The change, that seems to be his message, but he doesn't seem to have any idea what he wants to change or what he wants to change it too. Also we don't have any real history for him, i.e. what his opinions on certain issues are. So i reckon better the devil you know.
When Obama is elected president he will have a supportive, democratic congress. Therefore the policy's implemented under the Obama administration will be those reflected within the Democratic platform. https://www.democrats.org/a/party/plat...tform.html
That is what you should expect.
As for voting for the devil we know I think we know that devil too well.
Edited by Levi4life on 17-10-2008 23:16
As interested as I am in reading a 58 page document i really can't be bothered. I did search for health care and thier policy says cheap health care for all and says this will save people $2,500 each but gives no actually structure for this system. For a fundemental policy, that is pretty poor. Hence, i doubt anything will happen on that ground, I will look through for the economic plan later to see what they plan to do about that.
The dems national healthcare plan is quite simple. Basically if your employer already gives you health care coverage then you keep that coverage. If you do not have healthcare through an employer or famil etc, then you can apply to be provided a healthcare plan from the government. Under this healthcare plan you would get the same coverage as a federal employee.
What sickens me is when McCain says that under the DNC platform plan we would be like England or Canada. He says it like its a bad thing. In Canada you get sick, walk into a hospital, get treated and walk out. Taxes pay the bill. Sounds pretty good to me. And correct me if I am wrong but that is how the rest of western industrial nations do it, and they are well off.
Edited by Levi4life on 18-10-2008 08:06
Yeah, USA must be one of the only Western countries left which still are very, very liberal when it comes to 'the size of the government' (I suppose there's a better term than that).
Either way, it would require a huge change in the Americans' way of thinking if this is to change. I noticed how everyone are talking about taxes, and how both candidates want to lower the taxes -- believe me, if you want the other Western countries' welfare system, you will have to pay more tax money
Levi4life wrote:
The dems national healthcare plan is quite simple. Basically if your employer already gives you health care coverage then you keep that coverage. If you do not have healthcare through an employer or famil etc, then you can apply to be provided a healthcare plan from the government. Under this healthcare plan you would get the same coverage as a federal employee.
What sickens me is when McCain says that under the DNC platform plan we would be like England or Canada. He says it like its a bad thing. In Canada you get sick, walk into a hospital, get treated and walk out. Taxes pay the bill. Sounds pretty good to me. And correct me if I am wrong but that is how the rest of western industrial nations do it, and they are well off.
Why on earth would any employer continue to give health care, that will end up costing loads on money, which the US can't really afford
So employers stop paying for healthcare insurance and therefore make more money. and enrich the populace right?(classic trickle down reagan economics not that reagans plan ever worked)
The system we have now is that when 10's of millions of people cannot afford healthcare insurance they still go to the hospital, and when they can't pay, the bill shows up on the American taxpayers door step.
no that is a criticism of Reagan economics. They simply don't work. I just forgot the [sarcasm/] smily. Some people cannot be swayed by logic. One way or the other taxpayers pay for healthcare. Why not cut out the wasteful middlemen.
By my standards Obama's plan is conservative
Also I saw a bit of this on CNN (because I would never see it on "Fair and Balanced" Fox)
America: Were you can think and say whatever you want to, even if your head is shoved so far up your ass your eyebrows are burned off by your stomach acid. And to think THESE people can vote and I cannot.
Anyone else throw up in their mouths?
Biden '08! cause those dumbfucks in the above video will assassinate Obama.
that is a great video to show how many people would kill him if he be came president. It is so sad how IGNORANT those people are. There are people who actually believe he is Muslim because of his name. They say he is born in Kenya and Africa but actually he was born in Hawaii. People shouted off with his head in McCain rallies. https://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/poli...etter.kcal
(On a different topic. Go to NBC and watch all the Saturday Night Live Politics Skits.)
I understood you were being sarcastic, i just was being sarcasxtic back. Biden is trouble though. When he ran for president in 1980 he made a speach on how amazing it was that he had been the first from his family to come out of the mines and go to university. The only problem? A British Prime Ministerial candidate had made the same speach a couple of weeks before, it was being quoted verbatum. Oh, and his family was middle class and hadn't been in the mines for 80 years.
mb2612 wrote:
I understood you were being sarcastic, i just was being sarcasxtic back. Biden is trouble though. When he ran for president in 1980 he made a speach on how amazing it was that he had been the first from his family to come out of the mines and go to university. The only problem? A British Prime Ministerial candidate had made the same speach a couple of weeks before, it was being quoted verbatum. Oh, and his family was middle class and hadn't been in the mines for 80 years.
Does that make him a worse vice president than Palin?
