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| Setzel |
Posted on 21-06-2009 18:59
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Ahhh one big diference between martin and dekker .
Martin will develop well because of bob stapleton and he will make him a star , when dekker will shave evans ass in TdF and he will just become stale , and there are a lot of riders like that Popovich Azevedo and the list can go on !
Edited by Setzel on 21-06-2009 19:02
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| ruben |
Posted on 21-06-2009 19:14
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Who cares, Armstrong wins the Tour
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| Setzel |
Posted on 21-06-2009 19:20
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Ruben wrote:
Who cares, Armstrong wins the Tour
/random comment
Not my fault you cannot take critics , so stop you arrogant style and for your sake try to make a conversation by discusing on it not by speaking what you want when you want 
Edited by Setzel on 21-06-2009 19:20
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| issoisso |
Posted on 21-06-2009 19:49
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Ruben wrote:
Who cares, Armstrong wins the Tour
/random comment
"A brincar, a brincar....."
You're only half joking. And that's because you actually believe he will.
And so do I.
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| ruben |
Posted on 21-06-2009 20:15
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Setzel wrote:
Ruben wrote:
Who cares, Armstrong wins the Tour
/random comment
Not my fault you cannot take critics , so stop you arrogant style and for your sake try to make a conversation by discusing on it not by speaking what you want when you want I'll do what I want, when I want.
And indeed Isso, I believe he actually will win. Armstrong that is. |
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| jacknic |
Posted on 21-06-2009 20:23
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issoisso wrote:
Ruben wrote:
Who cares, Armstrong wins the Tour
/random comment
"A brincar, a brincar....."
You're only half joking. And that's because you actually believe he will.
And so do I.
Take that back! Both of you. |
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Posted on 21-06-2009 20:57
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Conta FTW
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| Sherpa |
Posted on 21-06-2009 22:01
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"Who'll win the 2009 Tour de France?"
I voted for armstrong too. I think I can rely on Basso's recent comments... |
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| Sherpa |
Posted on 22-06-2009 00:36
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 22-06-2009 00:53
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Evans will win the Tour because Armstrong and Contador will be too busy trying to shaft each other....
And as for the Tour of Switzerland, it had better get back to normal next year. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 22-06-2009 07:35
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Sherpa wrote:
No comments
"nTTT - non-Team-Time-Trial"
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| Dan_Grr |
Posted on 22-06-2009 07:59
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Contador will win it with or without help. |
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| Gustavovskiy |
Posted on 22-06-2009 10:01
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p3druh wrote:
Ruben wrote:Well. Thomas is at least again a top time triallist. So everyone who edited his TT stats can now fuck off and crawl away in a corner.
Now he just needs to learn to climb again 
He gained 6 seconds on Chavanel who's hardly a Top TTer. And 1 second on Burghardt.
I mean, I actually like T. Dekker but I really think you are (once more) over hyping the result.
Not to mention the abrasive attitude. But I guess that's something you'll never lose and that we'll have to learn to live with it.
Camon pedro give Ruben a break he ha's hardly had any chances to celebrate this season
Besides in two weeks time you'll have a much more accurate test for Dekker's TT skills...
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| Juan |
Posted on 22-06-2009 12:50
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issoisso wrote:
Ruben wrote:
Who cares, Armstrong wins the Tour
/random comment
"A brincar, a brincar....."
You're only half joking. And that's because you actually believe he will.
And so do I.
Contador has too much self-esteem to let Armstrong win the Tour.
We'll see, but it can be pretty weird to see two GC contenders belonging to a "dream-team" fight each other.
Hope Schleck will take advantage of the situation 
And do not forget that everyone (including you ) thought Basso would win the Giro. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 22-06-2009 13:59
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Juan wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Ruben wrote:
Who cares, Armstrong wins the Tour
/random comment
"A brincar, a brincar....."
You're only half joking. And that's because you actually believe he will.
And so do I.
Contador has too much self-esteem to let Armstrong win the Tour.
We'll see, but it can be pretty weird to see two GC contenders belonging to a "dream-team" fight each other.
Hope Schleck will take advantage of the situation
And do not forget that everyone (including you ) thought Basso would win the Giro.
I said he'd be the most likely to win the Giro. I never said he'd win. Clearly he's not back to top fitness yet. Maybe he will be at the Vuelta.
For the record, I bet on Leipheimer in the GC, hoping his strong team would negate his climbing weakness.
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| Juan |
Posted on 22-06-2009 14:07
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issoisso wrote:
Juan wrote:
issoisso wrote:
Ruben wrote:
Who cares, Armstrong wins the Tour
/random comment
"A brincar, a brincar....."
You're only half joking. And that's because you actually believe he will.
And so do I.
Contador has too much self-esteem to let Armstrong win the Tour.
We'll see, but it can be pretty weird to see two GC contenders belonging to a "dream-team" fight each other.
Hope Schleck will take advantage of the situation
And do not forget that everyone (including you ) thought Basso would win the Giro.
I said he'd be the most likely to win the Giro. I never said he'd win. Clearly he's not back to top fitness yet. Maybe he will be at the Vuelta.
For the record, I bet on Leipheimer in the GC, hoping his strong team would negate his climbing weakness.
That's what I wanted to point out.
"most likely" or "will", it's the same, at least for me.
I could have said "everyone thought Basso was able to win the Giro" |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 22-06-2009 14:14
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............
Therefore follows that X = Y, X being any word at all, and Y being any word at all.
c.q.d.
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| Juan |
Posted on 22-06-2009 14:27
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When debates end like that, always, I just don't want to reply anything
No kind of dialogue possible.
I'm fed up of guys who just use to correct everything, like the guy who said "the Vuelta TT where Chavanel was was only 40 km long instead of 50 km". OK, that's cool, happy for . Now we can maybe have a proper debate, without having to reply for words you said, words you didn't say, words X said, words Y didn't say.
C'mon, guys ! That's just annoying !
You know more than us about cycling, or everything, but we also have our opinion.
So, issoisso, you said Basso was most likely to win the Giro, and everyone is happy. But at the start, I wasn't speaking at all about Basso.
Why do you reply on the Basso part, and not on the Contador-Armstrong part ? |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 22-06-2009 14:39
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Juan wrote:
When debates end like that, always, I just don't want to reply anything
No kind of dialogue possible.
I'm fed up of guys who just use to correct everything, like the guy who said "the Vuelta TT where Chavanel was was only 40 km long instead of 50 km". OK, that's cool, happy for . Now we can maybe have a proper debate, without having to reply for words you said, words you didn't say, words X said, words Y didn't say.
C'mon, guys ! That's just annoying !
I have...no idea what that has to do with my posts above.
Juan wrote:
we also have our opinion.
Of course you do. When did I say you didn't? 
Juan wrote:
So, issoisso, you said Basso was most likely to win the Giro, and everyone is happy. But at the start, I wasn't speaking at all about Basso.
Why do you reply on the Basso part, and not on the Contador-Armstrong part ?
Because I don't have an opinion either way. I have no idea what's going to happen between the two. It would be a bit pointless to add my view when my view is "I don't have one" 
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Posted on 22-06-2009 14:48
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issoisso wrote:
Juan wrote:
When debates end like that, always, I just don't want to reply anything
No kind of dialogue possible.
I'm fed up of guys who just use to correct everything, like the guy who said "the Vuelta TT where Chavanel was was only 40 km long instead of 50 km". OK, that's cool, happy for . Now we can maybe have a proper debate, without having to reply for words you said, words you didn't say, words X said, words Y didn't say.
C'mon, guys ! That's just annoying !
I have...no idea what that has to do with my posts above.
Juan wrote:
we also have our opinion.
Of course you do. When did I say you didn't?
Juan wrote:
So, issoisso, you said Basso was most likely to win the Giro, and everyone is happy. But at the start, I wasn't speaking at all about Basso.
Why do you reply on the Basso part, and not on the Contador-Armstrong part ?
Because I don't have an opinion either way. I have no idea what's going to happen between the two. It would be a bit pointless to add my view when my view is "I don't have one"
First wasn't pointed to you
Second was because sometimes we give our opinion, and it seems like we've said the stupidest thing ever (that's not "really" for you)
Third : ok, you don't have any opinion, and that's quite normal, before a GT
What annoys me is always to be corrected in my posts, when I just didn't say the "exact thing", whereas it was just to point a random fact, here that it's always difficult to predict something before a GT.
Edited by Juan on 22-06-2009 14:49
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