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| BenBarnes |
Posted on 25-08-2009 14:04
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issoisso wrote:
Vino hasn't competitively climbed a mountain in years. He'll suffer in the first mountain stage.
I think that was evidenced in even the climbing stages of Tour de L'Ain. He lost a lot of time. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 25-08-2009 14:42
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Just 4 more days till the Vuelta 
Finally
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"I love him, I think he's great. He's transformed the sport in so many ways. Every person in cycling has benefitted from Lance Armstrong, perhaps not financially but in some sense" - Bradley Wiggins on Lance Armstrong
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| chrica04 |
Posted on 25-08-2009 16:20
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Guido Mukk wrote:
chrica04 wrote:
I hope Horner drives him into ground.
Of corse you do. I think he wont get any chanche for that..if Vino is already there..then Horner is he's helper.
Yea, I guess we could see a split squad again......but more would be there that probably like Horner |
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| mrlol |
Posted on 25-08-2009 16:33
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issoisso wrote:
Just 4 more days till the Vuelta
Finally
x2.
Can't wait to see Mouris / Westra / Boom completely pown the international top guns in the prologue XD |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 25-08-2009 17:30
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It turns out that Weylandt will ride the Vuelta afterall.
Rest of the Quick Step Team: Boonen, Davis, Devolder, Barredo, Tosatto, Velo, Wynants, De Weert
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 25-08-2009 17:35
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issoisso wrote:
Vino hasn't competitively climbed a mountain in years. He'll suffer in the first mountain stage.
yep..only TT is place where he can hunt stage win..
It's damn hard to come back to GT after 2 year break..
Basso should be ready now..he can win this race..at least strong podium candidate.
Edited by Guido Mukk on 25-08-2009 17:36
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| schleck93 |
Posted on 25-08-2009 17:40
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Gonna be so great, the route is one of the best in many years
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 25-08-2009 17:47
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ASO will be crying if they see how fun GT can be to watch..
Hint for ASO..do not take mountain top finishes away...40 km TTT middle of the race...can kill the competition |
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| KurtinSC |
Posted on 25-08-2009 18:08
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Guido Mukk wrote:
ASO will be crying if they see how fun GT can be to watch..
Hint for ASO..do not take mountain top finishes away...40 km TTT middle of the race...can kill the competition
Blaming the TTT for this year's tour is unfair.
If the TTT wasn't there, they'd replace it with an ITT instead (the tour was very light on TT's otherwise... 3 TT's of some variety is pretty much a minimum for most TDF's... 2008 being a VERY rare exception... which is a big reason Sastre could win the race).
How would this have changed things? Very little. It would likely have given Contador more of a lead on the Schlecks then the TTT did... it might have helped Wiggins and Armstrong against the Schlecks.
It certainly wouldn't have helped anyone against Contador. |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 25-08-2009 18:13
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man look at the GC table after TTT..is this fear..and then look where is TT rider Evans name on this list..is this fear? |
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| KurtinSC |
Posted on 25-08-2009 18:44
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Guido Mukk wrote:
man look at the GC table after TTT..is this fear..and then look where is TT rider Evans name on this list..is this fear?
I'm assuming by "fear" you mean "fair" (I know you're not a native english speaker).
Okay... here's the way I look at it. Let's say instead of the TTT they had a duplicate of the last ITT... with the same results. (I know this isn't exactly how it would be, but we've got to guess how an ITT would end up in some way and it's the best I could come up with.
GC contenders before the stage:
Armstrong - leader (amongst GC guys)
Contador - + '19
Wiggins - + '20 (though we didn't think him a GC guy at the time)
Kloden - + '23
Evans - + '24
Kreuziger - + '33
Rogers - + '33
Nibali - + '38
Vandevelde - + '58
Andy Schleck - + 1'01
Sastre - + 1'07
Frank Schleck - + 1'47
GC results after the stage (with what it was after the TTT in parens):
Contador - Leader (+ '19)
Wiggins - + '44 (+ '38)
Kloden - + '58 (+ '23)
Armstrong - +1'11 (leader)
Evans - + 1'19 (+ 2'59)
Rogers - + 1'52 (+ 1'32)
Nibali - + 2'24 (1'36)
A. Schleck - + 2'27 (+ 1'41)
Vandevelde - + 2'39 (+ 1'16)
Kreuziger - + 3'30 (+1'31)
F. Schleck - + 4'02 (+ 2'17)
C. Sastre - + 4'35 (+2'44)
If you look... the only person CLOSER to the lead with a TT there rathter than a duplicate performance of the last TT is Evans. Overall the race was TIGHTER amongst the leaders due to having a TTT rather then an ITT. |
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| chrica04 |
Posted on 25-08-2009 19:26
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Basso could be good, I am really pulling for a top 5 from Danielson. |
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 25-08-2009 19:34
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KurtinSC wrote:
Armstrong - leader (amongst GC guys)
Contador - + '19
Wiggins - + '20 (though we didn't think him a GC guy at the time)
Kloden - + '23
Evans - + '24
Kreuziger - + '33
Don't include the rest of us in that category thanks. I was fully aware of what he was aiming to do, and what he was quite capable of. (Regardless of all the haterz out there  )
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| Ste117 |
Posted on 25-08-2009 21:21
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If Astana put Vino as team leader, I reckon there will be a mass exodus of riders after the season because it will be out of order them getting behind when he has not been there for a month after coming back from a ban, if I was Horner, Zubeldia, Kloden n other spanish and americans in the team I know I would leave. |
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| ruben |
Posted on 25-08-2009 21:39
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Maaskant will start in the vuelta for garmin, he mailed me today. So he's appearently replacing someone. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 25-08-2009 21:47
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ruben wrote:
someone.
I don't want to say it, but there's no doubt in my mind you can guess who I'm thinking of 
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 25-08-2009 21:50
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Ste117 wrote:
If Astana put Vino as team leader, I reckon there will be a mass exodus of riders after the season because it will be out of order them getting behind when he has not been there for a month after coming back from a ban, if I was Horner, Zubeldia, Kloden n other spanish and americans in the team I know I would leave.
most of the good riders will all go to radioshack to offer their bodies for lance
Edit: but not in that way
Edited by wackojackohighcliffe on 25-08-2009 21:50
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 25-08-2009 22:02
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KurtinSC wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
man look at the GC table after TTT..is this fear..and then look where is TT rider Evans name on this list..is this fear?
I'm assuming by "fear" you mean "fair" (I know you're not a native english speaker).
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ups.. sry about that..
I like to think as idiot about this situation..without that TTT situation had been different.. |
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 25-08-2009 22:04
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wackojackohighcliffe wrote:
most of the good riders will all go to radioshack to offer their bodies for lance
Edit: but not in that way
Actually if any American riders besides Leipheimer, Horner, or Phinney go to Radio Shack, it probably is in that way |
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| chrica04 |
Posted on 25-08-2009 23:54
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issoisso wrote:
ruben wrote:
someone.
I don't want to say it, but there's no doubt in my mind you can guess who I'm thinking of
Who? |
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