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| Riis123 |
Posted on 11-04-2015 20:54
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Shonak wrote:
Ion has by now turned into an ace for week-long stage races for quite some years now. Hoping he'll win one soon. Maybe Tour of Pologne this year since that's sorta the race that seems to suit him best. 
"Team-wise, we leave with that bittersweet taste, but looking at myself, I think I took a step forward in my career. Making it onto the podium in my home race, with such a strong field of contenders, makes me mentally stronger to keep doing my work. You become more mature after all this years in the pro peloton, and that pays off when you race important courses - I feel more solid, and having a team like this by your side makes things even easier. Now it's time to enjoy this result and then, we will start thinking about the Giro. I'm raring to go after this race - let's see what we can achieve in Italy."
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Gora Euskadi!
Sure he gonna do the Giro though? I always thought they wanted to send him to France, or atleast that what I hoped since Lobato, Fernandez and Intxausti could be given the opportunity to lead there |
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| Smowz |
Posted on 11-04-2015 21:33
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Certainly enjoyed some of the edition of Basque. Big race for the likes of Henao, izagirre, Yates and Zakarin. Four guys with a lot of potential for further results.
Purito adds a decent one to his palmaries and rode a really nice chrono and rode the race like a clever master strategist. To be honest the dope Katusha nay Sayers clearly have not been watching races and are just dope trolls. Katusha leaders Paolini, Kristoff and purito have been riding strong and smart.
Some questions for Quintana not quite being at his best. still ground out a decent result though but shows the guy is certainly not moved to indestructible territory.
Izagirre gave very commanding super Dom performance but not sure seen enough for him to be GT leader, Movistar do not tend to rush their guys so we shall see. Not sure what's next for Yates, Ardennes? Giro? Should be fun following them.
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 11-04-2015 22:10
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Almost positive that Ion doesnt have GC-potential. MAYBE a top-10 someday in either the Giro or Vuelta, but he doesnt like longer mountains. Happy if he someday proces me wrong, but right now, 1 week races should be his goals imo. |
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| Strydz |
Posted on 11-04-2015 22:21
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asoutar wrote:
I think Quintana's time trial ability is slightly overrated.
I don't think Quintana has been overrated in the TT at all (outside of fanboys that is) We are only in April, he won the overall in T-A and did well enough here. The target is Le Tour and we aren't talking Valverde or Team Sky here and season longs peaks aren't the norm. To me Quintana looks on point and ready to rock'n'roll come July.
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| fidjim2013 |
Posted on 11-04-2015 22:21
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serious time to question purito about doping. This guy was never good in TT |
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| Strydz |
Posted on 11-04-2015 22:24
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fidjim2013 wrote:
serious time to question purito about doping. This guy was never good in TT
Only now is time to question Purito in regards to doping? I think most of his career stinks of it but his performance here isn't that out of the ordinary. Not really a classic TT now is it?
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 11-04-2015 22:27
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Purito does this kind of stuff all the time, fidjim. This might be a bit high but his form is right atm.
Take a look at his hilly Vuelta TTs, for instance 
Or better, TdF 2013.
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| asoutar |
Posted on 11-04-2015 22:30
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Strydz wrote:
asoutar wrote:
I think Quintana's time trial ability is slightly overrated.
I don't think Quintana has been overrated in the TT at all (outside of fanboys that is) We are only in April, he won the overall in T-A and did well enough here. The target is Le Tour and we aren't talking Valverde or Team Sky here and season longs peaks aren't the norm. To me Quintana looks on point and ready to rock'n'roll come July.
People think he's better at TTs because he won the one in the Giro last year but without realising that was a pure climber TT - Outside the forum obviously. |
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| ruben |
Posted on 11-04-2015 22:48
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Riis123 wrote:
Dumoulin is a damn big talent. He has the same slim figure as Wiggins when he won the Tour and I am interesting in seeing him eventually wanting more than just week long stage races and ardennes - think he has the potential to more, especially if he is presented with a Tour 2012-alike route a few year down the road.
And yes, generally Izaguirre is a better time trialist than Quintana on flatter courses, although he likes them hilly as well, but nobody can claim they thought Izaguirre would beat Quintana that much today since he won a similar TT 2 years ago. Probably a mix between Q not feeling too well and Ion beasting this race. The strategy should be the same in Romandie, Quintana the captain and Ion still being able to make a good result himself as those kinda races are his forté
Dumoulin is not enough climber for that. Not even if he loses more weight and focusses on climbing. I think that would hurt his TT ability too much.
It's amazing he wins exactly this type of ITT though. Would not expect that. Especially because he won most of his time in the 2nd part, which was the hardest part. He'll be ready for the Ardennes that's for sure |
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 11-04-2015 22:50
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Jesleyh wrote:
It was obviously just a mix. Too tough for Tony but not for Tom. Mainly hills specialists instead of pure TTists, but lets not forget Dumoulin is not a bad climber at all.
Actually curious how his Ardennes will go.
Dumoulin was chilling in the bunch waiting for this stage, being fresh. Tony was all guns blazing attacking previous 2 stages, gotta be fatigued from that. |
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 11-04-2015 23:26
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asoutar wrote:
Strydz wrote:
asoutar wrote:
I think Quintana's time trial ability is slightly overrated.
I don't think Quintana has been overrated in the TT at all (outside of fanboys that is) We are only in April, he won the overall in T-A and did well enough here. The target is Le Tour and we aren't talking Valverde or Team Sky here and season longs peaks aren't the norm. To me Quintana looks on point and ready to rock'n'roll come July.
People think he's better at TTs because he won the one in the Giro last year but without realising that was a pure climber TT - Outside the forum obviously.
Who does that? Anyone in their right mind knows that it was a mountain ITT and doesnt use it at all as an argument.... as far as I know
ruben: Just saying he looks as lean as Wiggo and can timetrial almost as well, right now better. And Wiggo didnt exactly get worse when he became a climber as well..... |
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| Shonak |
Posted on 12-04-2015 04:40
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Riis123 wrote:
Shonak wrote:
Ion has by now turned into an ace for week-long stage races for quite some years now. Hoping he'll win one soon. Maybe Tour of Pologne this year since that's sorta the race that seems to suit him best.
"Team-wise, we leave with that bittersweet taste, but looking at myself, I think I took a step forward in my career. Making it onto the podium in my home race, with such a strong field of contenders, makes me mentally stronger to keep doing my work. You become more mature after all this years in the pro peloton, and that pays off when you race important courses - I feel more solid, and having a team like this by your side makes things even easier. Now it's time to enjoy this result and then, we will start thinking about the Giro. I'm raring to go after this race - let's see what we can achieve in Italy."
https://www.cyclin...ais_vasco/
Gora Euskadi!
Sure he gonna do the Giro though? I always thought they wanted to send him to France, or atleast that what I hoped since Lobato, Fernandez and Intxausti could be given the opportunity to lead there
Yeah mate, I'm pretty sure we talked about it already in the GC thread that Intxausti and Izagirre would do double-leadership for Giro. It also makes sense since both of them have proven themselves in Giro already and both deserve to be more than "super domestiques".
Italy will be all spanish with Contador getting the GC and the basques hunting down stage wins.  Dreaming big obviously but like you said, Izagirre isn't Grand Tour material and is best used for traditional stage hunting or dom. duties in the Big Three.
fidjim2013 wrote:
serious time to question purito about doping. This guy was never good in TT
Uh, time to observe the stage profile of that TT.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 12-04-2015 06:12
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Smowz wrote:
To be honest the dope Katusha nay Sayers clearly have not been watching races and are just dope trolls. Katusha leaders Paolini, Kristoff and purito have been riding strong and smart.
To be honest,reading this from one of my Daily favourite members is sad. It feels like when Armstrong was target of doping talks and these talks were slammed by many.
Good to know that only the Katusha riders are riding strong and smart (in a season when the team contract could be terminated), others are riding weak and stupid i suppose?
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| Smowz |
Posted on 12-04-2015 07:14
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@avin:
I haven't got my head in the sand. The Armstrong era was laced with hypocrisy. Actually the vast majority of forum users would quickly damn Armstring and Postal for being obvious dopers. But everyone else like ullrich, basso and Pantani were heralded as heroes.
It's that pick and choose mentality I see with Sky and recently Katusha. One of their riders do well guys go dope dope dope. A guy from another team does well they go brilliant. I call nibali and Narito the hypocrites choice here.
Pauline's gent wegulum win was smart riding, winning when not the strongest. Kristoff jumping on Terpstras wheel at de ronde again was a well judged moment when Sky, Bmc were on the rivet, Purito here rode on henao's wheel when he had to.
As I say this month of success from Katusha, it is completely ridiculous to make out they have found some super doping technique that other teams don't have access to that explains all victories.
Interesting point about Katusha last year though - Kristoff is going to be quite the free agent, return to BMC?
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