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| moriz1 |
Posted on 20-08-2014 18:19
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interesting: Red Bull now have 4 time WC Vettel and Ricciardo, who looks even stronger than him this season. Their developement team Toro Rosso next year have Vestappen, a 16 year old super talent and kvyat, also (according to Franz Tost) a "potential future WC". Unfortunately, only two cockpits with victory chances are available. Luxury problem.......  |
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 20-08-2014 19:52
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I thought Kobayashi was doing pretty decent for Caterham really. There are 22 drivers in the field and he's never finished worse than 18th when he has finished, for a car that is far and away in the bottom 2 teams. Personally think he's better than Ericsson too.
And about Verstappen, I suspect the move is mostly made because Red Bull are having a bad season. They needed to have a huge talent signed up before another top team signed him up for themselves. Its more about the future than next season.
Personally I think its a bad move for him career wise though. Vettel and Ricciardo are both pretty young and I doubt either of them move on in the next 2 to 4 years, meaning Kvyat or Verstappen both have a lot less chance of moving up to a bigger team before they are replaced, just like former "great talents" on the Toro Rosso team have found out.
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 20-08-2014 23:16
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Will Vestappen's car have L-Plates  |
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 21-08-2014 15:53
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Alexander Rossi to replace Max Chilton at Marussia this weekend because of money issues. |
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Posted on 21-08-2014 16:06
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valverde321 wrote:
I thought Kobayashi was doing pretty decent for Caterham really. There are 22 drivers in the field and he's never finished worse than 18th when he has finished, for a car that is far and away in the bottom 2 teams. Personally think he's better than Ericsson too.
And about Verstappen, I suspect the move is mostly made because Red Bull are having a bad season. They needed to have a huge talent signed up before another top team signed him up for themselves. Its more about the future than next season.
Personally I think its a bad move for him career wise though. Vettel and Ricciardo are both pretty young and I doubt either of them move on in the next 2 to 4 years, meaning Kvyat or Verstappen both have a lot less chance of moving up to a bigger team before they are replaced, just like former "great talents" on the Toro Rosso team have found out.
Much better.
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Posted on 24-08-2014 21:45
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Posted on 24-08-2014 21:48
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Hamilton = biggest whiner on the paddock
Mercedes = best team in team communications 
since I'm unable to find the right thread, my post from the 2013 season (accidently)
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Mercedes are absolutly brilliant at team communications while Hamilton is just the best at whining 
edit: I like Jordan as an interviewer 
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 25-08-2014 21:16
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So, kind of a joke that Magnussen is the only (afaik) driver to leave Spa with a penalty. I think what he did was borderline, and no actual collision was caused. On the other hand, what Rosberg did, what Bianchi and Maldonado did, what Vettel did to cut off Alonso on turn 1 on lap 43 all of those went without even an investigation. I mean what Vettel did easily could have been a penalty as well imo, and same with Rosberg.
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| SoRaiden |
Posted on 25-08-2014 21:29
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I actually disagree with everybody saying that Rosberg deserves a penalty. Yes, he might've avoided that collision but on the other hand, Hamilton gave him nearly no room and just turned in the corner without looking (he had the right sorta, because Rosberg never was really ahead of Hamilton). So in my opinion, this is a racing incident. And it should stay that way. We need more hard racing and the drivers need to stop whining about everything *cough* Alonso-Vettel Silverstone *cough* Hamilton *cough* If I have to chose someone to blame, it would be Rosberg. But I still think that it is not worth a penalty
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 25-08-2014 21:40
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SoRaiden wrote:
I actually disagree with everybody saying that Rosberg deserves a penalty. Yes, he might've avoided that collision but on the other hand, Hamilton gave him nearly no room and just turned in the corner without looking (he had the right sorta, because Rosberg never was really ahead of Hamilton). So in my opinion, this is a racing incident. And it should stay that way. We need more hard racing and the drivers need to stop whining about everything *cough* Alonso-Vettel Silverstone *cough* Hamilton *cough* If I have to chose someone to blame, it would be Rosberg. But I still think that it is not worth a penalty
Well he deserves a penalty if he did do it on purpose for sure. The leading car is allowed to take the racing line. Its on Rosberg in that situation and he made contact with Hamilton essentially taking him out of the race. I think it could have warranted a penalty definitely. In the past I seem to recall team-mate collisions were certainly more up for investigation, so its quite odd that this wasn't at the least.
Also I dont like how the stewards have even come out and said they are being more lenient about penalties in the middle of the season. Decisions they've made earlier in the year that have dropped drivers down in points have affected this season and now not staying consistent isn't fair in my eyes.
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| wogsrus |
Posted on 25-08-2014 21:48
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Great win by Ricciardo, class above. |
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 25-08-2014 22:09
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valverde321 wrote:
SoRaiden wrote:
I actually disagree with everybody saying that Rosberg deserves a penalty. Yes, he might've avoided that collision but on the other hand, Hamilton gave him nearly no room and just turned in the corner without looking (he had the right sorta, because Rosberg never was really ahead of Hamilton). So in my opinion, this is a racing incident. And it should stay that way. We need more hard racing and the drivers need to stop whining about everything *cough* Alonso-Vettel Silverstone *cough* Hamilton *cough* If I have to chose someone to blame, it would be Rosberg. But I still think that it is not worth a penalty
Well he deserves a penalty if he did do it on purpose for sure. The leading car is allowed to take the racing line. Its on Rosberg in that situation and he made contact with Hamilton essentially taking him out of the race. I think it could have warranted a penalty definitely. In the past I seem to recall team-mate collisions were certainly more up for investigation, so its quite odd that this wasn't at the least.
Also I dont like how the stewards have even come out and said they are being more lenient about penalties in the middle of the season. Decisions they've made earlier in the year that have dropped drivers down in points have affected this season and now not staying consistent isn't fair in my eyes.
Well, Rosberg did it to prove a point to Hamilton and the team: but Mercedes as an all is just, well, I hope Ricciardo wins the title with double points. Mercedes deserve it for all the nonsense they have done all this year. For Hamilton whinging, to Rosberg doing this, to then both the team principals (Wolff and Lauda) putting the blame to Rosberg is just, well, dumb. Lauda seems more biased towards Hamilton, while Wolff seems to be a little bit indeferent as long as they win. Then, obviously, you have Hamilton fanboys... I don't even need to start on that. There we're some wanting on Twitter that Rosberg was killed.... This situation rings the bell of a certain situation back in 2007... That involved Hamilton. |
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| SSJ2Luigi |
Posted on 25-08-2014 22:18
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Hamilton proved that he is biggest baby on the paddock. he basically said multiple times "can we please retire, I don't wanne race anymore". getting more annoyed each time the team said "no you can't, we might get something out of it". if I recall correctly at one point he was slower then Ericsson constantly. just because it doesn't go his way.
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| SoRaiden |
Posted on 25-08-2014 22:27
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wogsrus wrote:
Great win by Ricciardo, class above.
For the people who dont know: Ricciardo is the one who won that race where Rosberg and Hamilton hit eachother 
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 25-08-2014 22:29
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SSJ2Luigi wrote:
Hamilton proved that he is biggest baby on the paddock. he basically said multiple times "can we please retire, I don't wanne race anymore". getting more annoyed each time the team said "no you can't, we might get something out of it". if I recall correctly at one point he was slower then Ericsson constantly. just because it doesn't go his way.
You should quote him correctly 
He wanted to save the engine. Its likely most teams will be running quite thin on engines by the end of the year. He wasn't in contention for anything at all today. Its better to save the engine and avoid a 10 place grid penalty later in the year than drive it around at its limit for an extra hour and a half when it isn't really going to give the team a single point out of that effort.
Its him admitting defeat on one day, but he's thinking long term which is honestly a sign to me that he has matured as a driver, despite some of his vocal frustration caught on radio or in interviews. In my opinion he's had the right to be upset most of the times he has been this year. Most drivers are boring and dont really say much when something bad happens. Soon F1 will be a bunch of boring robots, and for the record, Im not a Hamilton fan, although I prefer him to Rosberg.
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| SSJ2Luigi |
Posted on 25-08-2014 22:45
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well I just translated what he said in code into what he actually meant .
saving the engine seems to be a stupid excuse. that would mean that without any problems in a season, they would still have a 10 place grid penalty because of they are out of engines.
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 25-08-2014 22:53
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SSJ2Luigi wrote:
well I just translated what he said in code into what he actually meant .
saving the engine seems to be a stupid excuse. that would mean that without any problems in a season, they would still have a 10 place grid penalty because of they are out of engines.
That is only speculation on your part though We can only go by the words he actually used
And well actually, as stated in the rules, each team can only use 5 engines instead of last years 8, so I think it is a decent excuse honestly. Engines also have to last twice as long.
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| sammyt93 |
Posted on 25-08-2014 23:05
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Having now watched the race I believe Rosberg deserved a penalty. It was his mistake, he was never going to go around the outside of the corner there and should have either backed off or if he couldn't then he should have used the escape road like Vettel did on the first lap.
However I think he only deserved a penalty because Hamilton came off worse. If I was the stewards I'd penalise drivers mistakes, even if you could call them racing incidents if another driver came off worse then them, however if Hamilton's car was fine and it was only Rosberg's wing that was damaged then I'd have said no penalty as he would have come off worst from his mistake.
And I think the only reason Magnusson got a penalty is because he ran cars off the road more then once, He arguably did it to Alonso into Les Coombes, although the camera was half behind the trees so you can't see if he's moving out from behind the Caterham or actually trying to defend the place. And he did it to both Alonso and Button on the exit of the following hairpin.
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| atlanta |
Posted on 29-08-2014 00:04
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Yeah i would be a whinger too, how the hell does being slower than Ericsson not tell you something? You seriously think Hamilton's car was not damaged. Almost every time you do a lap on a puncture it damages the floor of the car. And who was right by the way? It was that little whiner Hamilton who was right.
How hard isit for people to understand 2 more DNF than Ros, 2 first qually session incidents. He should be leading the WC even before Spa incident. People fail to realise how costly those qually incidents were it basically puts him with no chance of a a win. How do we know how Ger and Hungary would have went with Ham on front row? Two sessions in a row his car catches fire and his breaks failed no one has had this bad luck in a car like this for years.
Life must be easy for Ros the guy starts the season with 25 pts advantage Ham has played catchup all year. I mean seriously you guys are just haters if you cant see he is unlucky. He as won more races while being classifed 2 times less than Nico.
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Posted on 29-08-2014 00:10
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Which makes it all more stupid Kmag gets a pen what did that cost Alo exactly? Same in Mal Mag had a 5 sec pen for puncturing Kimi
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