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kumazan
mattiasgt wrote:
Landis is taking a nab at Vaughters and Wiggins.

https://www.versus.com/blogs/the-exper...es-firing/


"Considered the cleanest in the sport."

By whom?
 
CrueTrue
SportingNonsense wrote:
And to think, only last week Vaughters was all protective of White over rumours of the GreenEdge Aussie team


In the press release, they make a big deal about this not being related to anything else than the doctor-thing. Which makes me think it's even more likely that it's got to do with the GreenEdge / White-link Wink

I'm looking forward to The Inner Ring's details on the GreenEdge's contracts. Sounds quite controversial.
 
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Aquarius
I'm starting to like Landis. Pfft But I'm afraid he'll be found having committed suicide with four bullets in his back one of these days.
 
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issoisso
Versus, of course, took down the story.

Shame.



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Floyd Landis has struck out once again at the cycling establishment. Last may during the Amgen Tour of California Landis accused Lance Armstrong and several ex-teammate of participating in an organized doping program during his time at the Postal Service team. This time he takes aim at a different target.

Landis claims that the current team manager of Garmin-Cervelo, Jonathan Vaughters, admitted to USADA's Travis Tygart that he had doped during his professional cycling career and was not sanctioned.

Landis writes, "Had USADA done what it was obligated to do at the time of his confession, as I'm not aware of a rule allowing for immunity in the case of a confession, I'd have known of it for one thing. But more importantly JV (Jonathan Vaughters)would not have been allowed to go on to develop USPS version 2.0 behind the facade of the "clean team" mantra."

Landis goes on to accuse the UCI of covering for Vaughters as another doping scandal, and one linked to the Garmin team - considered to be the cleanest in the sport, would ruin the reputation of professional cycling.

Vaughters made this statement, "We made a promise to our riders and to the world when we started this team. We live, every day, by the standards we have set for ourselves. We cannot allow this vital team rule to be broken."

This cover up includes then Garmin rider Bradley Wiggins. In a text message exchange Landis said to have had with Vaughters, "I discussed the fact that Bradley Wiggens (sic) HGB numbers that were publicly (posted on the web to show how he was riding clean) touted as evidence of his sainthood almost certainly indicated blood doping by Wiggens (sic) in the last week of the 2009 tour. His response was not so disturbing because if his defense of Wiggens (sic) but by the indication that he in fact had discussed these very numbers with the UCI and the UCI had assured him that it was a result of using a different testing machine." HGB stands for hemoglobin.

www.vsimgcdn.com/files/img/2011/01/23/1295791648/wiggins-hemoglibin.gif_standalone.jpg

Landis continues, "Numbers I'll remind you that are all to similar to my 2006 numbers for which USADA made allegations on the record in my hearings that they indicated doping, and all of that CAS testimony was accepted as fact in the decision. Certainly since I admit to blood doping and the numbers indicate it according to WADA scientists on the record and that very record which will always remain on record was thereafter accepted as fact by three CAS lawyers it must be considered to be so."

Landis calls on Tygart to, "suspend JV immediately from working in cycling. I don't want to take the credit for divulging another doping scandal because it's not my job. It's yours.

The disgraced Tour de France winner claims his motivation to release another round of e-mails accusing riders and management of doping is to clear his conscience and show the hypocrisy of WADA.

Two problems with that, Floyd my dear boy:

1. It's hard to argue that Vaughters is running a doping program when he took the initiative of going to the UCI to ask if his own rider (Wiggins)'s values are indicative of doping.

2. Wiggins' blood values aren't as bad as Floyd's values from the 2006 Tour (massive HcT spike on the second rest day that makes Wiggins' spike look tame)
Edited by issoisso on 24-01-2011 08:27
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"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
 
roturn
Montepaschi Strade Bianchi without Saxobank, Sky and Astana.
So earlier winners Lövkvist and Iglinsky won`t be there and also no Saxobank, which won it twice.
They had to pick just 7/18 of the PT Teams to have more slots for Continental Teams.

Teams: BMC, HTC-Highroad, Lampre-ISD, Liquigas-Cannondale, Omega Pharma-Lotto, Garmin-Cervélo, Leopard-Trek, Acqua & Sapone, Androni-Giocattoli, Colnago-CSF-Inox, De Rosa-Ceramica Flaminia, Farnese Vini-Neri Sottoli, Geox-TMC, Team Type 1
Edited by roturn on 24-01-2011 14:58
 
ABridgeTooFar
issoisso wrote:
I don't care for White. He once tested positive. He got away on a technicality. He tries to hide that from the public.

I don't care for that.


Agreed. Never thought much of him as a DS. I hated that they chased down Hincapie to keep him out of yellow. Dumb-ass reason to chase down a break
 
ABridgeTooFar
Landis's only goal is to tear down the entire sport. He wants to burn the entire house because no one will let him in the front door.
 
kumazan
ABridgeTooFar wrote:
Landis's only goal is to tear down the entire sport. He wants to burn the entire house because no one will let him in the front door.


Nah, what Landis want is money. It's kinda obvious when he's attaking the biggest US rider and team.
 
valverde321
kumazan wrote:
ABridgeTooFar wrote:
Landis's only goal is to tear down the entire sport. He wants to burn the entire house because no one will let him in the front door.


Nah, what Landis want is money. It's kinda obvious when he's attaking the biggest US rider and team.

Well dependng on where you live he could be doing both. The casual viewers in the US will start to think cycling is a joke if Lance is officially caught.
 
kumazan
But that would be a consequence, rather than the actual goal of Landis (imo). And the USA=/=the world, specially in cycling, which is a mostly European sport, regardless of the effort to globalize it.
 
issoisso
This just in: Scarponi is really really corny

www.lampre-farnese.com/img/home/foto1.jpg
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kumazan
I think that Italians can't embarrass themselves, no matter what they do.

In other news, have Andrew and Berto ceased to be friends?

https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/schle...-de-france
Edited by kumazan on 26-01-2011 14:40
 
Guido Mukk
ABridgeTooFar wrote:
Agreed. Never thought much of him as a DS. I hated that they chased down Hincapie to keep him out of yellow. Dumb-ass reason to chase down a break


for me Hincapie did not ride fast enough to get yellow.
Dumb-ass reason to complane after that you took away a my chanche to get yellow.
So..!?
 
Aquarius
kumazan wrote:
I think that Italians can't embarrass themselves, no matter what they do.

In other news, have Andrew and Berto ceased to be friends?

https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/schle...-de-france
PR stuff... When Contador hadn't been announced positive, he was a happy second, when the outcome was uncertain, he didn't mind, now that Contador will be banned (rest to know how and for how long) he is pissed at him. Just trying to look like the nice guy in every situation...
What a puppet.
 
issoisso
The most telling is that, while a clean rider would be extremely angry at being robbed of a win by a cheater, Contador's drugs couldn't be farther from Schleck's mind.

Instead, he's demuring on the minor point of the chain slip.

That speaks volumes.
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issoisso
Speaking of news, Colombia es Pasión is starting to get european invites. They'll be in Turkey Smile
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Aquarius
issoisso wrote:
The most telling is that, while a clean rider would be extremely angry at being robbed of a win by a cheater, Contador's drugs couldn't be farther from Schleck's mind.

Instead, he's demuring on the minor point of the chain slip.

That speaks volumes.
So bloody true.
It's good to mention it, even though it's obvious to anyone not too naive that the both of them were as doped as possible during the last TDF.
 
Ildabaoth
issoisso wrote:
Speaking of news, Colombia es Pasión is starting to get european invites. They'll be in Turkey Smile


That's pretty nice. Current confirmed races for Colombia es Pasión:

Settimana Coppi-Bartali
Settimana Lombarda
Giro del Apenino
Vuelta Castilla y León
Giro del Trentino
Gran Premio de Llodio
Vuelta a la Rioja
Tour of Turkey
Vuelta a Madrid
Circuit de Llorraine
Boucles de l'Aulne
Clásica de Ordizia
Circuito de Getxo
Tour de l'Ain

Grin
Disclaimer: The above post reflects just the personal opinion of the author and not a fact. But if you read it, you must accept it as the ultimate truth.
 
olabj
Me like alot!
 
Jonathan
I'm looking at katusha's website and there is a small part where riders can introduce themselves. Especially Brutt's page is inspiring Pfft: https://www.katush...p;id=BRUTT
 
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