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| aymen |
Posted on 29-08-2012 16:59
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Wtf i think this vuelta is only shit in time trial i have noticed that in the first TTT but now fromme take 22 seconde to contador when he have 39 100 metres before(i think they cheated to a moment they see that is too far) and i think purito was giving 3 seconde at the finish now they say they are in the same time. Hope Froome will crucify contador in the climbs even if he is fatigued with his Tour(The proof that he didn't take product)
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| CountArach |
Posted on 29-08-2012 17:02
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aymen wrote:
Wtf i think this vuelta is only shit in time trial i have noticed that in the first TTT but now fromme take 22 seconde to contador when he have 39 100 metres before(i think they cheated to a moment they see that is too far) and i think purito was giving 3 seconde at the finish now they say they are in the same time. Hope Froome will crucify contador in the climbs even if he is fatigued with his Tour(The proof that he didn't take product)
I'm sorry but Froome has been the weakest of the top 3 guys in the climbs so far, and if he were to go on to win it in the mountains, it would be substantial evidence that he is doping.
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| kumazan |
Posted on 29-08-2012 17:05
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There was only one mountain so far, and it was pretty short. Not much conclussions can be drawn from that. But Froome does look like he is fading, you can't be on form forever, I guess.
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| ste_18 |
Posted on 29-08-2012 17:09
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CountArach wrote:
aymen wrote:
Wtf i think this vuelta is only shit in time trial i have noticed that in the first TTT but now fromme take 22 seconde to contador when he have 39 100 metres before(i think they cheated to a moment they see that is too far) and i think purito was giving 3 seconde at the finish now they say they are in the same time. Hope Froome will crucify contador in the climbs even if he is fatigued with his Tour(The proof that he didn't take product)
I'm sorry but Froome has been the weakest of the top 3 guys in the climbs so far, and if he were to go on to win it in the mountains, it would be substantial evidence that he is doping.
A correction he loose time only in one stage when he attack too many times though it's a bit unreal that one do Tour and Vuelta with the same optimal condition |
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| aymen |
Posted on 29-08-2012 17:09
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And it's more good for puncher |
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 29-08-2012 17:10
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aymen wrote:
Wtf i think this vuelta is only shit in time trial i have noticed that in the first TTT but now fromme take 22 seconde to contador when he have 39 100 metres before(i think they cheated to a moment they see that is too far) and i think purito was giving 3 seconde at the finish now they say they are in the same time. Hope Froome will crucify contador in the climbs even if he is fatigued with his Tour(The proof that he didn't take product)
ermm... no.... Froome is the weakest of the Top 4 at least, i think Gesink might also be stronger.
Valverde would be ahead if not for that crash. Purito and Contador are looking much better on the climbs. Gesink i hvnt seen too much, but he is still upright and thus has a great chance. No-one really knows how good he is over 3 weeks.
Froome raced the TDF, you cant do 2 GT's these days. Even Contador couldnt... If anything its more proof if he top5's
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 29-08-2012 17:18
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This TT sure made the Vuelta even more exciting!
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| issoisso |
Posted on 29-08-2012 17:38
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I'm delighted to see that my prediction (Purito narrowly losing the jersey today, getting it back tomorrow) was wrong 
Excuse me while I go find what Andy_Schleck's twitter account is so I can tweet to him "Seen the Vuelta? This is what happens when you actually work hard at improving your TT you lazyass"
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Purito will win this Vuelta. Then, he'll spend the prize money, and a good part of his wage, in building a 100m statue of Javier Guillén in his home town.
No chance. He'll lose time in the real mountains, starting saturday
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| kumazan |
Posted on 29-08-2012 17:42
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issoisso wrote:
"Seen the Vuelta? This is what happens when you actually work hard at improving your TT you lazyass"
Andrew wouldn't have lost much in this pathetic excuse of a TT. Not even Moreno did.
issoisso wrote:
kumazan wrote:
Purito will win this Vuelta. Then, he'll spend the prize money, and a good part of his wage, in building a 100m statue of Javier Guillén in his home town.
No chance. He'll lose time in the real mountains, starting saturday
What real mountains? Ancares, which isn't climbed to the top to avoid proper time gaps? Cuitu Negru, which will be reduced to 3 insanely steep kms, like Bola del Mundo? He has a great chance, all thanks to Unipublic's craptastic parcours.
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| pcm2009fan |
Posted on 29-08-2012 17:56
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I think the parcours have been great so far given that the vuelta can't benefit from the high Alpine passes. Anyway, put a ton of flat time-trialing in and people start to complain because true climbers can't win any GTs.
I'm hoping that the excitement will continue, especially atop the Bola del Mundo. And I think Purito will continue to hang in there but crack on one of the remaining MTFs and lose to Contador. |
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 29-08-2012 18:30
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The one time I bet my PCM money on him, Froome kinda fails. Fast everyone, give me all your PCM money so we can stop Froome winning La Vuelta 
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| issoisso |
Posted on 29-08-2012 18:38
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kumazan wrote:
issoisso wrote:
"Seen the Vuelta? This is what happens when you actually work hard at improving your TT you lazyass"
Andrew wouldn't have lost much in this pathetic excuse of a TT. Not even Moreno did.
With that descent? He'd lose oodles
kumazan wrote:
issoisso wrote:
kumazan wrote:
Purito will win this Vuelta. Then, he'll spend the prize money, and a good part of his wage, in building a 100m statue of Javier Guillén in his home town.
No chance. He'll lose time in the real mountains, starting saturday
What real mountains? Ancares, which isn't climbed to the top to avoid proper time gaps? Cuitu Negru, which will be reduced to 3 insanely steep kms, like Bola del Mundo? He has a great chance, all thanks to Unipublic's craptastic parcours.
You're always this negative. I'll be accepting your apology in a week and a half 
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I think the parcours have been great so far given that the vuelta can't benefit from the high Alpine passes.
They have more than enough mountains, and there's the Pyrenees
Edited by issoisso on 29-08-2012 18:39
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 29-08-2012 18:43
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kumazan wrote:
issoisso wrote:
"Seen the Vuelta? This is what happens when you actually work hard at improving your TT you lazyass"
Andrew wouldn't have lost much in this pathetic excuse of a TT. Not even Moreno did.
The point was about improving TT capacity from before though, and if you compare Purito's level from 2010 to his current level against Andy's 2010 level to his current level, I think it's safe to say that Purito wins. The difference being that he actually has improved, rather than just bragged about it.
Edited by Pellizotti2 on 29-08-2012 18:43
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| aymen |
Posted on 29-08-2012 18:46
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By the way froome just loose 4 seconds to contador in the descent(maybe more and he take some in the flat but i think froome is trying to not be in the red that way he could stand three weeks ,Look at Vdb he is completely exhausted,)without forgetting the fact that contador have recognized the stage eight times, tough i think the time trial isn't a high level with cancellara or wiggins(or martin and froome in top froome) it will be at least 1min 30 less |
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| Neilstrong |
Posted on 29-08-2012 18:54
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aymen wrote:
By the way froome just loose 4 seconds to contador in the descent(maybe more and he take some in the flat but i think froome is trying to not be in the red that way he could stand three weeks ,Look at Vdb he is completely exhausted,)without forgetting the fact that contador have recognized the stage eight times, tough i think the time trial isn't a high level with cancellara or wiggins(or martin and froome in top froome) it will be at least 1min 30 less
Froome Fanboy?
The timetrial was Froomes biggest chance of taking serious time on Rodriguez. He rode it at 100% be sure of that. No holding back
I think Contador will win it. Rodriguez will crack on the very last mountain |
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| kumazan |
Posted on 29-08-2012 18:54
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issoisso wrote:
You're always this negative. I'll be accepting your apology in a week and a half
Even if the rest of the Vuelta is mindblowingly awesome, there won't be any apology, because I'm stubborn as hell. But I'm safe, because I hadn't seen a worse parcours for a 3 week race since... ever.
Edit: And I'm not "always" this negative. I wasn't negative about the parcours of the Giro, even if it was far from perfect, and I possibly was in the very exclusive group of about 1 person who defended the parcours of the Tour. This crap just is unexcusable.
Pellizotti2 wrote:
kumazan wrote:
issoisso wrote:
"Seen the Vuelta? This is what happens when you actually work hard at improving your TT you lazyass"
Andrew wouldn't have lost much in this pathetic excuse of a TT. Not even Moreno did.
The point was about improving TT capacity from before though, and if you compare Purito's level from 2010 to his current level against Andy's 2010 level to his current level, I think it's safe to say that Purito wins. The difference being that he actually has improved, rather than just bragged about it.
I know. I just wanted to make a point about how a TT like this can't be the only ITT of a 3 week race.
Edited by kumazan on 29-08-2012 18:57
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| Trout80 |
Posted on 29-08-2012 19:06
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kumazan wrote:
I know. I just wanted to make a point about how a TT like this can't be the only ITT of a 3 week race.
I think it is good that Vuelta has only one ITT. It makes this much more even and interesting. I think TDF was over on first real ITT because Wiggins was so good on it.
Now we have four drivers who has every possibility to win. And could it be that Rodriguez will win Vuelta? |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 29-08-2012 20:02
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aymen wrote:
Hope Froome will crucify contador in the climbs even if he is fatigued with his Tour(The proof that he didn't take product)
Have you found the key to proving something didn't or doesn't exist ?
Because if so, this is a revolution to philosophy. Please explain us.  |
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 29-08-2012 20:16
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Aquarius wrote:
aymen wrote:
Hope Froome will crucify contador in the climbs even if he is fatigued with his Tour(The proof that he didn't take product)
Have you found the key to proving something didn't or doesn't exist ?
Because if so, this is a revolution to philosophy. Please explain us.
You're clearly just a French Froome-hater. Obviously that's why you can't see the logic in aymen's statement.
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| Strydz |
Posted on 29-08-2012 20:35
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Amazed by Purito today, this has to be his best chance to pull of a GT
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