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| Aquarius |
Posted on 21-09-2007 13:30
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It got Puerto'ed.  |
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| Dan_Grr |
Posted on 21-09-2007 13:40
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Next on the list is Freire "He is too fast, too good, and he's spanish. He should not participate in the Worlds". |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 21-09-2007 14:14
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The surprise of the day:
According to an Australian newspaper, Valverde's lawyer has said that UCI's evidence against Valverde is "both convincing and well-authenticated"  |
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 21-09-2007 14:22
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CrueTrue wrote:
The surprise of the day:
According to an Australian newspaper, Valverde's lawyer has said that UCI's evidence against Valverde is "both convincing and well-authenticated" Well... I'm not aware of the details of the evidence, but...
Fuentes was Kelme's doctor while Valverde was there. There are several mentions of Valv.Piti in Fuentes documents and phone tapes, Valv is short for Valverde, and Piti is the name of his dog.
How on Earth can the Spanish federation say Valverde has nothing to do with all that without looking stupid and corrupted ?
About Freire : it's not like there is nothing to reproach him... I think he's a Ferrari patient (can't find the source though) and he's on the UCI blacklist (but it could be because of his good results as well). |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 21-09-2007 15:02
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CrueTrue wrote:
The surprise of the day:
According to an Australian newspaper, Valverde's lawyer has said that UCI's evidence against Valverde is "both convincing and well-authenticated"
that's very strange for Valverde's own lawyer to say, but.....there is all that Aquarius posted above, plus Manzano's testimony, which, though clearly full of exaggeration, seems to be quite credible in certain parts, due to the extreme detail to which he goes.
Aquarius wrote:
About Freire : it's not like there is nothing to reproach him... I think he's a Ferrari patient (can't find the source though) and he's on the UCI blacklist (but it could be because of his good results as well).
current world champions and those of the past can't-remember-how-many years are automatically on the list along with the top 50 of the ProTour.
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 22-09-2007 01:40
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Cyclingnews:
2008 will see a major change in professional cycling, now that a significant number of races will no longer be part of the ProTour. The Tour de France, the Giro d'Italia and the Vuelta a España will be missing from the top-ranked series, and it would seem that other hallowed events such as Paris-Roubaix, Paris-Nice, Tirreno-Adriatico and the Tour of Lombardy will also be on a separate calendar. Cyclingnews' Shane Stokes spoke to Pat McQuaid about these developments, and discovered that despite the upheaval, the UCI President still remains positive about the future of the series.
So battle isnt over...choose your side |
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| Levi4life |
Posted on 22-09-2007 02:27
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What is the point of the Pro Tour after this blow?
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 22-09-2007 02:43
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Pro Tour system has done so much good for cycling...that was lately agressiv UCI answer for mostly against ASO act. Sry. but cycling has lot more then TdF.. Lets say how FIA will react if Monaco GP says..whe will invite teams wich we like and most of all we like french teams , because they pay for us to take a part 
Intresting will be..what ASO respond for this is..my subjectiv opinion is- I prefer UCI in that fight--ofcorse they both are money and power organisation...but ASO is just picking and selling just "fruits" at that great sport.
California and Australia races inside Pro Tour calendar... why not..
Few years back they canceled NFL season..so I can live over year without TdF if they can they problem solved
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| Levi4life |
Posted on 22-09-2007 03:01
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California is not a nation but a state within a nation. I was born and raised and live in California but I am 100% American.
Now Back on Topic! I agree with a race like California becoming a pro tour event BUT i don't think any teams should be required to race in any race they don't want to. That is the biggest flaw i see in the Pro Tour deal because if FDJ don't want to race the Tour of Spain, and have no sponsor motivation they shouldn't HAVE to race in it. I deffinitly don't want to see Teams like FDJ, Bougyues Telecom, Unibet, Caisse D'Eparnge Euskaltel etc at the Tour of California taking up space that i could see filled with teams I care about like Health-Net, BMC, Jelly Belly, Collavita, Rock Racing, Slipstream, US Developmental team, etc, especialy if those 'Pro Tour' teams don't care about this race.
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| dave92 |
Posted on 22-09-2007 03:08
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Levi just ignoring the Landis case now?
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| Levi4life |
Posted on 22-09-2007 03:27
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I don't agree at all with the results of the arbitration hearing. I think the biggest testament to how fucked up the situation is that arbitration panel was split 2-1.
If you looked at the facts it would be painfully obvious that Landis is indeed innocent. I am not going to reiterate all of what i have said because I have said so much. I think a shocking fact to point out is that the French fucked up the T/E ratio test. This test is fairly simple. Yet Somehow, in some fucked up convoluted world, the IRMS, a very complicated test, was run in perfect order and is 100% bullet proof. The Arbitration panel, on many levels, acknowledged the LNDD defficencies and still voted in the favor of a very corrupt USADA.(If you do't believe that USADA is corrupt then check out the Congressional Investigation that is currently underway)
It was a trial by Media from the start and this is the fucked up world we live in.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 22-09-2007 08:39
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Levi4life wrote:
I don't agree at all with the results of the arbitration hearing. I think the biggest testament to how fucked up the situation is that arbitration panel was split 2-1.
as has been discussed previously:
one of the members of the panel was chosen by USADA, while the other was chosen by Landis. so, of course they were always going to decide each his own way.
it was up to the third "neutral" guy. his was the only vote that counted. he voted guilty.
Edited by issoisso on 22-09-2007 08:42
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| Levi4life |
Posted on 22-09-2007 08:50
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Trial by Media...
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| issoisso |
Posted on 22-09-2007 08:58
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yup. trial by Media. and there is no way anyone can get away from that in today's society.
if you're ever suspected of anything, you'll always be guilty in the public's eyes, no matter how much you're proven innocent. that sucks. but can't be changed.
As for the tests, yes, the first one was flawed, so might have given a false positive, but the IRMS was something they could not put any flaws on. there was no way the defence could show anything to indicate it had been flawed.
and it was positive. done.
he has the right to appeal if he wants to. that's the end by me. I don't like the USADA for reasons I won't go into so as not to write a post longer than war and peace, but:
If you keep questioning the justice system at every step, there will be nothing left and you will soon be questioning everything. that is no way to live and will lead nowhere good, so you have to draw the line somewhere. decision is out. let him appeal against the decision or decide against the appeal. whatever the fuck he wants.
In other news, the Abu Dhabi race of champions in November.....has been cancelled.
Edited by issoisso on 22-09-2007 08:58
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| Addy291 |
Posted on 22-09-2007 09:02
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issoisso wrote:
In other news, the Abu Dhabi race of champions in November.....has been cancelled.
YORKSHIRE BORN, YORKSHIRE BRED... |
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| Smoothie |
Posted on 22-09-2007 09:38
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Do you know why? Likeing the Sig by the way! How about the motorway one  |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 22-09-2007 11:23
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Smoothie wrote:
Do you know why?
From Cyclingnews:
Spanish race organiser Unipublic has decided to suspend the 2007 Abu Dhabi Cycling Race of Champions citing "repeated failure to meet contractual obligations" by local contractors Kenzay LLC as the reason for its decision. The inaugural edition was scheduled to be held from November 6-9 in the United Arab Emirates and had attracted several ProTour teams with its unprecedented first prize of one million US dollars.
In a statement issued on Friday, Unipublic, which also organises the Vuelta a España, said it contracted Kenzay in early 2007 after a recommendation from the Abu Dhabi Tourism Authority to help with local production of the event. This included setting up crowd barriers, obtaining police permits and searching for sponsors and financial backing, obligations which Unipublic says have not been met.
Unipublic insists it has met its own contractual obligations as regards the race, and said it remains interested in organising the event in future years once local infrastructure is fully in place.
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 22-09-2007 23:16
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WADA has now said they are supporting UCI in the case against Valverde. They say that there's so much circumstantial evidence that the Spanish cycling federation should open a case immediately.
This Wednesday, CAS will decide if Valverde is allowed to take part in the World Championship. |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 24-09-2007 17:41
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In 1993, the 25-year-old Colombian talent, Alvaro Mejia, ended 4th in Tour de France. To the website, PezCycling, he says that he was told by the other riders that he needed to take EPO if he wanted to win - that was what everyone else did. He wrote a letter to the UCI, but they didn't react at all. A few years later he retired. He didn't want to compete with cheaters.
Now, he's a doctor of the Colombian national team.
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Contador has now officially said that he would prefer to follow Bruyneel whereever he goes. He also said that he has received several other offers, but won't take a decision before he knows what Bruyneel is going to do. |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 24-09-2007 21:21
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McQuaid has now also said what we were all thinking: Spain doesn't do enough about the doping issue. I'm surprised how open-mouthed he actually is. |
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