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One Healthy Story...UnitedHealthCare 2013
dienblad
Pretty dull Tirreno.... 25 riders within 16 seconds, the race being won because of bonus seconds, no decisive stages... Could be the Volta a Catalunya Smile

But baia, you did a good job, with the KOTM-jersey and 7th in the GC!
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Pellizotti2
dienblad wrote:
Pretty dull Tirreno.... 25 riders within 16 seconds, the race being won because of bonus seconds, no decisive stages... Could be the Volta a Catalunya Smile

But baia, you did a good job, with the KOTM-jersey and 7th in the GC!

It's because that variant is way too easy. No stages where gaps can appear.

And agreed - nice job baia! Smile
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TomC
Good ride in Italy and KoM jersey for Barton, well done Wink
 
sutty68
7th place overall for Finetto Wink

And the Mountains Classification for Barton Wink

It was a good race for the UHC boys then Smile
 
baia
Thank you dienblad, Pellizotti2, TomC and sutty68Grin
Indeed strange and somehow boring TirrenoFrown ... we tried to do something good here, UnitedHealthCare is happy...Grin


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STARTLIST

Spoiler
Sky
1. T.Farrar
2. E.Boasson Hagen
3. M.Cavendish
4. C.Froome
5. S.Gerrans
6. R.Taaramäe
7. G.Thomas
8. R.Urán
Garmin
11. H.Haussler
12. P.Fédrigo
13. M.Maaskant
14. D.Millar
15. P.Sagan
16. C.Vande Velde
17. S.Vanmarcke
18. J.Vansummeren
GreenEdge
21. M.Goss
22. F.Beppu
23. A.Davis
24. N.Haas
25. S.Langeveld
26. S.O'Grady
27. M.Rogers
28. T.Vaitkus
Lotto
31. A.Greipel
32. J.Ghyselinck
33. G.Henderson
34. S.Pauwels
35. V.Reynès
36. K.Siutsou
37. J.Vanendert
38. D.Vanendert
Lampre
41. A.Petacchi
42. G.Bole
43. D.Cunego
44. D.Napolitano
45. D.Pietropolli
46. M.Possoni
47. D.Righi
48. S.Stortoni
BMC
51. T.Hushovd
52. A.Ballan
53. B.Bookwalter
54. C.Evans
55. P.Gilbert
56. G.Hincapie
57. B.Leukemans
58. T.Van Garderen
Omega Pharma
61. G.Steegmans
62. M.Bandiera
63. C.Betancourt
64. S.Chavanel
65. T.Martin
66. N.Terpstra
67. M.Trentin
68. A.Valverde
Katusha
71. D.Galimzyanov
72. J.A.Flecha
73. Ó.Freire
74. V.Gusev
75. A.Kuschynski
76. D.Menchov
77. L.Paolini
78. J.Rodríguez
RadioShack
81. F.Cancellara
82. L.Bak
83. J.Fuglsang
84. L.Gerdemann
85. C.Horner
86. M.Monfort
87. Y.Popovych
88. F.Schleck
Movistar
91. F.J.Ventoso
92. M.Bruseghin
93. R.Costa
94. A.Galdos
95. J.Herrada
96. V.Karpets
97. I.Konovalovas
98. G.Visconti
Rabobank
101. T.Bos
102. L.Boom
103. R.Gesink
104. P.Martens
105. L.L.Sánchez
106. L.Ten Dam
107. M.Tjallingii
108. M.Wynants
Acqua & Sapone
111. G.Nizzolo
112. D.Bonuccelli
113. L.Celli
114. P.Ciavatta
115. F.Gilioli
116. V.Miholjevic
117. A.Proni
118. F.Taborre
Liquigas
121. E.Viviani
122. V.Agnoli
123. F.Canuti
124. M.Da Dalto
125. R.Hesjedal
126. P.Longo Borghini
127. V.Nibali
128. A.Vanotti
Astana
131. M.Cardoso
132. E.Gasparotto
133. F.Gavazzi
134. J.Guarnieri
135. A.Kolobnev
136. T.Machado
137. F.Masciarelli
138. S.Ponzi
UnitedHealthcare
141. M.Belletti
142. M.Finetto
143. C.B.Huff
144. J.Keough
145. F.Rodriguez
146. N.Sanderson
147. W.Stroetinga
148. B.Van Poppel
AG2R La Mondiale
151. S.Hinault
152. J.Bérard
153. M.Chérel
154. M.Elmiger
155. L.Mondory
156. M.Montaguti
157. N.Roche
158. B.Shpilevsky
Saxo Bank
161. N.Nuyens
162. M.Boaro
163. P.Clausen
164. A.Contador
165. L.S.Haedo
166. D.Navarro
167. J.M.Soler
168. M.Tosatto
Euskaltel
171. T.Voeckler
172. I.Antón
173. P.Bilbao
174. P.Cazaux
175. J.J.Oroz
176. R.Pérez
177. A.Pérez Arrieta
178. R.Sicard
Accent Jobs
181. S.Scheirlinckx
182. O.Chuzhda
183. T.De Gendt
184. B.De Waele
185. S.De Wilde
186. L.Hoste
187. T.Slagter
188. J.Vanlandschoot
Farnese Vini
191. L.Mazzanti
192. R.Andriato
193. L.Ascani
194. A.Balloni
195. T.Bertolini
196. D.Caccia
197. R.De Patre
198. F.Tizza
Androni Giocattoli
201. G.Ermeti
202. R.Chiarini
203. A.De Marchi
204. T.Gil
205. S.Mancuso
206. F.J.Moreno
207. C.J.Ochoa
208. J.Serpa
Colnago
211. A.Pasqualon
212. M.Canola
213. M.Coledan
214. F.Negri
215. A.Piechele
216. S.Pirazzi
217. D.Pozzovivo
218. F.Savini


2012 WINNER

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UnitedHealthCare Squad

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Race

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219kms.... i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/baia74/Flags/USA.pngJ.Keough goes with the break ( 13 riders )....


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Breakaway reach the top of "Passo del Turchino"..... 6´12"gap...


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112kms... i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/baia74/Flags/NED.pngW.Stroetinga and i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/baia74/Flags/FRA.pngP.Fédrigo attacked... 3´52"gap to peloton, 2´30"gap to escapees....


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At the front, "Le Manie" is about to start... peloton is 4´43" behind Stroetinga...


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i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/baia74/Flags/USA.pngJ.Keough is left behind... Fédrigo catched up with the break...


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50kms... i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/baia74/Flags/LUX.pngF.Schleck leads the 101 riders group wich lost contact with peloton.... 1´31"gap....


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The small peloton(50 riders) is 3´12" behind breakaway...


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20kms... i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/baia74/Flags/SLO.pngP.Sagan leads peloton...


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i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/baia74/Flags/COL.pngR.Urán and i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/baia74/Flags/ITA.pngA.Ballan are in front.... only "Poggio" to climb now...


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The riders start the "Poggio"... anything can happen now... Ballan drops Urán...


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Last km... 6 riders will fight for the win... i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/baia74/Flags/GER.pngL.Gerdemann is the last one... then comes i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/baia74/Flags/ITA.pngG.Visconti, i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/baia74/Flags/SPA.pngJ.Rodríguez, i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/baia74/Flags/FRA.pngT.Voeckler, i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/baia74/Flags/SWI.pngF.Cancellara and i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/baia74/Flags/ITA.pngA.Ballan...


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Cancellara jumps out from Ballan´s wheel....


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...to win Milano SanRemo....i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/baia74/Flags/ITA.pngM.Finetto makes 56th place...


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TomC
Could be better if Finetto was in the first group.
 
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sutty68
Great picture of Cancellara celebrating Wink
 
Mresuperstar
Shock Wow after seeing the startlist I thought there was no way Sky was going to lose with Cavendish, Farrar, and EBH ...

Not much more UHC could have done Wink
 
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baia
*TomC
Yes... we tried to make it possible but it wasn´t possible...Frown

*sutty68
Agree....Wink

*Mresuperstar
Big fail from SKY...Grin
Comparing teams and goals, we almost did better then SKY...Grin


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STARTLIST

Spoiler
UnitedHealthcare
1. P.Velits
2. M.Busche
3. K.Carlström
4. P.Deignan
5. R.Förster
6. J.Ryan
7. W.Stroetinga
8. M.Vazquez
BMC
11. C.Evans
12. B.Bookwalter
13. S.Cummings
14. M.Frank
15. M.Marcato
16. S.Morabito
17. R.Riccò
18. J.Tschopp
RadioShack
21. C.Horner
22. D.Bennati
23. L.Gerdemann
24. M.Irizar
25. A.Klöden
26. Y.Popovych
27. C.Rose
28. H.Zubeldia
Sky
31. C.Froome
32. M.Cronshaw
33. S.Henao
34. D.Pate
35. R.Porte
36. C.Sutton
37. R.Urán
38. X.Zandio
Rabobank
41. B.Mollema
42. W.Demaere
43. F.Goesinnen
44. T.Leezer
45. M.Matthews
46. G.Niermann
47. G-J.Soepenberg
48. B.Tankink
Movistar
51. J.J.Cobo
52. M.Bruseghin
53. A.Galdos
54. J.Herrada
55. V.Karpets
56. S.Pardilla
57. R.Plaza
58. Ó.Sevilla
GreenEdge
61. J.Peraud
62. F.Beppu
63. J.Bobridge
64. J.Cantwell
65. L.Durbridge
66. L.Howard
67. T.Meyer
68. M.Wilson
AG2R La Mondiale
71. J.Gadret
72. R.Bardet
73. M.Chérel
74. A.Geslin
75. J.Hivert
76. B.Kadri
77. A.Ravard
78. B.Shpilevsky
Garmin
81. D.Martin
82. A.Bajadali
83. J.Bauer
84. T.Danielson
85. K.Fernández
86. D.Millar
87. P.Stetina
88. D.Zabriskie
Astana
91. J.Brajkovic
92. B.Božic
93. F.Gavazzi
94. J.Guarnieri
95. V.Iglinskiy
96. T.Machado
97. S.Ponzi
98. K.Seeldraeyers
Katusha
101. E.Vorganov
102. X.Florencio
103. V.Gusev
104. P.Ignatenko
105. V.Isaychev
106. A.Kristoff
107. T.Kritskiy
108. Á.Vicioso
Caja Rural
111. M.García
112. J.A.Benítez
113. A.Cardoso
114. D.De la Fuente
115. K.Domagalski
116. R.García
117. I.Romero
118. J.Sanchez Pimienta
Androni Giocattoli
121. J.Serpa
122. A.De Marchi
123. G.Ermeti
124. S.Mancuso
125. F.J.Moreno
126. C.J.Ochoa
127. W.Proch
128. A.Santoro
Omega Pharma
131. D.Devenyns
132. F.Chicchi
133. I.Keisse
134. M.Kwiatkowski
135. J.Pineau
136. M.Trentin
137. G.Van Keirsbulck
138. M.Velits
Liquigas
141. E.Capecchi
142. F.Canuti
143. T.Duggan
144. E.King
145. D.Rebellin
146. F.Sabatini
147. M.Santambrogio
148. A.Vanotti
Andalucía
151. G.César Veloso
152. J.Aguilar
153. A.Cabello
154. A.Colom
155. J.J.Lobato
156. J.Ramírez Abeja
157. J.Rosendo
158. E.Ruiz
Vacansoleil
161. T.Dekker
162. K.Boeckmans
163. G.Larsson
164. P.Ligthart
165. W.Mol
166. R.Ruijgh
167. R.Valls
168. F.Veuchelen
Saxo Bank
171. A.Lund
172. J.J.Haedo
173. L.S.Haedo
174. J.Hernández
175. J.A.Jørgensen
176. P.Nielsen
177. B.Noval
178. M.Tosatto
Euskaltel
181. I.Mayoz
182. P.Bilbao
183. V.Cabedo
184. E.García
185. M.Landa
186. R.Pérez
187. A.Sáez de Arregi
188. P.Urtasun
Lampre
191. M.Possoni
192. W.Anacona
193. V.Buts
194. D.Cimolai
195. Y.Krivtsov
196. M.Lloyd
197. D.Righi
198. S.Stortoni
Lotto
201. G.Meersman
202. G.Bille
203. S.Cordeel
204. G.Dockx
205. J.Ghyselinck
206. F.Robert
207. M.Sieberg
208. R.Zingle
Accent Jobs
211. O.Chuzhda
212. I.Abakoumov
213. A.Cappelle
214. B.De Waele
215. J.Drucker
216. O.Kaisen
217. S.Van Dijk
218. A.Van Groen


UnitedHealthCare Squad

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2012 Winner

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baia
oops..Embarassed
Edited by baia on 08-06-2012 22:23
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baia
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STAGE 1

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1st climb.......9 riders in the break... 1´39"gap..

i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/baia74/Flags/SPA.pngJ.Sanchez Pimienta - 16pts
i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/baia74/Flags/FIN.pngK.Carlström - 12pts
i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/baia74/Flags/NED.pngT.Dekker - 10pts


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68kms.... 12kms to 2nd Int.sprint... i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/baia74/Flags/BEL.pngB.De Waele and i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/baia74/Flags/BEL.pngG.Meersman join breakaway.... 4´46"gap....


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51kms... while BMC and SKY make the pace, i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/baia74/Flags/IRL.pngP.Deignan, i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/baia74/Flags/SPA.pngP.Bilbao and i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/baia74/Flags/ITA.pngF.Gavazzi attack... 4´25"gap to front group...


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34kms...2nd climb.. De waele leads the race...

i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/baia74/Flags/BEL.pngB.De Waele - 16pts
i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/baia74/Flags/BEL.pngG.Meersman - 12pts
i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/baia74/Flags/AUS.pngJ.Bobridge - 10pts


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20kms... peloton ( 73 riders ) is 3´29" behind De Waele....


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7kms to go... i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/baia74/Flags/SLO.pngP.Velits attack... unfortunally he will be caught again...


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Front duo reach final km.... i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/baia74/Flags/BEL.pngB.De Waele leads the sprint... i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/baia74/Flags/BEL.pngG.Meersman sticks like glue on his wheel....


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...now this is one big surprise.... i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/baia74/Flags/BEL.pngB.De Waele defended his position like a lion and wins 1st stage....even when Meersman is much better sprinter...


STAGE RESULT

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GENERAL CLASSIFICATION

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baia
Two questions:
Shall i change race dificulty from extreme to hard?
You think as it is now are the results realistic or in Hard will be more?
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olabj
I think they're fairly realistic but as always it is up to you, if you think it's to easy then switch to extreme, if not then just keep it because the results are quite realistic Smile
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cunego59
To be honest I think the story would be more interesting on hard difficulty. It's usually a nicer read when the team can actually fight for some wins. And, well, that doesn't seem to be the case very much at the moment.
 
baia
Alright, stage 2 was in extreme( report will follow next) but will change to Hard from stage 3... we will see then if it stays in Hard or i come back to Extreme...Smile
Thanks for you opinionWink
I´ve always played in Extreme, with small teams, this can be really frustrating sometimes when your rider is with 95 fitness and can´t even follow weaker riders...let´s try HARD then..Smile
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baia
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STAGE 2

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1st Int.sprint.... 10 riders form the break and they lead with 4´30"gap...
i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/baia74/Flags/FIN.pngK.Carlström will try to gain some more kom pts...


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94kms.... peloton reach 2nd climb... escapees are 7´29" away... we send
i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/baia74/Flags/SPA.pngM.Vazquez to the front with the intention to break the pack...


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49kms... 2nd Int.sprint... escapees still with one good gap, 3´59"....


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20kms... i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/baia74/Flags/GER.pngM.Sieberg leads but will get caught by peloton..


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5kms... with all fugitives caught, we will have a mass sprint finish...


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Final sprint starts... i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/baia74/Flags/SLO.pngP.Velits is in good position..


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i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/baia74/Flags/ITA.pngD.Bennati wins this stage... good result for Velits..


STAGE RESULT

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GENERAL CLASSIFICATION

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KING OF MOUNTAINS

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baia
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STAGE 3

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Queen stage from this year´s Volta a Catalunya, we will witness a new leader change... i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/baia74/Flags/FIN.pngK.Carlström will fight for any kom points he can get...


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Going up in 1st climb, escapees lead with 2´50"gap...


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99kms... 2nd climb... peloton is 8´27" behind breakaway....
i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/baia74/Flags/USA.pngD.Zabriskie attacked and has 59" to peloton....


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49kms.... Zabriskie joins Wilson, droped by breakaway group... peloton is 2´39" behind and the break is 2´04"...


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5kms to 3rd climb, 20kms to go... Radioschack and BMC did one great job with the chase... Zabriskie managed to join up with the break but they are only "47 ahead...


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Now this is imo too much... this guy was with the break since the start and he can still attack with such stats...Rolling Eyes .. strange..


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5kms.... no breaks... i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/baia74/Flags/AUS.pngC.Evans and i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/baia74/Flags/SLO.pngP.Velits get out from peloton....
i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/baia74/Flags/ITA.pngM.Bruseghin tries to close the gap...


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3,8kms to go... Evans attacks again... Velits responds...


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2,2kms... Evans gets extra motivation.... Velits can´t follow...


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i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/baia74/Flags/AUS.pngC.Evans leads in the last km... i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/baia74/Flags/USA.pngC.Horner attacked and comes behind...
i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/baia74/Flags/USA.pngP.Stetina and i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/baia74/Flags/SLO.pngP.Velits follow.....


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With no need to sprint, i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/baia74/Flags/AUS.pngC.Evans wins the stage and takes overall....


STAGE RESULT

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GENERAL CLASSIFICATION

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KING OF MOUNTAINS

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Seems i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg471/baia74/Flags/FIN.pngK.Carlström hard work during this stage wasn´t enought... he will try next stage in the only KOM sprint there is..

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sutty68
Great to see Velits up there in 5th place Wink
 
CountArach
Velits is placed really well, good result.
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Avin Wargunnson
Very good Tirreno for UHC, bud bad MSR, it seems like manager of UHC is not the king of season planning Pfft
I think hard is more realistic with smaller teams,as we can see on good but not overwhelming Velits result in Catalunya. Smile
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