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[PCM 2013] French Community Database 2013 [Version 3.0 Available !]
daizenshu
I have just made a revised version of the database. I will translate what I've just wrote on the french forums and I will post it there this evening. Wink
 
Jesleyh
Ah, I saw it at PCMfrance. I think all the bugs are out now, thanks Wink

Also, that Singapore issue.
I think Country ID 1 is not possible. Otherwise Cyanide would've used it for the first country, why would they skip the country ID 1 otherwise and start at 2?

That means that it should get country ID 128.
Though, not sure, but wasn't there a limit on countries? Not sure if that is 127.
If that's so, you should just give the guys from Singapore a similair nationality(e.g. Indonesia)

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Bikex
Jesleyh wrote:
Ah, I saw it at PCMfrance. I think all the bugs are out now, thanks Wink

Also, that Singapore issue.
I think Country ID 1 is not possible. Otherwise Cyanide would've used it for the first country, why would they skip the country ID 1 otherwise and start at 2?

That means that it should get country ID 128.
Though, not sure, but wasn't there a limit on countries? Not sure if that is 127.
If that's so, you should just give the guys from Singapore a similair nationality(e.g. Indonesia)


ID 1 is possible but not 128 Wink
 
YannickArts
I've also found some small mistakes.
A lot of Belgian cyclo-cross riders like Albert and Vanthourenthout are Polish according to the database.
Some riders of Utensilnord have the wrong nationality.
A lot of Moroccan riders have the Mexican nationality.
Furthermore, a lot national champions don't have anything in gene_i_championship_bit, so in-game, they don't wear NC's.

I know you can easily edit this by yourself, but it would be a lot easier if it was correct.
 
daizenshu
Here is the corrective version of the database which is not definitive but which will allow to play with a better comfort!

FCD V1.2
https://www.partag...2.cdb.html

Maillot Tabriz:
https://www.partag...t.rar.html

Fix Tour d'Estonie:
https://www.partag...x.rar.html

FIXED PROBLEMS

- Problems of Unitedhealthcare's riders nationality
- Joaquim Rodriguez Firstname was wrong
- Revised stats for D.Oss, G.Visconti, D.Nerz, T.Van Garderen, T.Van Der Sande, M.Golas, A.Kloden, etc...
- Tabriz Petrochemical shirt was missing
- Wrong nationality for Terengganu Cycling Team
- Some transfers have been made
- Circuito de Getxo's sta_race_rules has been changed

SEMI FIXED PROBLEM

- Tour of Estonia's stage 2 ITT crash
A correction of the stage will be brought by a stagemaker.
But I suggest you replacing the stage which raises problem by this (it's the ITT stage of the Tour of Denmark renamed accordingly)
https://www.partag...x.rar.html
(to place in CM_Stages)
It should allow you could continue the career mode without crash.

NOT FIXED YET (but not a source of crash)
- Problem with riders of Singapore who have sometimes the right flag but also sometimes the Cypriot flag. I think it could be a local.cdb problem but we will try to fix that soon.

VERY IMPORTANT THING

I'm really sorry, I don't have the translation for that but I hope that everybody will understand.

- Tutoriel of Leon40 to modify a career to avoid the bug of the Course de Solidarnosc et des champions olympiques. A real thank to him. While waiting for a definitive solution, I would at the moment ask each to edit their career with PCM Fast Editor.

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By Leon 40 of PCM France forum: For those who want to play GP Industria & Commercio di Prato without crash, at the good date in an already begun career
Rappel : Acces path of your career : C:\Users\Utilisateur\Documents\Pro Cycling Manager 2013\Users\your name\Database\Solo\
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daizenshu
YannickArts wrote:
I've also found some small mistakes.
A lot of Belgian cyclo-cross riders like Albert and Vanthourenthout are Polish according to the database.
Some riders of Utensilnord have the wrong nationality.
A lot of Moroccan riders have the Mexican nationality.
Furthermore, a lot national champions don't have anything in gene_i_championship_bit, so in-game, they don't wear NC's.

I know you can easily edit this by yourself, but it would be a lot easier if it was correct.


Thanks, can you give me all the riders please, I will correct this mistake as soon as possible! Wink
 
Miguel98
Can someone give me an overvier of the stats to see if I use this DB instead of my heavilly modified Daily DB?
 
pzrecon
Jesleyh wrote:
pzrecon wrote:
I've got another problem with a stage. The last stage of the Course Cycliste de Solidarnosc et des Champions Olympiques is just Plouay - Plouay. I tried changing the ID of it in the fast editor to 6494 as previously suggested, but that only fixed it in Stage Race mode, but in Career mode it remains Plouay - Plouay.. It also crashes in career mode when I am attempting to simulate it.. Any help?

You have to edit the career file in My docs/PCM 2013/Users/Your name/Database/Solo/Your DB and then change the ID to 6494 to have effect in your career Wink


Doesn't fix anything :\

Edit: Just saw daizenshu's post, I'll try that.
Edited by pzrecon on 31-07-2013 19:03
 
Jesleyh
Right, I'll give some stat suggestions, can't harm I guess:

- Gerrans is definitely overrated with his 80HI.
Valv & maybe Martin can move up to 80, while Gerrans can move to 77/78
- Mollema & Kreuzinger are better climbers than Henao & Wiggins(Yes, Wiggins even put on some weight, it seems). So either them at 78 MO or Henao & Wiggins to 77MO.
- I'd put Rodriguez at least at level Nibali in climbing, maybe even at Quintana.
- Theo Bos improved in hills, 60HI is too few, 65HI would be correct.
- Bos can drop to 78SP, but a little bit better backup stats, he can actually ride on the road now Pfft
- Kristoff & Sagan can go to 79SP
- Kittel can join Cav at 81SP, and definitely a bit better backup stats than now, since he's waaaaay behind Cav like this, though in RL, he might even be better.
- Pozzato, Leukemans, Flecha, Hushovd, Boom & Eisel are overrated in cobbles. (Maybe also Ballan, but that could be argued, since he was injured). Flecha & Boom just a little bit, others are big-time overrated.
- Roelandts, Langeveld & Sagan are underrated in cobbles
- Boom should be about 77 in Prologues, not 79.
- Santambrogio is a doper and won't get this results again, after his ban, assuming he won't dope again. So waaay lower Pfft
- You're a bit overenthusiastic about Dennis, 77 TT is fine. Meanwhile, Malori can go to 78TT instead.
- Kelderman can go to 75MO instead of 74(Okay, I am a fan, but 17th in Giro while being worker for Gesink and 5th at Romandië deserves 75MO)
- Slagter to 76 instead of 77HI. Same for Paolini.
- Jay Mccarthy is more a puncheur than a sprinter/TTist.
- Costa can go to 77MO, Suisse proves that.

PCT
- Traksel, Verschoor, Di Luca, M.Cardoso, Rebellin, Ershov, Haussler(SP) & Van Dijk are overrated.
CT
- Slik(Sprinting), Teunissen, Zepuntke, Sentjens, Pachecho Torres, Rincon Diaz, Pedraza, Haga(TT mainly), slightly Trussov, Nathan Brown(Climbing), JJ Haedo, Palma, Aleman, Mizourov, Kal, Edgar Pinto, Marque Porto, Dex Groen, N. English, A.Phelan, Ariesen, B.Sulzberger(SP), S.Ribeiro(a lot), Manan, Baliani(little bit), Nateghi, Lovassy, Nishitani, Eeckhout, Shilov & Shiplevsky are all overrated. (And a lot more, but can't list them all Wink)
- Diniz & Diaz are very overrated, San Luis is only an important race for South-Americans, that's why they did good, they peaked for it.
- Leaders of smaller CT teams have to be checked, most are too good.
- Dries Hollanders(Metec) is Flemish, not Dutch.
- Jasper Bovenhuis is a climber/stage-racer, not a sprinter, he can sprint a little bit in small mountain groups, not more.
- Nick van der Lijke is more a puncher than a sprinter. He's great on hilly sprints though.
- Asselman is better on hills and less on sprint(still a sprinter, but best on hilly profiles)
- Ronan van Zandbeek should get a massive boost. He's a beast on the flat(71/72), attacks a lot(74 I'd say) and is good on cobbles(66/67).
- Stan Godrie is better on the cobbles, say, 66
- Van Baarle can be lowered a little bit on sprint(71SP/72ACC f.e.), but should get better RES & STA, he's a beast.
- Wippert can take a small drop in SP.
- Stroetinga drop to 72SP, Chaigneau to 71.
- A lot of sprinters have 60HI while they deserve higher. Enger being a great example for that, he deserves 70 HI.
- Valgren Andersen can have 71/72HI. At least if Stuyven gets 73HI, Valgren isn't worse more than 1 HI than Stuyven.
- Groenewegen and Reinders are some of the Netherlands' finest talents, and some big talents too! Definitely worth 6 potential.

Feel free to double check this on cycling sites like procyclingstats.com. Those are just suggestions, but I think they're right. Wink

Most important:
Potentials need to be fixed.
7 potential should be reserves for talents like: Herklotz, Ewan, Jungels, Aru, Kelderman, Kwiatkowski(if he's not too good already), Phinney(if he's not too good already), Enger, maybe Lutsenko, Van Baarle & Dombrowski.
Not for guys like Contador & Cavendish, talents need 7 potential to develop. If top-guys get 7 potential, they will develop even more.


Hope that helps Wink
Edited by Jesleyh on 31-07-2013 19:07
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lollo859
when the final version will be released on db?
 
valverde321
Jesleyh wrote:
stats


Gerrans sprint should be upped too. I think he's proven now, that he's a quick sprinter as well. Look at all his results, beating sprinters.

Wiggins needs to be dropped a lot, he's never going to be a strong climber again. I'd say 74 for him.

I would put Bos down even more than just 78. I'd like to see a result where he deserves a stat even as high as that? I have him at 76/77 I think.

Kristoff and Sagan should stay at 78 imo. The hill stats, and everything else will usually mean they are more fresh for sprints anyway, but I think testing it at 79 to see what happens would be the best solution, because if they were traditional sprinters I'd probably give them that, but we know how PCM works....

Agree on Kittel, but Cav 1 more ACC


About Santambrogio (and all other dopers): lower their stats Wink

Agree about Rohan Dennis too, Even his climbing is a little high Wink

David Veilleux: Needs a boost in cobbles. First time riding Paris-Roubaix and he finished 25th Wink I think he was at 60, I'd probably put him up to 69/70/71

Potentials: need to be fixed a bit. I know a few really promising riders and saw them on 2 potential.

I also mentioned it before, but Parra Bustamente needs to be improved massively. Going off of results, he probably deserves to be 1 or 2 mountain stats lower than Herklotz, but he's at a 60 right now.
 
Jesleyh
valverde321 wrote:
Jesleyh wrote:
stats

more stats

I agree with you on Gerrans.

Wiggins dropped, yes. 74 is too risky IMO though, I think he will still be okay-ish.

Bos 78 is okay. His backup stats are bad anyway. Bos is actually one of the fastest guys on the world, and was stronger than 78+ Sprinters a lot of times this season, but can't really get over hills like f.e Greipel and (and this hurts to say), the Belkin leadout fails to deliver in quite some occasions. He doesn't really have the REC for Grand Tours, and possibly won't survive even the first mountain stage. That's why you don't see him in Grand Tours.

Kristoff & Sagan are better on flat stages(too) than Modolo, Guardini, Viviani, Goss, who are on 78. So 79 seems deserved.

I agree with the rest of your post Wink
Edited by Jesleyh on 31-07-2013 20:11
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lollo859
jesleyh:when the final version will be released on db?
 
Jesleyh
lollo859 wrote:
jesleyh:when the final version will be released on db?

I'm not a DB maker, I just put up some suggestions Wink

Médé said September I think. I'm sure it'll be after the last patch.
But this version seems good, no need to wait for the last version to start a career.
Edited by Jesleyh on 31-07-2013 19:49
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lollo859
give me a help I wing version 1.1 of the db updated with national standards but tour of Estonia and the stage 2 crash fix it downloaded but nothing like I do?

sorry for my english i am Italian
 
Miguel98
Thanks Valv for the .cdb. I'll work on stats till later tonight.
 
Jesleyh
lollo859 wrote:
give me a help I wing version 1.1 of the db updated with national standards but tour of Estonia and the stage 2 crash fix it downloaded but nothing like I do?

sorry for my english i am Italian

You have to place the file inside estonia_fix.rar in (...)/Pro Cycling Manager - Saison/Season/... 2013/CM_Stages.
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lollo859
but you could you do me a db with the national champions to date? I put the most important

sorry for my english i am Italian
 
SvenDLier
does this mean you have to restart your carreer with the 1.2 DB? Or do you have to rename it?
 
Jesleyh
lollo859 wrote:
but you could you do me a db with the national champions to date? I put the most important

sorry for my english i am Italian

Well, you can do that yourself.
Just go this Wikipedia page:
https://en.wikiped...mpionships

Then use the editor that comes with PCM(when you click pcm.exe, instead of play click at DB editor) and you can easily assign the new champions.
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