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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 17-04-2011 23:03
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ruben wrote:
rjc_43 wrote:
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To react to people.
It's funny that so many people who watch cycling for so many years. Miss something like that.
Personally, it was quite obvious when Gesink started holding his calf/hamstring. And also when Gilbert went to the front for one of his first turns. On a downhill. And he split the group. But I don't blame people when we're given commentators who suggest they won [in years gone by] on a drink of whiskey.
Exactly, it was quite obvious, Which it why I find it funny that people like CrueTrue and Aquarius don't notice it.
But people nowadays don't pay attention to details.
And ofcourse it's easier to see on a GIANT screen on the Cauberg then on a TV, even if in HD. 
Plus we saw the riders coming by on the first cauberg passage and you could already see most were dead and buried, even if they were still in the first group
In general, I'm very bad at seeing how the riders feel. Commentators (and issoisso) often talk about how the riders are 'pedaling', but again, I can't "detect" that. You're also right, though, that it may be easier to see on a giant screen on Cauberg
That said, I find it hard to believe that no one except Andy Schleck had any power left to attack.
They should use some more EPO.
Edited by CrueTrue on 17-04-2011 23:04
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| ruben |
Posted on 17-04-2011 23:10
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Rodriguez, Anton, Contador |
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| lup_andrei |
Posted on 17-04-2011 23:18
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Already third in the Milan-San Remo Classic race this season, Gilbert's latest victory reconfirms the 28-year-old as the front-runner for Belgium's two Ardennes Classics, the Fleche Wallonne on Wednesday and Liege-Bastogne-Liege next Sunday.
"Fleche Wallone doesn't really suit me as a course, I might be able to win it but only if I was ahead of the pack and reached the final climb in a small group of riders.
"Liege-Bastogne-Liege, on the other hand, is definitely a race where I expect and hope to shine."
So who says he wont be at the start of La Fleche? |
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 17-04-2011 23:25
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schleck93 wrote:
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As for Frank Schleck, he needs some of these.
Give him a break for once, Cancellara crashed right in front of Frank, hadly his fault for once. 
Is that 2 or 3 years running now he's crashed in this race in the latter stages knocking himself out of contention? |
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| schleck93 |
Posted on 17-04-2011 23:39
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Something like that. But my point is, he may crash often and at stupid places, but this year you can't really blame it on him.
Edited by schleck93 on 17-04-2011 23:40
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 17-04-2011 23:55
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ruben wrote:
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Unless they were glad to simply be able to follow, but I'm not really buying that.
Or option 4, they were too exhausted and glad to be even following...
Oops, forget about that did we? 
Oh well... It's not like I didn't write it, is it ?
Anyway, I was barely watching, though I had the TV on. Was busy working (designing plans, I just finished 15 minutes ago). I watched the last 25 km or so though, and yes Gesink was/looked dead, and no, I wasn't particularly pointing at Rabobank or Dutch riders, was I ? |
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| ruben |
Posted on 18-04-2011 00:01
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Pretty much all riders seemed dead to me, except Rodriguez and Gilbert, Rodriguez did try on the Keuteberg (going solo from further out is impossible for him). And A. Schleck did try on top of the Keuteberg.
They were unlucky there was Jelle Vanendert. But otherwise Gilbert probably would have still solved things himself and won.
The others...not a chance already dead at that point |
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| ruben |
Posted on 18-04-2011 00:02
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CrueTrue wrote:
ruben wrote:
rjc_43 wrote:
ruben wrote:
To react to people.
It's funny that so many people who watch cycling for so many years. Miss something like that.
Personally, it was quite obvious when Gesink started holding his calf/hamstring. And also when Gilbert went to the front for one of his first turns. On a downhill. And he split the group. But I don't blame people when we're given commentators who suggest they won [in years gone by] on a drink of whiskey.
Exactly, it was quite obvious, Which it why I find it funny that people like CrueTrue and Aquarius don't notice it.
But people nowadays don't pay attention to details.
And ofcourse it's easier to see on a GIANT screen on the Cauberg then on a TV, even if in HD.
Plus we saw the riders coming by on the first cauberg passage and you could already see most were dead and buried, even if they were still in the first group
In general, I'm very bad at seeing how the riders feel. Commentators (and issoisso) often talk about how the riders are 'pedaling', but again, I can't "detect" that. You're also right, though, that it may be easier to see on a giant screen on Cauberg
That said, I find it hard to believe that no one except Andy Schleck had any power left to attack.
They should use some more EPO.
Welcome to the world of clean cycling. Nowadays, a race with 32 official hills and some 13 unofficial ones (so 45) is too hard for 99% of the riders to still attack in in the final
The good epo years where Boogerd, Rebellin and Valverde put in countless attacks from 30km out are gone |
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| Gustavovskiy |
Posted on 18-04-2011 00:05
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What's your definition of the word "dead" ruben?
I agree with Aquarius, Gesink was terminated after the penultimate climb, but the others, even if greatly tired, weren't just about to drop from the group.
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| ruben |
Posted on 18-04-2011 00:28
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Judging by how the Cauberg went, I definately disagree.
They were empty bodies...
believe me, if they had the chance they'd done something
Edited by ruben on 18-04-2011 00:28
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 18-04-2011 00:44
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ruben wrote:Welcome to the world of clean cycling.
Good one. 
I was going to post something similar when Crommy / Aquarius started talking about Gilbert and dope.
Just forget about it, fair play to Gilbert, he was the winner. Absolutely awesome performance in the closing 4km. Why the f'/k bring up dope?
Don't get why I could perhaps trawl through just about every football forum out there and not come across the words Yaya Toure and dope and then when someone wins a big race, people start bringing it up for absolutely no reason...... |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 18-04-2011 09:27
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So we can't even applaud a race for being "human"? We're positive, for once. Enjoy it while it lasts |
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| Crommy |
Posted on 18-04-2011 10:49
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fenian_1234 wrote:
ruben wrote:Welcome to the world of clean cycling.
Good one.
I was going to post something similar when Crommy / Aquarius started talking about Gilbert and dope.
Just forget about it, fair play to Gilbert, he was the winner. Absolutely awesome performance in the closing 4km. Why the f'/k bring up dope?
Because 3 years ago he probably wouldn't have been able to win because the peloton was more doped. This is a very good thing that he now can
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| lup_andrei |
Posted on 18-04-2011 11:40
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Gilbert will be at the start line of La Fleche Wallone on wednesday(lotto official site) and I think he can achieve at least a top 5 there. |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 18-04-2011 11:56
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If I am reading ruben non stop posts about..how dead Rabo guys was..then step from that saying us..how strong riders van den Broeck and Gilbert was. This two guys destroyed a all field completely.
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| Stijn_vranken |
Posted on 19-04-2011 10:59
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Guido Mukk wrote:
If I am reading ruben non stop posts about..how dead Rabo guys was..then step from that saying us..how strong riders van den Broeck and Gilbert was. This two guys destroyed a all field completely.
yet i am somewhat dissapointed in van den Broeck. he hoped he would last a litte while longer. But yes Van den Broeck was very strong & gilbert even stronger. The fleche will be for purito! Gilbert is too heavy for the first slopes of huy
prevent hangovers --> stay drunk
pozzato, basically the most stupid cyclist around
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| forzacunego |
Posted on 19-04-2011 11:15
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I'm going to call a podium in Fleche for Cunego, and outside top 15 in Liege. He always seem to be close on Mur de Huy, and I think he is in form this year, Amstel was just a bad day. Liege has never suited him, though, which is pretty weird given he has won three times in Lombardy, a race i think compares to Liege. I guess it fits him to put everything into the last race of the season, when everyone else just wants a vacation. |
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| jack888 |
Posted on 19-04-2011 11:53
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Can't believe Contador is back already, shows how out of the loop i am.
Rodriguez has been looking pretty good recently, guess he'd be my pick. |
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| fenian_1234 |
Posted on 19-04-2011 20:48
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I'm looking forward to seeing what kind of shape Anton is in and how he goes tommorrow.
Anyone - even Vino or Di Luca - rather than Contador. |
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| felix_29 |
Posted on 19-04-2011 20:51
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I doubt Di Luca will finish in the top 20. He did good in the early season but his results then got weaker. But i agree with you saying rather Di Luca than Contador
I´ve got no clue who will win but i predict one of the Schlecks on the podium
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