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EPIC - Season break 1
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| Cycleman123 |
Posted on 21-01-2014 20:18
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Wait, what did Atlantius say?
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| Atlantius |
Posted on 21-01-2014 20:30
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Cycleman123 wrote:
Wait, what did Atlantius say?
The Euskaltel - Euskadi management is starting a race series open for all riders from the greater Basque region (Euskadi, Navarre and Aquitaine) with the first race coming sometime this season break and then followed by 1 race each break as well as possibly an occasional race of a different type when I feel like it.
All teams with an eligible rider have recieved an invitation to participate in their HQ-thread today, which is why Shonak's comment in this thread seems very out of context 
I'm considering opening for individual riders doing well in certain races relevant to the area, but more details on that will come tomorrow as the idea is evolving a bit in my head at the moment.
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| Cycleman123 |
Posted on 21-01-2014 21:06
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Seems good. Too bad I don't have a Basque rider  Are Euskaltel riders (Anton etc.) involved, because that would make it pretty unfair imo.
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| knockout |
Posted on 21-01-2014 21:08
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Cycleman123 wrote:
Seems good. Too bad I don't have a Basque rider Are Euskaltel riders (Anton etc.) involved, because that would make it pretty unfair imo.
IMO they should be involved. Otherwise the break will win
There are other good riders around as well. E.g. Intxausti from my movistar team
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| Atlantius |
Posted on 21-01-2014 21:16
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knockout wrote:
Cycleman123 wrote:
Seems good. Too bad I don't have a Basque rider Are Euskaltel riders (Anton etc.) involved, because that would make it pretty unfair imo.
IMO they should be involved. Otherwise the break will win
There are other good riders around as well. E.g. Intxausti from my movistar team
Exactly. Euskaltel riders are obviously involved, but are split into three (one for each sub-region) to avoid one massively overpowered team.
I just ran a quick test-run to make sure verything worked properly and turned into a decent race with the best Euskaltel rider on 3rd, so it shouldn't be to much of a domination show. In the test-run Movistar wasn't even part as I had only added riders confirmed at the time to the startlist.
About 75 riders in total will take part (if noone declines).
I might make a twist with guest appearances for riders doing something in races like Vuelta al PaÃs Vasco allowing more teams to occasionally take part, but more will follow on that tomorrow.
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| Cycleman123 |
Posted on 21-01-2014 21:42
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Yeah I was just thinking that if you had a team of 7 then it would be like Orica in Aussie Champs.
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| Dippofix |
Posted on 21-01-2014 21:50
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Ollfardh, i posted my goals too, you mightn't have noticed because i posted only about 20 minutes or so after the last post, also from me.
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| Atlantius |
Posted on 21-01-2014 22:37
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Cycleman123 wrote:
Yeah I was just thinking that if you had a team of 7 then it would be like Orica in Aussie Champs.
True, but with Antón and Nieve on each their own team and Sánchez not eligible the Euskaltel - teams doesn't get overpowered enough to ruin the race.
And with three Amateur-teams along with all the pro riders (incl. the Euskadi CT-team) it doesn't result in the break wins by 40 mins bug as there will always be teams strong enough and willing to chase the break from the start.
At least it behaved nicely in my test run resulting in a very open race with a slightly surprising winner.
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| Shonak |
Posted on 22-01-2014 00:33
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Hm, I took a look at the stats of the top stage racers (Hinault, Totti - are these custom riders for real btw? They look like riders made by 10 year olds   ) Well, anyway, just thought I drop some spare thoughts here because I'm not really pleased with the stats of the best riders. Dunno know the exact premise of it though, maybe the stats will change over time (through the team manager) or whatever, but well....
I saw that Froome has 83 MT. Especially since there's no form in EPIC madness, he turns into a bit of an unbeatable havoc. Isn't that strongly unbalanced for the EPIC concept and the game itself, like for the difficulties of goals or the overall team approach (not mentioning that Froome's stats in general are way too overpowered, just because he had one stellar season and a great TdF 2012 - PCM Database tends to have a disrescpet for the past, no?)
Contador 80 MT is also not cool, I'd prefer a leveled playing field. Boost Bertie up to 82, just like Nibali. Purito and Valverde deserve 81-82 too. I'd also recommend a general mountain limit of 82 and Hill limit of 81. Oh, and a resistance limit of 76 (sounds weird but is really important for PCM2012 in my opinion), judged on gameplay experience.
Edited by Shonak on 22-01-2014 00:44
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 22-01-2014 06:12
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Well, those are simply the PCMdaily Expansion Pack stats.
Froome might be OP, like RL, but this will change later on(stat changes and such)
Conta doesn't deserve 82 MO at all in PCM
Oh, and about custom riders, try sortimg on HI. That's worse
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| Dippofix |
Posted on 22-01-2014 06:42
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That's what i've.been doing for writing previews for The Tracker, it's quite tragic.
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| Cycleman123 |
Posted on 22-01-2014 06:45
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Not sure if I should post this here, but you guys should check out my HQ. I introduced a new feature and everyone can vote on who's next.
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| Atlantius |
Posted on 22-01-2014 18:56
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Thought I'd just drop a note here to say that further details including full list of eligible riders incl. participating talents and riders on unmanaged teams have been posted in my HQ: https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread....ost_849204
The biggest news since yesterday are probably the addition of domestiques for the riders without team mates and a revelation of the elements of the calendar at the moment.
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| Cycleman123 |
Posted on 22-01-2014 20:05
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Guys I think I've stumbled upon a rather dangerous loophole in the goals rule, which Ollfardh has hopefully already thought of.
I think it's fair to say that most people did not achieve most of their Part I goals (f.e. I got none). So, I've figured out a way to assure that you get 3. You could make your goals
Easy: Top 150 Paris-Roubaix
Medium: Top 100 Giro d'Italia
Hard: Top 75 Tour of California
Sure your countered goals would be impossible, but it's an assured way of achieving 3 goals. I think that the way to fix this is to allow no goals lower than Top 25.
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| Luis Leon Sanchez |
Posted on 22-01-2014 20:08
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But crap goals get you almost nothing.
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| Shonak |
Posted on 22-01-2014 20:12
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Where'd be the fun in such goals?
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| The Rider |
Posted on 22-01-2014 20:16
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Shonak wrote:
Hm, I took a look at the stats of the top stage racers (Hinault, Totti - are these custom riders for real btw? They look like riders made by 10 year olds )
I completely agree with that. I would be in favour of the Ludacris custom riders (ie with one stat at 80 and everything else in the toilet) being discarded.
- Cycleman123 - I don't think Ollfardh will allow them and if you do that he will offer counter goals such as:
Easy -- Win 3 jerseys in the Giro
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| Luis Leon Sanchez |
Posted on 22-01-2014 20:24
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The Rider wrote:
Shonak wrote:
Hm, I took a look at the stats of the top stage racers (Hinault, Totti - are these custom riders for real btw? They look like riders made by 10 year olds )
I completely agree with that. I would be in favour of the Ludacris custom riders (ie with one stat at 80 and everything else in the toilet) being discarded.
Guys, on page 27 look at my rider, Mitchell Brt, I believe that is how they should be set out.
Stats with 80MO, 78HIL and 80TT is just stupid.
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 22-01-2014 20:31
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Hinault is not a "Stage Racer", and that is fairly obvious. He is a "Climber". What is he good at? Climbing. What is he bad at? Flat, also known as the opposite of climbing. Logic... (note: i have much precedent on this style of rider)
@Cycleman - You're onto something. It might just be me, but the reward in points is only related to the completion of the goal (varied by Easy, Medium or Hard) and is not born by the quality of the actual goal itself.
Of course reaching the hardest goal will give you most advancements points
That's about the most specific the "rules" gets to what goals deliver and how they deliver.
The only points i can figure that are quality related are those from your HQ posts. Goals seem to be a set figure (frankly i cannot tell at all, the rules and explanations are incredibly vague) regardless of the Goal itself.
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| nacho63 |
Posted on 22-01-2014 20:34
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Maybe they should change the creation of custom riders next season/break to that minimum stat increases when a set stat number is passed or something similar to stop the total disregard of some stats
Edited by nacho63 on 22-01-2014 20:35
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