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Le Tour 09: Stage 15 - Pontarlier - Verbier (SUI)
Guido Mukk
That was great stage..thank good.
 
SportingNonsense
One thing to watch out for now.

All those who were arguing that Lance could win for the tour will now be telling us how he is actually doing really well for somebody of his age.
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schleck93
Yes a very exiting stage, lets hope the rest of the alps will be like this.
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KurtinSC
schleck93 wrote:
About Armstrong, I think he would have lost about 2 minutes if not more, if Klöden hadn't been there he even finished ahead of him at the end.


probably.. he was 1:35 down with Kloden.

Kloden probably saved hime 30 seconds or so. Kloden might have finished with the Nibali group if he had not looked after lance... which probably cost him 30 seconds.

We'll see if today is an aberration or not in future climbs... but I think a top 5 and podium are definitely in reach. The only guys in the top 10 who can time trial better then him are Contador, Wiggins, Kloden and Martin... and he is climbing better than Martin... and Kloden is going to remain a helper even if he is stronger.

It feels like Contador is going to win, with Schleck, Armstrong and Wiggins fighting for the Podium.
 
niconico
Guido Mukk wrote:
That was great stage..thank good.


I don't know. Contador killed it off pretty undramatically. At least we had some action of course, but there was no drama.
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kadel
Really impressing performance by Kirchen today though. Just behind Lance.
 
KurtinSC
Armstrong interview... essentially said he's "missing something he used to have on the top end" and that he's got no real chance to win the tour. Said he's riding for Contador and that things will be a lot less stressful at the dinner table.
 
Biathlon
Astana leads the Team Classification again.
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"What would Lance do?"
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jolly_antunes
KurtinSC wrote:
Armstrong interview... essentially said he's "missing something he used to have on the top end" and that he's got no real chance to win the tour. Said he's riding for Contador and that things will be a lot less stressful at the dinner table.


Age maybe?
 
kadel
maybe Lance is riding without dope.
 
schleck93
KurtinSC wrote:

We'll see if today is an aberration or not in future climbs... but I think a top 5 and podium are definitely in reach. The only guys in the top 10 who can time trial better then him are Contador, Wiggins, Kloden and Martin... and he is climbing better than Martin... and Kloden is going to remain a helper even if he is stronger.

It feels like Contador is going to win, with Schleck, Armstrong and Wiggins fighting for the Podium.


I doubt him on the podium a place between 5-10 is more likely to happend.
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Sherpa
Wiggins --> positive

Where did I see this film before?

Maybe:

Gutierrez --> positive
Armstrong --> positive
Shumacker --> positive
 
niconico
Sherpa wrote:
Wiggins --> positive

Where did I see this film before?

Maybe:

Gutierrez --> positive
Armstrong --> positive
Shumacker --> positive


I'm sorry, but I have to agree. Just seems to good to be true.
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kadel
Wiggins lost 8 kgs. That's why he's a better climber.
 
SportingNonsense
Sherpa wrote:
Wiggins --> positive

Where did I see this film before?

Maybe:

Gutierrez --> positive
Armstrong --> positive
Shumacker --> positive


Werent you gonna quit the forum if Wiggins made Top 3 in Stage 1? He did that but youre still here.
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CrueTrue
Biathlon wrote:
Astana leads the Team Classification again.


Uhm, you can stop bothering too much about it. Astana will lead from now to Paris.
 
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KurtinSC
jolly_antunes wrote:
KurtinSC wrote:
Armstrong interview... essentially said he's "missing something he used to have on the top end" and that he's got no real chance to win the tour. Said he's riding for Contador and that things will be a lot less stressful at the dinner table.


Age maybe?


Possibly... probably even. But this is the first time he's admitted it. Essentially he said that you win the tour by having that "something extra" at the top end, but the only way you can tell if you have it is by riding a stage like this when you are in form. He seems resigned that he doesn't have that... and is pretty comfortable riding for Contador now.
 
Waghlon
Armstrong old? I dont believe you. He's like 27 right? Wink
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KurtinSC
schleck93 wrote:
KurtinSC wrote:

We'll see if today is an aberration or not in future climbs... but I think a top 5 and podium are definitely in reach. The only guys in the top 10 who can time trial better then him are Contador, Wiggins, Kloden and Martin... and he is climbing better than Martin... and Kloden is going to remain a helper even if he is stronger.

It feels like Contador is going to win, with Schleck, Armstrong and Wiggins fighting for the Podium.


I doubt him on the podium a place between 5-10 is more likely to happend.


I think 4th or 5th is most reasonable.

There are few riders in the top 10 that are equal on the time trial. Contador and Wiggins definitely are. Martin is... but he'll lose too much to lance in the mountains for it to matter. Kloden is, but he'll remain a helper to Lance and Contador despite being stronger. Nibali was about equal in the prologue.

Contador is going to win.

Schleck and Wiggins will fight for second and third(if wiggins keeps climbing like today, he'll get it due to the TT).

Then Nibali and Armstrong will be in the 4th- 5th spot.

Frank Schleck and Sastre... too far back to gain enough time on Lance to make up for the minutes they'll lose in the 40km TT.

Evans is too far back and too far out of form. He's not going to climb much better then Armstrong.

Kloden will be used up for Contador before lance and will end up likely losing more time in the mountains.

The rest all climbed worse then Lance did.
 
ruben
Kenny van Hummel survived!!! Finished at 45 minutes Shock after being dropped on the first climb.

Also, if Nibali is 3rd on a mountaintop finish, then I'm going to cry that Gesink isn't here anymore..god f...
 
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