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Tour de France 2012: Pre-Race thread
Ian Butler
Guido Mukk wrote:
I am back on earth..
Andy boy is out of tour ..what a drama year for Leopard Trek. This all can not be accident anymore.
Some conspiracy theory?


Yes, I think JB killed Michael Jackson and JFK, now he's aiming at Andy Schleck.
 
Mr_Monk
Guido Mukk wrote:
I am back on earth..
Andy boy is out of tour ..what a drama year for Leopard Trek. This all can not be accident anymore.
Some conspiracy theory?


You mean Radioshack? Wink
 
Ian Butler
RadioShack mightn't even appear at TDF.
What team would take their place in case they couldn't go, a French procont team, probably?
 
jph27
Ian Butler wrote:
RadioShack mightn't even appear at TDF.
What team would take their place in case they couldn't go, a French procont team, probably?


Bretagne-Schuller or Team Type 1, probably.
 
EdvaldBoassonHagen
I don't want Wiggins to win the Tour because he has a disguting style of racing. He always waits for the time trial. Did he ever make an attack in a mountain stage ? By the way , the tour lose Contador and Schleck ?! Okay then rename it the tour of the wheel's suckers. Nibali is my favourite to anime this race who will be boring indeed.
 
wackojackohighcliffe
EdvaldBoassonHagen wrote:
I don't want Wiggins to win the Tour because he has a disguting style of racing. He always waits for the time trial. Did he ever make an attack in a mountain stage ? By the way , the tour lose Contador and Schleck ?! Okay then rename it the tour of the wheel's suckers. Nibali is my favourite to anime this race who will be boring indeed.


I'm not a fan of his style but it would be stupid of him to do anything else. He is a superior time-triallist but he doesn't have the acceleration to attack big in the mountains - so why would he?

Normally I'd want an attacking rider to win the Tour but a) there basically aren't any and b) it would be fantastic for cycling in Britain if Wiggins won.

The onus isn't on Wiggins to attack - it's on the others. Maybe it's them you should worry about.
 
Abelbaba
mayby the 'lesser' riders make the tour interesting..
 
wackojackohighcliffe
Abelbaba wrote:
mayby the 'lesser' riders make the tour interesting..


That's what I'm hoping...often fuck all makes the Tour interesting.
 
Ian Butler
It's impossible to say in advance whether a race will be boring or not. Like Abelbaba says, maybe other riders will see opportunities to get somewhere, I'm thinking about a Rolland, Voeckler...
 
Montolivo
The race could be boring, but look at the Giro which everybody thought would be great, but infact were epicly boring for a Giro.
 
Abelbaba
I just hope there will be lot's of breaks and action by the less experienced, can by 'mistakes'but like what wackojack... wrote, that will be fun to see
 
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I hope riders like Nibali,Sanchez(if he recover from the bad crash during the Dauphine),VdB,Menchov .. Valverde if you want,to make the race more interesting than i expect.
 
EdvaldBoassonHagen
iNSUPERABLE wrote:
I hope riders like Nibali,Sanchez(if he recover from the bad crash during the Dauphine),VdB,Menchov .. Valverde if you want,to make the race more interesting than i expect.


Nibali indeed. But Sanchez is limited in time trial , VdB and Menchov is in the favourites at every edition and they didn't justify this status. It seems to be too early for Valverde : i was expected him for The Ardennaises and he don't do well like Gilbert. I think this year is the worst in cycling history in terms of interest. I hope Frank Schleck will make the move , he seems to be the best in mountain. I expect Wiggins to be out of the podium. Sorry for Great BritainPfft
 
Ian Butler
EdvaldBoassonHagen wrote:
iNSUPERABLE wrote:
I hope riders like Nibali,Sanchez(if he recover from the bad crash during the Dauphine),VdB,Menchov .. Valverde if you want,to make the race more interesting than i expect.


Nibali indeed. But Sanchez is limited in time trial , VdB and Menchov is in the favourites at every edition and they didn't justify this status. It seems to be too early for Valverde : i was expected him for The Ardennaises and he don't do well like Gilbert. I think this year is the worst in cycling history in terms of interest. I hope Frank Schleck will make the move , he seems to be the best in mountain. I expect Wiggins to be out of the podium. Sorry for Great BritainPfft


Well, let's hope Frank can ride TDF, then!
 
kumazan
EdvaldBoassonHagen wrote:
But Sanchez is limited in time trial


No, he isn't. And he's really good in 3rd week TTs.
 
EdvaldBoassonHagen
Ian Butler wrote:
EdvaldBoassonHagen wrote:
iNSUPERABLE wrote:
I hope riders like Nibali,Sanchez(if he recover from the bad crash during the Dauphine),VdB,Menchov .. Valverde if you want,to make the race more interesting than i expect.


Nibali indeed. But Sanchez is limited in time trial , VdB and Menchov is in the favourites at every edition and they didn't justify this status. It seems to be too early for Valverde : i was expected him for The Ardennaises and he don't do well like Gilbert. I think this year is the worst in cycling history in terms of interest. I hope Frank Schleck will make the move , he seems to be the best in mountain. I expect Wiggins to be out of the podium. Sorry for Great BritainPfft


Well, let's hope Frank can ride TDF, then!


Personnally i will go for Fuglsang as leader of Radioshack.
 
Ian Butler
EdvaldBoassonHagen wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
EdvaldBoassonHagen wrote:
iNSUPERABLE wrote:
I hope riders like Nibali,Sanchez(if he recover from the bad crash during the Dauphine),VdB,Menchov .. Valverde if you want,to make the race more interesting than i expect.


Nibali indeed. But Sanchez is limited in time trial , VdB and Menchov is in the favourites at every edition and they didn't justify this status. It seems to be too early for Valverde : i was expected him for The Ardennaises and he don't do well like Gilbert. I think this year is the worst in cycling history in terms of interest. I hope Frank Schleck will make the move , he seems to be the best in mountain. I expect Wiggins to be out of the podium. Sorry for Great BritainPfft


Well, let's hope Frank can ride TDF, then!


Personnally i will go for Fuglsang as leader of Radioshack.


I was actually talking about whether RadioShack can go to TDF,
in the topic News In June, there's talk about RadioShack not going to TDF, they might be excluded because of the doping investigation, JB etc.
So I hope they can go, and if they go, I'd like to see what Fuglsang can do, but I think Frank could do better, GC-wise.
 
EdvaldBoassonHagen
Ian Butler wrote:
EdvaldBoassonHagen wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
EdvaldBoassonHagen wrote:
iNSUPERABLE wrote:
I hope riders like Nibali,Sanchez(if he recover from the bad crash during the Dauphine),VdB,Menchov .. Valverde if you want,to make the race more interesting than i expect.


Nibali indeed. But Sanchez is limited in time trial , VdB and Menchov is in the favourites at every edition and they didn't justify this status. It seems to be too early for Valverde : i was expected him for The Ardennaises and he don't do well like Gilbert. I think this year is the worst in cycling history in terms of interest. I hope Frank Schleck will make the move , he seems to be the best in mountain. I expect Wiggins to be out of the podium. Sorry for Great BritainPfft


Well, let's hope Frank can ride TDF, then!


Personnally i will go for Fuglsang as leader of Radioshack.


I was actually talking about whether RadioShack can go to TDF,
in the topic News In June, there's talk about RadioShack not going to TDF, they might be excluded because of the doping investigation, JB etc.
So I hope they can go, and if they go, I'd like to see what Fuglsang can do, but I think Frank could do better, GC-wise.


They have too many potential leaders
 
Geezar10
EdvaldBoassonHagen wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
EdvaldBoassonHagen wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
EdvaldBoassonHagen wrote:
iNSUPERABLE wrote:
I hope riders like Nibali,Sanchez(if he recover from the bad crash during the Dauphine),VdB,Menchov .. Valverde if you want,to make the race more interesting than i expect.


Nibali indeed. But Sanchez is limited in time trial , VdB and Menchov is in the favourites at every edition and they didn't justify this status. It seems to be too early for Valverde : i was expected him for The Ardennaises and he don't do well like Gilbert. I think this year is the worst in cycling history in terms of interest. I hope Frank Schleck will make the move , he seems to be the best in mountain. I expect Wiggins to be out of the podium. Sorry for Great BritainPfft


Well, let's hope Frank can ride TDF, then!


Personnally i will go for Fuglsang as leader of Radioshack.


I was actually talking about whether RadioShack can go to TDF,
in the topic News In June, there's talk about RadioShack not going to TDF, they might be excluded because of the doping investigation, JB etc.
So I hope they can go, and if they go, I'd like to see what Fuglsang can do, but I think Frank could do better, GC-wise.


They have too many potential leaders


I can't see Frank doing much with all the time trialing really and i think it'll be a battle between Cadel and Bradley
 
ianrussell
Errrr...ok I know I'm way way off the pace (extreme satellite delay blamed on the demands of 2 small children) but having just been randomly bought the official Tour programme and having a quick flick through I'm counting only 3 mountain finishes of which all are cat 1 not HC climbs Shock

I know this is old news for 99% of you and this isn't the Giro or Vuelta but still, couldn't be more Wiggins and Evans friendly if it tried. Of course so many things can still go wrong but I was very belatedly shocked and needed somewhere to air it so...
 
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