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| doddy13 |
Posted on 08-07-2009 21:22
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Wolfos wrote:
doddy13 wrote:
Tour of Ireland cut to 3 days due to lack of sponsorship.
Even with Armstrong participating? Wasn't Cavendish supposed to race too?
both still are.
There's no point slapping a schleck - Sean Kelly on "Who needs a slap"
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Posted on 08-07-2009 21:24
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doddy13 wrote:
Tour of Ireland cut to 3 days due to lack of sponsorship.
AMAZING. Lance is going to be there and nobody cares. I will move to Ireland. 
No. Thats is sad. And specially when they had Lance. Iam sure many would like to see him on as many stages possible. |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 08-07-2009 23:07
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I know that it's a bit "sad" to start yet another pro/con Armstrong discussion, but this article pretty much sums up why I don't like the guy.
https://www.smh.com.au/news/sport/arms...04480.html
"The Tour was a bit of a joke this year. I've got nothing against Sastre … or Christian Vande Velde. Christian's a nice guy, but finishing fifth in the Tour de France? Come on!"
Sastre says that Armstrong has personally apologized for the above-mentioned comments.
Question: Why say it in the first place then? |
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Posted on 08-07-2009 23:09
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Update to the Tour of Ireland, next year it goes back to 5 stages apparently.
There's no point slapping a schleck - Sean Kelly on "Who needs a slap"
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| issoisso |
Posted on 08-07-2009 23:11
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I don't want to be negative, but when races are suspended for a year or reduced in size, they always say the same thing:
It's just this year
It never is. Ever. ever. ever.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 09-07-2009 08:27
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A decade ago, when Lance Armstrong won the first of his record seven Tour titles, the answer to that question was largely "no."
Doping had rotted cycling to the core. At least 80 percent of riders in the grand tours of France, Spain and Italy were doping, anti-doping scientists in Switzerland now calculate using blood tests from that time. Back then, researchers in Paris who were working on a method to catch one of the most common forms of cheating struggled to find clean samples to try out their new test.
"I had real trouble finding a negative," says Francoise Lasne, the doctor at France's anti-doping agency who conducted that groundbreaking research. "I thought the test wasn't working."
"It's clear that riders have learned to dope within the passport," says Michael Ashenden, one of the nine experts the UCI uses to analyze riders' blood.
Correctly manipulating transfusions and mini-doses of EPO requires a certain amount of know-how but not a PhD.
"I could write it down on a post-it note," Ashenden says.
Nevertheless, the passport is better than anything else science currently offers, and the deterrent factor does appear to be considerable.
One of the most encouraging signs is that some riders are starting to volunteer tips to drug testers about rivals they suspect are still cheating, breaking the code of silence that long prevailed in cycling, says an official directly involved with testing at this year's Tour
Because of the necessary secrecy around drug testing, the official spoke on condition of anonymity. He believes that lesser-paid riders can no longer afford doping programs that are sophisticated enough to evade the passport regime and so are spilling the beans on those they suspect still can.
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Posted on 09-07-2009 10:21
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issoisso wrote:
A decade ago, when Lance Armstrong won the first of his record seven Tour titles, the answer to that question was largely "no."
Doping had rotted cycling to the core. At least 80 percent of riders in the grand tours of France, Spain and Italy were doping, anti-doping scientists in Switzerland now calculate using blood tests from that time. Back then, researchers in Paris who were working on a method to catch one of the most common forms of cheating struggled to find clean samples to try out their new test.
"I had real trouble finding a negative," says Francoise Lasne, the doctor at France's anti-doping agency who conducted that groundbreaking research. "I thought the test wasn't working."
"It's clear that riders have learned to dope within the passport," says Michael Ashenden, one of the nine experts the UCI uses to analyze riders' blood.
Correctly manipulating transfusions and mini-doses of EPO requires a certain amount of know-how but not a PhD.
"I could write it down on a post-it note," Ashenden says.
Nevertheless, the passport is better than anything else science currently offers, and the deterrent factor does appear to be considerable.
One of the most encouraging signs is that some riders are starting to volunteer tips to drug testers about rivals they suspect are still cheating, breaking the code of silence that long prevailed in cycling, says an official directly involved with testing at this year's Tour
Because of the necessary secrecy around drug testing, the official spoke on condition of anonymity. He believes that lesser-paid riders can no longer afford doping programs that are sophisticated enough to evade the passport regime and so are spilling the beans on those they suspect still can.
If you can't beat them break them
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 09-07-2009 12:25
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Comeback for Michael Rasmussen on the 27th of July - he's on the startlist for the world famous Designa Grandprix  |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 09-07-2009 12:29
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With Flaminia or by himself? |
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Posted on 09-07-2009 12:42
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CrueTrue wrote:
Comeback for Michael Rasmussen on the 27th of July - he's on the startlist for the world famous Designa Grandprix
What team? |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 09-07-2009 12:52
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By himself. He still doesn't have a license.
UCI has said that they require that he pays 1 year's salary because he signed the RiÂders' Commitment for a Clean Cycling, c. 700.000 €.
Like any of the other dopers, he's said he won't pay this and is willing to go to CAS to avoid it. |
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 09-07-2009 12:58
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He didn't fail a test, did he? Or am I forgetting something completely obvious? |
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Posted on 09-07-2009 13:00
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CrueTrue wrote:
Designa Grandprix
What style or race is that, it would be hilarious if he got dropped on a long flat course. |
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Posted on 09-07-2009 13:09
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Deadpool: It's in Denmark, so probably dead-flat. He says that there's a hill on it, though. But again, it's Denmark... |
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Posted on 09-07-2009 13:13
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GP Hadsten is in Denmark too and has a 150 m 10% hill on the 400 meter circuit
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Posted on 09-07-2009 15:21
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Just to emphasize Menchov's problem, he's the most tested rider so far in this Tour (with 5 tests). It's only a matter of time... |
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Posted on 09-07-2009 15:23
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CrueTrue wrote:
Just to emphasize Menchov's problem, he's the most tested rider so far in this Tour (with 5 tests). It's only a matter of time...
If he bombs tomorrow I say he's going clean cold turkey |
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Posted on 09-07-2009 15:25
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CrueTrue wrote:
Deadpool: It's in Denmark, so probably dead-flat. He says that there's a hill on it, though. But again, it's Denmark...
Just found the route:
https://translate.google.com/translate...26rls%3Den (translated into English through google, obviously the danes don't need that)
stupidly there is no scale on the elevation map, but its kind of uphill |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 09-07-2009 15:48
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CrueTrue wrote:
Just to emphasize Menchov's problem, he's the most tested rider so far in this Tour (with 5 tests). It's only a matter of time...
I read the same thing. Did wherever you see it mention any other riders?
Because last year several news outlets reported who the most tested riders were.
And since these tests are targeted and based on abnormal blood values ( Namely the "we know you're doping but we can't declare this positive so we'll continue to test the hell out of you" kind of values), it's usually a slam dunk guide to names of people that aren't playing fair.
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Posted on 09-07-2009 15:54
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Nope, it was an article about Menchov and the Vienna case, so it also mentioned Dekker, Rasmussen and Boogerd - but not any TdF riders.
In the article, it was also said that if Menchov was in yellow now, ASO would do the same to Rabobank as they did in the Rasmussen case - force him out. According to the sources, ASO is quite angry at Rabobank for bringing Menchov which according to ASO shows that they haven't learned a thing from 2007. |
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