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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 27-06-2010 17:59
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I got a SMS from a friend asking what the hell was going on at Saxo. At that time, I had no idea, but of course I had to check.
Can't say I'm surprised. Kim Andersen has pretty much been hinting this forever. He didn't deny the rumours a few months ago, and he's continually been saying that he isn't necessarily 'bound' to Team Saxo Bank or Riis.
So, a new Luxembourg Pro Tour team with Kim Andersen as team owner and the Schlecks as captains. Interesting.
I still think that Riis Cycling will continue. Question is what level it will be. It'll still be Pro Tour, but I doubt that it'll be as strong as now.
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Posted on 27-06-2010 18:00
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Waghlon wrote:
So apart from them potentially getting their own UCI-recognized cycling federation which can participate in UCI Rankings and the WC which means De Maar is a genius at some level, itsmichael loses this argument!
Can one lose an argument? One can be proven wrong, but there are no losers. Every party in an argument goes away a little wiser.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 27-06-2010 18:04
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jacknic wrote:
Waghlon wrote:
So apart from them potentially getting their own UCI-recognized cycling federation which can participate in UCI Rankings and the WC which means De Maar is a genius at some level, itsmichael loses this argument!
Can one lose an argument? One can be proven wrong, but there are no losers. Every party in an argument goes away a little wiser.
Except for some people who never learn 
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Posted on 27-06-2010 18:10
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Jalabert says that given that doing the Vuelta is so much better preparation for the Worlds than anything else, he's not selecting anyone who doesn't ride it.
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 27-06-2010 18:17
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CrueTrue wrote:
I got a SMS from a friend asking what the hell was going on at Saxo. At that time, I had no idea, but of course I had to check.
Can't say I'm surprised. Kim Andersen has pretty much been hinting this forever. He didn't deny the rumours a few months ago, and he's continually been saying that he isn't necessarily 'bound' to Team Saxo Bank or Riis.
So, a new Luxembourg Pro Tour team with Kim Andersen as team owner and the Schlecks as captains. Interesting.
I still think that Riis Cycling will continue. Question is what level it will be. It'll still be Pro Tour, but I doubt that it'll be as strong as now.
I, as Jacknic, hope for a Danish-led team. That'd be fun
I also forgot: What's the odds that Scott Sunderland is also involved in Kim Andersen's project? |
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Posted on 27-06-2010 18:23
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Unfortunately Jacob Fuglsang is hinting that he will follow the Schlecks to Kim Andersens new team. That would be a pretty dumb move imo.
Edit: What crue wrote just below.
Edited by jacknic on 27-06-2010 18:26
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 27-06-2010 18:24
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Another thing: Bjarne Riis has commented on it, saying that he can't see a Luxembourg team without the Schlecks. He also says that he's no longer negotiating with them: "We've been talking, but it doesn't seem like we'll reach it (an extension)".
So, expecting a Danish team led by Jakob Fuglsang? Think again. Riis says that he's also likely to leave - probably also for Andersen's team. |
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Posted on 27-06-2010 18:25
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issoisso wrote:
jacknic wrote:
Waghlon wrote:
So apart from them potentially getting their own UCI-recognized cycling federation which can participate in UCI Rankings and the WC which means De Maar is a genius at some level, itsmichael loses this argument!
Can one lose an argument? One can be proven wrong, but there are no losers. Every party in an argument goes away a little wiser.
Except for some people who never learn
Lucky for us those types of people do not exist on pcmdaily
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| issoisso |
Posted on 27-06-2010 18:25
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CrueTrue wrote:
Another thing: Bjarne Riis has commented on it, saying that he can't see a Luxembourg team without the Schlecks. He also says that he's no longer negotiating with them: "We've been talking, but it doesn't seem like we'll reach it (an extension)".
So, expecting a Danish team led by Jakob Fuglsang? Think again. Riis says that he's also likely to leave - probably also for Andersen's team.
Go André Steensen, new team leader!
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| jacknic |
Posted on 27-06-2010 18:26
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Or going for green with Alex Rasmussen?
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| issoisso |
Posted on 27-06-2010 18:36
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CrueTrue wrote:
Another thing: Bjarne Riis has commented on it, saying that he can't see a Luxembourg team without the Schlecks. He also says that he's no longer negotiating with them: "We've been talking, but it doesn't seem like we'll reach it (an extension)".
So, expecting a Danish team led by Jakob Fuglsang? Think again. Riis says that he's also likely to leave - probably also for Andersen's team.
Look on the plus side:
He needs a much smaller sponsor commitment now, to finance the team
(The monster contract he gave Cancellara's still hanging, of course)
Look on the even more positive side: If he sods off it can only be good for clean cycling.
Edited by issoisso on 27-06-2010 18:36
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Posted on 27-06-2010 18:37
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I any case it will be a win win situation for Danish cycling here and now. In the long run I'm not so sure.
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 27-06-2010 18:57
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Look on the bright side, it might become reasonable to cheer for Andy Schleck again...
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 27-06-2010 19:01
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jacknic wrote:
I any case it will be a win win situation for Danish cycling here and now. In the long run I'm not so sure.
If Team Saxo Bank folds, how will this be good for Danish cycling? |
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Posted on 27-06-2010 19:10
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CrueTrue wrote:
jacknic wrote:
I any case it will be a win win situation for Danish cycling here and now. In the long run I'm not so sure.
If Team Saxo Bank folds, how will this be good for Danish cycling?
On short term it will mean that the best Danish riders can maybe find teams where they are not just super-domestiques. In the long run however it will be horrible as Saxo Bank drives the talent developement and assures major exposure in the Danish media.
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Posted on 27-06-2010 19:45
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In other news, although on the same subject, Riis is negotiating intensely with ISS, a Danish Facility Services Group company, according to tv2sport.dk. |
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| Crommy |
Posted on 27-06-2010 22:09
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New Luxembourg team 100% confirmed https://www.cyclin...bourg-team
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| roturn |
Posted on 28-06-2010 10:25
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Jens Voigt for captain for his last year
Obviously Fuglsang will join the Luxembourg team,too. So there won`t be a real danish captain for Riis.
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 28-06-2010 12:13
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Brian Nygaard? The team is doomed.
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 28-06-2010 12:47
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CrueTrue wrote:
In other news, although on the same subject, Riis is negotiating intensely with ISS, a Danish Facility Services Group company, according to tv2sport.dk.
... and apparently also GN ReSound which is the Danish copy of Phonak
"ReSound is part of The GN ReSound Group, one of the world’s largest providers of hearing instruments and diagnostic audiological instrumentation which in turn is part of GN Store Nord"
Correction: The negotiations with ISS have ceased.
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