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Tour de France 09 - Pre Race Thread
ruben
No way Nibali is finishing ahead of Gesink btw.
 
Eddy Merckx
Yes, slipped my mind.

Gesink against Nibali in TT? Nibali better.
Gesink against Nibali in Mountain? Gesink ahead of Nibali.

Or is that wrong?
 
ponka00
Eddy Merckx wrote:
Yes, slipped my mind.

Gesink against Nibali in TT? Nibali better.
Gesink against Nibali in Mountain? Gesink ahead of Nibali.

Or is that wrong?


Nibali will probably loose more to Gesink in the mountains than Gesink will lose in a time trial. Gesink isn't a bad TT'er
 
alexkr00
ponka00 wrote:
Eddy Merckx wrote:
Yes, slipped my mind.

Gesink against Nibali in TT? Nibali better.
Gesink against Nibali in Mountain? Gesink ahead of Nibali.

Or is that wrong?


Nibali will probably loose more to Gesink in the mountains than Gesink will lose in a time trial. Gesink isn't a bad TT'er


exactly while Nibali pretty much sucks in the high mountainsWink
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ruben
Gesink vs Nibali in TT:
Rider 1: Rider 2:
NED GESINK Robert 4 - 1 ITA NIBALI Vincenzo

1 10/06/2009 Fra Critérium du Dauphiné Libéré, Stage 4 : Bourg-les-Valence - Valence I.T.T. 13. 14.
2 7/06/2009 Fra Critérium du Dauphiné Libéré, Stage 1 : Nancy I.T.T. 46. 5.
3 11/04/2009 Esp Vuelta al Pais Vasco, Stage 6 : Zalla - Zalla I.T.T. 9. 11.
4 15/03/2009 Ita Tirreno - Adriatico, Stage 5 : Loreto - Macerata I.T.T. 6. 16.
5 13/08/2008 Chn Olympic Games (Beijing) - I.T.T. 10. 14.

The only exception is the Dauphine prologue, where Nibali is better. In long TT's Gesink >> Nibali

Gesink is simply better than Nibali on every aspect except prologues.
Did I mention Gesink is the most underrated TT-er. Everybody has this image of him being a climber with no TT. While this year, he nearly always top 20-top 10/ed in long time trials.

Gesink on the level on Kreuziger in general classifications. Yes, Kreuziger has won more, but that is because Kreuziger picks easier races to exploit his form, Romandie, Tour de Suisse... the field is weaker there than in Dauphine, Pais Vasco or the Ardennes classics (where Gesink is good).
Edited by ruben on 12-06-2009 12:57
 
Roman
Kreuziger is better than Gesink? Gesink is better than Kreuziger? We can't know it. No real comparison so far.. Well I'm Czech. So Kreuziger is better B)
 
issoisso
And if you can get your multiple accounts to chime in, I'm betting they'll all agree with you Pfft
 
Roman
Roman is my first name, it's only luck that is same as Kreuziger's WinkPfft
 
Xavier
even Kreuziger his fathers first name is Roman, so it must be a popular name over there Pfft
 
schleck93
Yes he even won the Czech amatuer championship in 1990 Pfft
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ursul
I know a Czech that was named roman too.
When Nothing goes rigth, go left...
 
issoisso
Xavier wrote:
even Kreuziger his fathers first name is Roman, so it must be a popular name over there Pfft


Random factoid. Gary and Phil Neville's father: Neville Neville.
 
fenian_1234
If the teams preparation for the Giro is anything to go by, then you'd have to back Gesink over Kreuziger. :lol:

Then again, what you get away with at the Giro and what you get away with at the Tour are nowadays a little different...Wink
 
Deadpool
issoisso wrote:
Xavier wrote:
even Kreuziger his fathers first name is Roman, so it must be a popular name over there Pfft


Random factoid. Gary and Phil Neville's father: Neville Neville.


Awesome, reminds me of Montgomery Montgomery, the character from "A Series of Unfortunate Events"

From Wikipedia, about Neville Neville:

Neville has achieved somewhat of a cult status among football fans, not least because of his unusual name but also because of his raucous partying with the wives and girlfriends (WAGs) of the England players that took place in Germany at the 2006 World Cup. Neville stood on a couch at a local restaurant and bar and proceeded to lead the WAGs in singing the national anthem and smashing their champagne glasses.[10]
His name is part of what has been called "one of the best chants in football":[11][12]
Neville Neville, they're in defence
Neville Neville, their future's immense
Neville Neville, they ain't half bad
Neville Neville, the name of their dad
(Sung to the tune of David Bowie's "Rebel Rebel"Wink
Edited by Deadpool on 14-06-2009 16:06
 
Ildabaoth
Do somebody have an audio streaming (english, spanish or french)? I don't get a thing of what they say. Thanks.

EDIT: oops, wrong thread.
Edited by Ildabaoth on 14-06-2009 16:06
Disclaimer: The above post reflects just the personal opinion of the author and not a fact. But if you read it, you must accept it as the ultimate truth.
 
mowinckel91
Now that i've watched Dauphine Libere im pretty sure Contador will be this years winner of the tour!
 
doddy13
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heh it looks like a bear. Colmar being the head.
There's no point slapping a schleck - Sean Kelly on "Who needs a slap"
 
alexkr00
a female bear.
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wackojackohighcliffe
yeah that was in cycle sport
 
Guido Mukk
Good that he is not riding..
"Valverde prepared to help Contador - at the Tour"...
What is this anyway? I remember Italians start to work together when they need to play against some other rider..but Italians have been always bastards in any sport.
But even they did not never talked about it in public.
 
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