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| blueye |
Posted on 21-05-2009 16:39
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thank you basso for loosing my 200 pcm greens on overall. also great ride by di luca |
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| Biathlon |
Posted on 21-05-2009 16:39
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Guido Mukk wrote:
Biathlon wrote:
Mukk just accept you was wrong and that Di Luca lost more than you thought... Even Di Luca got owned the last part of the race.
Isso said that it was the last descend that was hard. Levi still owned them...
yeaah..look who is still second on the GC..before stage where most expected him to loose like 4min.
Most^^ Thats the best you got? You thought Levi wasnt even going to take 1min.. You have been talking about how bad Levi is on decent and bends etc. But he got 1:34....
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| mb2612 |
Posted on 21-05-2009 16:41
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Armstrong:
And congrats to Dennis Menchov. Classy, classy ride.
EDIT: wow over 1000 posts, yay
Edited by mb2612 on 21-05-2009 16:42
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 21-05-2009 16:42
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It's has been long day.."ignore"....say hahahaa.
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 21-05-2009 16:49
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Menchov , I think he has the first chance to finish with the pink jersey in Rome. But is Rabo strong enough to help him? Ten Dam should do that or maybe Ardila.
And why did I put my money on Menchov for the pink jersey and on Rogers for the stage win, he sucked today... wait... I think I pressed the wrong button and voted for Leipheimer, not Menchov. damn.
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| Juan |
Posted on 21-05-2009 16:51
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Just for issoisso who said that he'd change his avatar into a pink tutu if Lövkvist was "maglia bianca"
1. Lövkvist (SWE/THR)
2. Seeldrayers (BEL/QST) +4:42
3. Rodriguez (VEN/Sda) +5:30
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| Phanekim |
Posted on 21-05-2009 17:00
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If you ask me, Di Luca is in great shape. There's a lot of DD stages left in giro with awesome time bonuses. |
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 21-05-2009 17:09
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Biathlon wrote:
Mukk just accept you was wrong and that Di Luca lost more than you thought... Even Di Luca got owned the last part of the race.
Isso said that it was the last descend that was hard. Levi still owned them...
no he didn't. Yeah at the last intermediate time, Menchov had 34 seconds advantage, but on at the rest of them it always been something like 20 seconds between them.
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| ruben |
Posted on 21-05-2009 18:42
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Everyobody keeps going on about Menchov losing 14 seconds in the last part to Leipheimer, BUT, in the first part, Menchov led by 18 seconds, and after the descent he had 15 seconds on Leipheimer, then on the climb, he again won time up to 34 seconds.
So isn't it easy? Menchov is the strongest uphill, way stronger than Leipheimer for sure. And lost some time on the downhill, big deal. He probably used it for recuperation, instead of going flat out this time. |
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| Goldberger |
Posted on 21-05-2009 18:48
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Ruben wrote:
And lost some time on the downhill, big deal. He probably used it for recuperation, instead of going flat out this time.
No way , he went all out in the last part too, otherwise he would have lost to Levi. |
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| ruben |
Posted on 21-05-2009 18:53
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The fact alone that he beat Leipheimer in Leipheimers major speciality says enough about this Giro really.
There is almost no chance of Leipheimer winning now. I only see Di Luca as a threat |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 21-05-2009 19:02
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Let's give it time. Anything can happen.
And if Di Luca can hold onto the others on the Monte Petrano (doubt it), then I'll consider him a contender. Until then, he's on the "maybe" pile. So far this is just like the Giro he won: wins a bucketload of time bonuses and TTT time.....loses time when the real mountains come around.
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| Ildabaoth |
Posted on 21-05-2009 19:19
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Whoa! People are hurrying in deciding the Giro's winner right now. Come on, guys, the first 3 riders in GC are in a 40 seconds gap. And there are quite some mountains and a TT remaining, and even if it's not too long, it's more fitted to Levi than today's one. And Menchov even being great (I admire him, by the way) doesn't have the team Levi or Di Luca have.
Edited by Ildabaoth on 21-05-2009 19:21
Disclaimer: The above post reflects just the personal opinion of the author and not a fact. But if you read it, you must accept it as the ultimate truth.
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| mrlol |
Posted on 21-05-2009 19:23
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Ok, so what does Rabobank's site say: First of all that Menchov is very very happy with this victory, as he've been aiming for this stage since the day the route was announced.
Also they say they'll now have to defend the jersey, which could be difficult with this team. Especially because guys like Pellizotti, Sastre and Basso now are 2 min+ behind, which means they'll have to attack.
And then there's this: Ten Dam says that the team will now probably start riding better then before (which isnt unusual for a team with the leaders jersey), and that he's pretty sure Kozontchuk will go with the best 15-20 riders in the mountains
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 21-05-2009 19:24
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Di Luca's team isn't too good either. Also Menchov didn't have a great team in Vuelta 2007 and still won it, pretty much dominating.
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| Ildabaoth |
Posted on 21-05-2009 19:30
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alexkr00 wrote:
Di Luca's team isn't too good either. Also Menchov didn't have a great team in Vuelta 2007 and still won it, pretty much dominating.
I'm not saying he won't win. Actually, I want him to win. But the thing is, it is too early to say x rider will win the giro. Not with a 40 seconds gap, not with the real mountains remaining.
Disclaimer: The above post reflects just the personal opinion of the author and not a fact. But if you read it, you must accept it as the ultimate truth.
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 21-05-2009 19:31
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Ildabaoth wrote:
alexkr00 wrote:
Di Luca's team isn't too good either. Also Menchov didn't have a great team in Vuelta 2007 and still won it, pretty much dominating.
I'm not saying he won't win. Actually, I want him to win. But the thing is, it is too early to say x rider will win the giro. Not with a 40 seconds gap, not with the real mountains remaining.
you said that Menchov has a weaker team than Di Luca or Leipheimer. And I said that he did it even without a good team not that he will win and that LPR isn't too great either.
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| mrlol |
Posted on 21-05-2009 19:35
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alexkr00 wrote:
Di Luca's team isn't too good either. Also Menchov didn't have a great team in Vuelta 2007 and still won it, pretty much dominating.
You cant compare this Giro and that Vuelta though. Now there's Di Luca and Leipheimer both very much willing to win this race. Not to mention the attacks that can come from Sastre, Pellizotti, Basso...
In that Vuelta the competition wasnt as strong, mostly coming tired out of the Tour, where Menchov had an 'easy' Tour with the Rasmussen incident. |
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| knasen |
Posted on 21-05-2009 19:35
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Ruben wrote:
The fact alone that he beat Leipheimer in Leipheimers major speciality says enough about this Giro really.
There is almost no chance of Leipheimer winning now. I only see Di Luca as a threat
Agrees. Now Leipheimer must take some times in the mountains. I dont think he can take that much time the last day(TT). And when did Levi attack last? |
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| Ildabaoth |
Posted on 21-05-2009 19:38
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alexkr00 wrote:
Ildabaoth wrote:
alexkr00 wrote:
Di Luca's team isn't too good either. Also Menchov didn't have a great team in Vuelta 2007 and still won it, pretty much dominating.
I'm not saying he won't win. Actually, I want him to win. But the thing is, it is too early to say x rider will win the giro. Not with a 40 seconds gap, not with the real mountains remaining.
you said that Menchov has a weaker team than Di Luca or Leipheimer. And I said that he did it even without a good team not that he will win and that LPR isn't too great either.
Yes, but you seemed to imply that I discarded him because Astana is a better team. And no. You can win a grand tour with a weaker team, but it is more difficult.
Anyhow, the good thing is that the giro got better because of the small gaps. It would be rather boring if he had today a leader by 4 minutes, so we could effectively says he will win. Fortunately, that is not the case.
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