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jacknic
I will be looking forward to following the hearing closely. But as someone else pointed out earlyer. Shouldn't they have a look at Contador as well? Or are they affraid of revealing the Giro winner as a cheater?
 
CrueTrue
My French isn't the best - does this mean that CONI will start a disciplinary case against Valverde?

https://www.lequipe.fr/Cyclisme/breves...verde.html
Edited by CrueTrue on 19-02-2009 18:37
 
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doddy13
i think so, yes.
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mattiasgt
busted. Grin

https://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?i.../feb20news
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Guido Mukk
Indeed
 
wackojackohighcliffe
i agree, it's a farce isn't it stefanPfft
 
Guido Mukk
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
i agree, it's a farce isn't it stefanPfft


Schumacher acting like classic dope user..My meaning was mostly about Piti DNA sample mach
 
CrueTrue
Grin This is great news. Finally!

Not to mention:
"However he suggested that other sportsmen might be summoned to Rome"
"There's another 90 bags of blood and not just those of cyclists."

I love CONI.
 
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wackojackohighcliffe
i know finally some action against other sports.
 
Guido Mukk
That all telling us how smart guy Basso was..take the minimum penalty and you will get off this burden. At least you will get another chanche..now on Valverde will be stupid enough dening everything..
And like Mike already says there is 90 bags left..lets take them all down.
 
Guido Mukk
wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
i know finally some action against other sports.

That is also hugh subject I have been fighting years for now against other stupid estonian forum members ..who think that cycling is one and only doping hole. I am not revenge person..but now I realy hope that wining tennis stars and mostly football players will get also some penaltys.
And hey Isso you can take Valverde name down at your list..give us another one.
Edited by Guido Mukk on 19-02-2009 20:03
 
stuartmcstuart
CrueTrue wrote:
Grin This is great news. Finally!

Not to mention:
"However he suggested that other sportsmen might be summoned to Rome"
"There's another 90 bags of blood and not just those of cyclists."

I love CONI.


Its a shame that other sports will go out their way to protect their 'image'. How many athletes from 'bigger' sports do you actually think will be summoned? I mean, it could happen, but I bet somehow it won't...Frown
 
tomzk111
It really looks like Valverde is gunna get done:
https://www.cyclin...77398.html

doesn't really look like he's got much of a defense if their evidence is to be believed...

A shame 'cus I like Valverde.
 
stuartmcstuart
tomzk111 wrote:
It really looks like Valverde is gunna get done:
https://www.cyclin...77398.html

doesn't really look like he's got much of a defense if their evidence is to be believed...

A shame 'cus I like Valverde.


Same here, but it's been hard to deny he wasn't involved ever since 'valv.piti' became public knowledge.
 
jacknic
stuartmcstuart wrote:
CrueTrue wrote:
Grin This is great news. Finally!

Not to mention:
"However he suggested that other sportsmen might be summoned to Rome"
"There's another 90 bags of blood and not just those of cyclists."

I love CONI.


Its a shame that other sports will go out their way to protect their 'image'. How many athletes from 'bigger' sports do you actually think will be summoned? I mean, it could happen, but I bet somehow it won't...Frown

I bet some will be summoned. And none of the accused will be Italian...
 
Guido Mukk
well italians have so far lost enough "blood"..Ricco, Piepoli, Basso, Mazzoleni etc.
You would like to see more italians also in Puerto case? Fair enough.
But I would like to see first Giro positive test.
 
issoisso
jacknic wrote:
stuartmcstuart wrote:
CrueTrue wrote:
Grin This is great news. Finally!

Not to mention:
"However he suggested that other sportsmen might be summoned to Rome"
"There's another 90 bags of blood and not just those of cyclists."

I love CONI.


Its a shame that other sports will go out their way to protect their 'image'. How many athletes from 'bigger' sports do you actually think will be summoned? I mean, it could happen, but I bet somehow it won't...Frown

I bet some will be summoned. And none of the accused will be Italian...


To be fair, the only italians that seemed to be involved were Basso, Scarponi, Bartoli and maybe Caruso.

The first two were already suspended

As for other nationalities....

En el documento 3 se observan marcados de distinta forma los nombres de los corredores: Dariuz BARANOWSKY; Josefa BELOKI; Ginpaolo CARUSO; Alberto CONTADOR; Allan DAVIS; David ETXEBARRÍA; Igor GONZÁLEZ DE GALDEANO; Roberto HERAS; Jorg JAKSCHE; Isidro NOZAL; Sergio PAULINHO; Nuno RIBEIRO; Luis León SÁNCHEZ; Michele SCARPONI; Marcos SERRANO y Ángel VICIOSO.


En el reverso del documento 31 se localizan unas anotaciones manuscritas con el título “INDIVIDUALIZACIÓN” en el que se identifican a distintos corredores del equipo LIBERTY-SEGUROS WÜRTH por sus iniciales: R. H. (Roberto HERAS), M. S. (Marcos SERRANO), J. B. (Joseba BELOKI), I. G. (Igor GONZÁLEZ), A. V. (Ángel VICIOSO), J. J. (Jorg JAKSCHE), A. D. (Alan DAVIS), L. (sin identificar), A. C. (Alberto CONTADOR) .

The preceding post is ISSO 9001 certified

i.imgur.com/YWVAnoO.jpg

"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
 
CrueTrue
Armstrong confirmed yesterday that he'll be riding the Tour of Ireland. Rather huge news for a small race like that.

And in other news about dopeheads, Bild has managed to get the 70 page long documents about what Jörg Jaksche has said about Operation Puerto when being investigated.

From what I've read so far, nothing new compared to what he's publically said. Basically the same stuff about organized team doping at CSC in 2004, Riis advicing how to avoid doping controls, how to micro manage EPO, etc.
 
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CrueTrue
More doping news, VDB is describing the cycling 90's in a Belgian magazine. As with the Jaksche stories, there's nothing new except that he's quite honest.

E.g., he sounds jealous about not being offered the products that Gewiss used - they were the EPO-pioneers, he says, mentioning Furlan, Berzin and Argenti. He'd have loved to be the first to try out a new product, but he never was. Other riders were offered the new products first.

He also says that doping doesn't really make a difference since the elite is taking the same products anyway. And that he, at a time, was the best since he managed to beat Cassani and Berzin even though they were both 'pumped up' by Ferrari and Cecchini, having a hematocrit value of 60 % while his was only 42. He says himself that that day, that stage win at Mont Faron in 1994 was his best performance ever.

He then goes on to tell about the LBL victory that he got in 1999. He says that he won it 'honestly', saying that he know with 100 % certainty that he didn't use any products that his rivals didn't use. They all used the same and therefore fought on equal terms - and he won, meaning that he was the best. Thereby, he implies that the top riders in LBL 1999 were doped:
1. Franck Vandenbroucke (Belgium) Cofidis 6.25.36
2. Michael Boogerd (Holland) Rabobank
3. Maarten Den Bakker (Holland) Rabobank
4. Michele Bartoli (Italy) Mapei-Quick Step
5. Paolo Bettini (Italy) Mapei-Quick Step

It was a fun read Wink
 
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Xavier
have you got a link to the bild thing?
 
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