cavendish, Kittel and Sagan. This year I'm using Poppel and Zabel as leadouts and I've gotten in Swift (81-77) and Demare (80-79) and it's been a very different story, usually ending up top 5 and getting the occasional win. Just finished the Giro and Swift won 2 stages, got two 2nd places and was 6 times in the top 5. Very happy with that! |
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| Shonak |
Posted on 18-08-2013 14:26
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Panduro is now proud winner of a TdF Mountain stage. He also won best young rider (thankfully Kelderman is too old by now ). This is some serious talent development right here.
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| kqyt |
Posted on 24-08-2013 10:11
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When I signed them:
I have found more talents, and these talents have developed a lot.(These pics are from 5th March 2015) Al of them is under 25 years. I have other riders under that age as well, but they aren't really unkown talents
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| nielsboy1998 |
Posted on 02-09-2013 10:49
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In a old savegame found I a talent by a Italian team who as stagiaire big races won. He won in August: World Ports Classic, and in september the Tour of Brittain and 4th at the Worldchampionships. But in 2013, and 2014 he didn't race good results.
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| Sathyro |
Posted on 03-09-2013 14:41
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Is this guy going to be any good? Or at least decent.
[img]https://imgur.com/rKvvb5V[/img]
I dont know if I linked properly the img, but i dont know how to do so, lol. |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 03-09-2013 14:48
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Fixed it for you, you have to click on the image first, then put the link(with IMG's around it ofc)
Yeah, he's going to be good. Around 79-81MO I'd say.
Great downhiller as well.
Edit: Err... what... The pic worked in the preview...
Oh, there it is
Edited by Jesleyh on 03-09-2013 14:50
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| Shonak |
Posted on 10-09-2013 15:29
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So well, well... time for another talent-spamming here.
First off, Oliverio Terente will leave with my team and will join newly UCI WT-Team Super U (formerly Europcar). He had quite a good last season, however I am not truly happy with him. Don't like to race with him as he is usually under the favourites but underperforms in big races. He did celebrate his first victories in this season in small races though so I am sure Super U have made a good signing for the future, especially since he will be captain. Plus, I don't consider him a real "homegrown"-rider as his Hill-stats were back then already impressive. Anyway, he will leave Volkswagen with following stats:
Frank Bauer is a talent I signed last season. He was recommended by my scouts and well, they misjudged him a bit. I think he can turn into a descent domestique but I don't know if I keep him in the long haul. Two german talents I scouted already got cut down because of underwhelming potential so I might just keep him. Fun thing, the rider's name is typcial german and he comes from Bavaria. He is black though. I was quite surprised since this is a name whichis typcial associated with white people. Then again, we live in a multicultural society and I suppose it's possible if, for example, his mother is black and his fafther is white or he has adoptive parents... ah, whatever... Not really much to say about this rider anyway.
Not really one of my talents as Carlos Verona is probably a known rider in these lands. But I am quite satisfied with his performance and development, so I think it's fair to include him. He is riding for me since (about 2014 or 2015), so this was his 3rd season with Volkswagen (2018). He did perform in previous years good, however he was a blast and joy to race at the Vuelta. He managed to win the Mountain Time Trial against the likes of Rolland, Kruijwisk, De Greef or Betancur. Surely there are bigger name in the biz but it's great anyway. He also came in 8th in the end, which is by far his best result. Unfortunately he just fell out by one year (I think) of being included in the U25-rider competition, so I suppose that doesn't even make him a talent anymore.
And now... drumroll please... the upcoming star, the reason why I invested huge amounts of money into scouts and they finally (more or less) payed me back. Volkswagen Scouts all over the place, spying on German Youngster like the freaking NSA. The future hype of german cycling: Tim Alt.
I scouted him back in April I think and signed him for the next season, plus as a trainee in August and there's already a bit of progress to be seen. However, there is still a long road to take. I nearly fell of my chair when I saw his potential anyway. I truly think this is the rider I have waited for. You know, the one that keeps Volkswagen off my back and who want a german cycling legend, more or less. And hopefully Volkswagen just stick long enough with me so that Tim can unfold his potential.
Oh, and a fun thing: I used him right away in the Burgos-Tour (I think) or Eneco Tour. He crashed the first day and fell out for one month. I hope that's not a sign for his career.
Edited by Shonak on 10-09-2013 15:31
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| MacC |
Posted on 10-09-2013 15:43
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Shonak wrote:
So well, well... time for another talent-spamming here.
Frank Bauer is a talent I signed last season. He was recommended by my scouts and well, they misjudged him a bit. I think he can turn into a descent domestique but I don't know if I keep him in the long haul. Two german talents I scouted already got cut down because of underwhelming potential so I might just keep him. Fun thing, the rider's name is typcial german and he comes from Bavaria. He is black though. I was quite surprised since this is a name whichis typcial associated with white people. Then again, we live in a multicultural society and I suppose it's possible if, for example, his mother is black and his fafther is white or he has adoptive parents... ah, whatever... Not really much to say about this rider anyway.
No need to be so PC , the game generates too many black riders. Skin colour can be changed in editor. |
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| fcancellara |
Posted on 10-09-2013 15:47
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I play on 0.5 progress with a custom team, and I scouted some awesome riders at the start of my career. This is a brief description of them on August 1st Season 1:
 Filadelfio Ausoni - 21 years old
75 MO, 72 HIL, 74 TT, 72 PRL.
Absolutely amazing! Already has 8 wins this season.
Has only got a few stars left, his potential is about: 78 MO, 76 HIL, 76 TT and 73 PRL.
 Emanuel Medena - 20 years old
72 MO, 68 HIL, 70 TT, 69 PRL.
Seems like a less talented Ausoni, but has a lot more potential. I'm sure he will reach the 80's on MO, other primary stats will be around 75-79.
Giambattista Constantino - 19 years old
71 MO, 70 HIL, 70 TT, 69 PRL.
Definitely the rider with the most potential. He has tonnes of stars left, will most likely reach the 80's in MO, HIL, TT, PRL, DH and REC, however, he has a poor acceleration stat.
Nilo Cavallon - 22 years old
67 FL, 72 SP, 70 ACC, 62 STA, 64 HIL.
Good sprinter with a lot of potential. Will reach the 80's with SP and ACC, but his secondary stats will not improve much.
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| Shonak |
Posted on 10-09-2013 15:50
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What do you mean by PC?
I didn't know that you can change such things as stature or skin color in the editor (thanks!), but I will keep him this way. It sets him apart from the rest of my squad. I just thought it was funny at first as I was expecting some bavarian white as snow, skinny pant and in his first race I was like "who the hell is that guy... oh!".
Edited by Shonak on 10-09-2013 15:50
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| Blueprint |
Posted on 29-09-2013 19:56
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Meet Damir Nazarbayev, Kazachstan's future Tour de France winner.
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| Selwink |
Posted on 29-09-2013 20:00
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Related to?
https://en.wikiped...Nazarbayev
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| Blueprint |
Posted on 29-09-2013 20:23
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Haha, nice! Must be his grandson then |
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