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Vuelta al PaÃs Vasco/Euskal Herriko Itzulia/Tour of the Basque Country
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 10-04-2009 16:16
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And Swift again. |
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| Juan |
Posted on 10-04-2009 16:16
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3 wins in 2 days B)
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| issoisso |
Posted on 10-04-2009 16:18
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CrueTrue wrote:
And Swift again.
Yes, Pinotti was quite swift in his attack.
(I'm just trying to piss off an englishman or two by refusing to acknowledge the brit  ) |
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| lagetcher |
Posted on 10-04-2009 16:22
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Swift is so unlucky not to have had a stage win by now. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 10-04-2009 16:24
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lagetcher wrote:
Swift is so unlucky not to have had a stage win by now.
He's barely the only sprinter in the race. He would deserve it if it were a real bunch sprint or if he won from a break, IMO. And now I'm not joking.
Edited by issoisso on 10-04-2009 16:24
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| issoisso |
Posted on 10-04-2009 16:26
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So, with a 24kms ITT coming up, it's Contador's race to lose.
Evans and Sánchez have outside chances. |
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| lagetcher |
Posted on 10-04-2009 16:29
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issoisso wrote:
lagetcher wrote:
Swift is so unlucky not to have had a stage win by now.
He's barely the only sprinter in the race. He would deserve it if it were a real bunch sprint or if he won from a break, IMO. And now I'm not joking.
Ok. We'll never know what the outcome would have been in the scenario of a bunch sprint for the three stages where breakaways have survived.
Edited by lagetcher on 10-04-2009 16:30
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| issoisso |
Posted on 10-04-2009 17:22
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As most years, there's some major climbing in this time trial. I'll be very very surprised if Contador doesn't win it.
EDIT: The exact same route, meter for meter was used in 2006.
The results:
1 José Angel Gomez Marchante (Spa) Saunier Duval-Prodir 32.44
2 Alejandro Valverde (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne-Illes Balears 0.06
3 Antonio Colom (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne-Illes Balears 0.08
4 Evgeni Petrov (Rus) Lampre-Fondital 0.16
5 Patrik Sinkewitz (Ger) T-Mobile Team 0.18
6 Janez Brajkovic (Slo) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team
7 Carlos Sastre (Spa) Team CSC 0.28
8 Alberto Contador (Spa) Liberty Seguros-Würth Team 0.29
9 Juan Jose Cobo (Spa) Saunier Duval-Prodir 0.36
10 Andriy Grivko (Ukr) Team Milram 0.37
11 Jason Mccartney (USA) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team
12 Sandy Casar (Fra) Française des Jeux 0.39
13 M. A. Martin Perdiguero (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems 0.45
14 Sylvain Chavanel (Fra) Cofidis, le Credit par Telephone 0.47
15 Samuel Sanchez (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 0.51
16 Stefano Garzelli (Ita) Liquigas 0.52
17 Sergio Ghisalberti (Ita) Team Milram 0.56
18 Mikel Astarloza (Spa) AG2R Prevoyance 0.57
19 Sergio Paulinho (Por) Liberty Seguros-Würth Team 0.58
20 Thomas Dekker (Ned) Rabobank 1.04
21 Didier Rous (Fra) Bouygues Telecom 1.05
22 José Azevedo (Por) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 1.08
23 Francisco Javier Vila (Spa) Lampre-Fondital 1.10
24 Christopher Horner (USA) Davitamon-Lotto
25 Juan Manuel Garate (Spa) Quick Step-Innergetic 1.12
26 Jens Voigt (Ger) Team CSC 1.16
27 Cadel Evans (Aus) Davitamon-Lotto 1.18
28 Nicki Sorensen (Den) Team CSC 1.20
29 Michael Blaudzun (Den) Team CSC
30 Arkaitz Duran (Spa) Saunier Duval-Prodir 1.22
Edited by issoisso on 10-04-2009 17:24
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| Juan |
Posted on 10-04-2009 17:25
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issoisso wrote:
As most years, there's some major climbing in this time trial. I'll be very very surprised if Contador doesn't win it.
sure, guys like Sanchez and Evans can't win such a TT
conta-made TT |
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 10-04-2009 17:33
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I don't like Pinotti's face
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| raar1991 |
Posted on 10-04-2009 17:44
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issoisso wrote:
As most years, there's some major climbing in this time trial. I'll be very very surprised if Contador doesn't win it.
EDIT: The exact same route, meter for meter was used in 2006.
The results:
1 José Angel Gomez Marchante (Spa) Saunier Duval-Prodir 32.44
2 Alejandro Valverde (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne-Illes Balears 0.06
3 Antonio Colom (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne-Illes Balears 0.08
4 Evgeni Petrov (Rus) Lampre-Fondital 0.16
5 Patrik Sinkewitz (Ger) T-Mobile Team 0.18
6 Janez Brajkovic (Slo) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team
7 Carlos Sastre (Spa) Team CSC 0.28
8 Alberto Contador (Spa) Liberty Seguros-Würth Team 0.29
9 Juan Jose Cobo (Spa) Saunier Duval-Prodir 0.36
10 Andriy Grivko (Ukr) Team Milram 0.37
11 Jason Mccartney (USA) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team
12 Sandy Casar (Fra) Française des Jeux 0.39
13 M. A. Martin Perdiguero (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems 0.45
14 Sylvain Chavanel (Fra) Cofidis, le Credit par Telephone 0.47
15 Samuel Sanchez (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 0.51
16 Stefano Garzelli (Ita) Liquigas 0.52
17 Sergio Ghisalberti (Ita) Team Milram 0.56
18 Mikel Astarloza (Spa) AG2R Prevoyance 0.57
19 Sergio Paulinho (Por) Liberty Seguros-Würth Team 0.58
20 Thomas Dekker (Ned) Rabobank 1.04
21 Didier Rous (Fra) Bouygues Telecom 1.05
22 José Azevedo (Por) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 1.08
23 Francisco Javier Vila (Spa) Lampre-Fondital 1.10
24 Christopher Horner (USA) Davitamon-Lotto
25 Juan Manuel Garate (Spa) Quick Step-Innergetic 1.12
26 Jens Voigt (Ger) Team CSC 1.16
27 Cadel Evans (Aus) Davitamon-Lotto 1.18
28 Nicki Sorensen (Den) Team CSC 1.20
29 Michael Blaudzun (Den) Team CSC
30 Arkaitz Duran (Spa) Saunier Duval-Prodir 1.22
3 Antonio Colom (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne-Illes Balears 0.08
8 Alberto Contador (Spa) Liberty Seguros-Würth Team 0.29
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| Juan |
Posted on 10-04-2009 19:37
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raar1991 wrote:
issoisso wrote:
As most years, there's some major climbing in this time trial. I'll be very very surprised if Contador doesn't win it.
EDIT: The exact same route, meter for meter was used in 2006.
The results:
1 José Angel Gomez Marchante (Spa) Saunier Duval-Prodir 32.44
2 Alejandro Valverde (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne-Illes Balears 0.06
3 Antonio Colom (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne-Illes Balears 0.08
4 Evgeni Petrov (Rus) Lampre-Fondital 0.16
5 Patrik Sinkewitz (Ger) T-Mobile Team 0.18
6 Janez Brajkovic (Slo) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team
7 Carlos Sastre (Spa) Team CSC 0.28
8 Alberto Contador (Spa) Liberty Seguros-Würth Team 0.29
9 Juan Jose Cobo (Spa) Saunier Duval-Prodir 0.36
10 Andriy Grivko (Ukr) Team Milram 0.37
11 Jason Mccartney (USA) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team
12 Sandy Casar (Fra) Française des Jeux 0.39
13 M. A. Martin Perdiguero (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems 0.45
14 Sylvain Chavanel (Fra) Cofidis, le Credit par Telephone 0.47
15 Samuel Sanchez (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 0.51
16 Stefano Garzelli (Ita) Liquigas 0.52
17 Sergio Ghisalberti (Ita) Team Milram 0.56
18 Mikel Astarloza (Spa) AG2R Prevoyance 0.57
19 Sergio Paulinho (Por) Liberty Seguros-Würth Team 0.58
20 Thomas Dekker (Ned) Rabobank 1.04
21 Didier Rous (Fra) Bouygues Telecom 1.05
22 José Azevedo (Por) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 1.08
23 Francisco Javier Vila (Spa) Lampre-Fondital 1.10
24 Christopher Horner (USA) Davitamon-Lotto
25 Juan Manuel Garate (Spa) Quick Step-Innergetic 1.12
26 Jens Voigt (Ger) Team CSC 1.16
27 Cadel Evans (Aus) Davitamon-Lotto 1.18
28 Nicki Sorensen (Den) Team CSC 1.20
29 Michael Blaudzun (Den) Team CSC
30 Arkaitz Duran (Spa) Saunier Duval-Prodir 1.22
3 Antonio Colom (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne-Illes Balears 0.08
8 Alberto Contador (Spa) Liberty Seguros-Würth Team 0.29
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just think that Contador improved quite his TT skills  |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 10-04-2009 19:40
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raar1991 wrote:
3 Antonio Colom (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne-Illes Balears 0.08
8 Alberto Contador (Spa) Liberty Seguros-Würth Team 0.29
^^
You're looking at it the other way around: Contador was off form that year, didn't feature in the race at all.....and despite the bad form, he still managed 8th in the time trial.
That's another strong argument towards "the course favours him". Anyway, whichever way you look at the results, the conclusion will always be the same: the course is for climbers, not for time trialists.
Juan wrote:
just think that Contador improved quite his TT skills
Not that much.
In fact.....
2005 results (different course)
1 Alberto Contador (Spa) Liberty Seguros-Würth Team 13.43
2 Bobby Julich (USA) Team CSC 0.05
3 Davide Rebellin (Ita) Gerolsteiner 0.08
4 Danilo Di Luca (Ita) Liquigas-Bianchi 0.09
5 Oscar Pereiro (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems 0.11
6 Michael Rogers (Aus) Quick Step 0.13
7 Angel Vicioso (Spa) Liberty Seguros-Würth Team 0.15
8 Michael Boogerd (Ned) Rabobank 0.20
9 Ricardo Serrano (Spa) Kaiku 0.22
10 Aitor Osa (Spa) Illes Balears-Caisse d'Epargne 0.24
11 Kurt-Asle Arvesen (Nor) Team CSC 0.27
12 Cadel Evans (Aus) Davitamon-Lotto 0.28
13 Damiano Cunego (Ita) Lampre-Caffita 0.29
14 Tom Danielson (USA) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team
15 Levi Leipheimer (USA) Gerolsteiner
16 Bradley Mcgee (Aus) Française Des Jeux 0.32
17 Denis Menchov (Rus) Rabobank 0.33
18 David Etxebarria (Spa) Liberty Seguros-Würth Team 0.34
19 Dario Frigo (Ita) Fassa Bortolo 0.41
20 José Luis Rubiera (Spa) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 0.43 |
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Posted on 10-04-2009 19:45
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issoisso wrote:
Juan wrote:
just think that Contador improved quite his TT skills
Not that much.
In fact.....
2005 results (different course)
1 Alberto Contador (Spa) Liberty Seguros-Würth Team 13.43
2 Bobby Julich (USA) Team CSC 0.05
3 Davide Rebellin (Ita) Gerolsteiner 0.08
4 Danilo Di Luca (Ita) Liquigas-Bianchi 0.09
5 Oscar Pereiro (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems 0.11
6 Michael Rogers (Aus) Quick Step 0.13
7 Angel Vicioso (Spa) Liberty Seguros-Würth Team 0.15
8 Michael Boogerd (Ned) Rabobank 0.20
9 Ricardo Serrano (Spa) Kaiku 0.22
10 Aitor Osa (Spa) Illes Balears-Caisse d'Epargne 0.24
11 Kurt-Asle Arvesen (Nor) Team CSC 0.27
12 Cadel Evans (Aus) Davitamon-Lotto 0.28
13 Damiano Cunego (Ita) Lampre-Caffita 0.29
14 Tom Danielson (USA) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team
15 Levi Leipheimer (USA) Gerolsteiner
16 Bradley Mcgee (Aus) Française Des Jeux 0.32
17 Denis Menchov (Rus) Rabobank 0.33
18 David Etxebarria (Spa) Liberty Seguros-Würth Team 0.34
19 Dario Frigo (Ita) Fassa Bortolo 0.41
20 José Luis Rubiera (Spa) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 0.43
The thing is that i really can't see how Contador could be beaten (even though i'd be happy if he was )
this is the TT for Contador, hilly, more for climbers with TT skills than for TT specialist, like Evans |
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Posted on 10-04-2009 20:10
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Pinotti is a really classy rider.
Why did so many pull out today?
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| raar1991 |
Posted on 10-04-2009 20:13
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Before race Conta said that he is very tired and don't know what his form will be on Saturday, so we will see  |
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Posted on 10-04-2009 20:19
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raar1991 wrote:
Before race Conta said that he is very tired and don't know what his form will be on Saturday, so we will see
Yes,he says he won't race again untill the Dauphine.
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Posted on 10-04-2009 23:49
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Swift is really coming on strong, shows he can get over some climbs and have a kick. Will be a stud! |
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| schleck93 |
Posted on 11-04-2009 08:04
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issoisso wrote:
As most years, there's some major climbing in this time trial. I'll be very very surprised if Contador doesn't win it.
You'll owe me the PCM$ I've bettet on that if he loses!
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| Wiggo |
Posted on 11-04-2009 10:34
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alexkr00 wrote:
Pinotti's ugly mug.
I don't like Pinotti's face
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