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| Crommy |
Posted on 26-05-2011 12:37
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borisivanov wrote:
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It seems Contador's tactic is to try and delay the hearing until after the Tour 
Oh, come on! This is in fact bad news for him (and good news for all you Contador haters out here) since for sure ASO will deny him to start when there's no verdict before the start.
They've done so before, With Basso and Ullrich in 2006, and the whole Astana team in 2007, so yes, they can do it...
It's really not bad news - if the verdict came beforehand, he'd be found guilty and not be able to ride.
Now he has at least some hope of riding.
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 26-05-2011 12:39
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Would be somewhat ridiculous if it is delayed til after the TDF, he rides and wins the TDF, gets suspended, and so 3 of the previous 4 GTs have their winners changed - 2 of which Contador should never have ridden.
It at least suggests to me that Contador may not be confident of success when the hearing comes about
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| Ithaca |
Posted on 26-05-2011 12:40
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I stand corrected. |
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 26-05-2011 13:06
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Crommy wrote:
borisivanov wrote:
Crommy wrote:
It seems Contador's tactic is to try and delay the hearing until after the Tour
Oh, come on! This is in fact bad news for him (and good news for all you Contador haters out here) since for sure ASO will deny him to start when there's no verdict before the start.
They've done so before, With Basso and Ullrich in 2006, and the whole Astana team in 2007, so yes, they can do it...
It's really not bad news - if the verdict came beforehand, he'd be found guilty and not be able to ride.
Now he has at least some hope of riding.
Indeed, he could take a tour riding ban to CAS and be quite sucessful. Think we saw it with Boonen in 2009.
It's making a joke of cycling, how much more do we need to take? If Contador were to win both the Giro and Tour, Contador will have won 2 GT's he shouldn't even have started (assuming he is found guilty).
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| kumazan |
Posted on 26-05-2011 13:22
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If ASO lets Clentador start the Tour de France, the small amount of respect I still have for them (of the whole respect they won from me on the good old days when they seemed to care about the sport) will be gone. |
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| HansiBoyo |
Posted on 26-05-2011 13:34
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Sooo Contador not in TDF?
Yay, gonna be an even more boring Tour, when Schleck dominates everyone. *sad face*
I'm not a Contador-fan at all, but without him, there is no interest in watching TDF, because him and Schleck are so much better than the others.
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| borisivanov |
Posted on 26-05-2011 13:46
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Crommy wrote:
It's really not bad news - if the verdict came beforehand, he'd be found guilty
Or maybe not - because I think he honestly believes he will be cleared.
If that's realistic... we will see (but unfortunately not before the Tour, so it seems).
Now he has at least some hope of riding.
I don't think his hope for that has increased. Remember Prudhomme demanding a verdict before the start... and as stated: they've already denied riders to start before. In fact, they already denied Contador before, for no more than being on the wrong team. |
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| borisivanov |
Posted on 26-05-2011 13:47
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doddy13 wrote:
It's making a joke of cycling, how much more do we need to take? If Contador were to win both the Giro and Tour, Contador will have won 2 GT's he shouldn't even have started (assuming he is found guilty).
Why shoudn't he have started? He was cleared, and untill CAS rules otherwise, he is free to ride.
I think it would also make most sense that, if he is found guilty, he keeps his results (except the Tour 2010, of course) and his ban starts the day of the verdict.
(But I guess this is in the wrong thread by now. Sorry  ) |
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| boork |
Posted on 26-05-2011 13:50
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Sorry to hear that HansiBoyo. Personally i think it is sad by Contador to try and delay his ban. Hope that they will take that into consideration once the ban goes through and make the ban last from the tour last year and at least another 2 years from when the date the ban is decided.
If he manages to avoid the ban until september then it means he will not be one from the sport for even a year. |
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| dannyboy |
Posted on 26-05-2011 22:31
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These are just rumours, but word around the journalists circle in the Giro is that RCS Sport are planning to dismiss Angelo Zomegnan from his position as director of the Giro as soon as this Giro is over.
Edited by dannyboy on 26-05-2011 22:32
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| kumazan |
Posted on 26-05-2011 22:55
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Noooooooooo. Angelo  |
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| Crommy |
Posted on 27-05-2011 00:55
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Delay confirmed https://www.cyclin...or-hearing
The reason is due to Contador's defence team not being ready. But I don't understand - if they were ready for the RFEC hearings, why weren't they ready straight away, or very shortly afterwards, for the CAS hearing?
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 27-05-2011 07:54
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dannyboy wrote:
These are just rumours, but word around the journalists circle in the Giro is that RCS Sport are planning to dismiss Angelo Zomegnan from his position as director of the Giro as soon as this Giro is over.
Fernando Llamas (originator of the rumour) mentioned the following complaints that I've copied from someone else 
(Spoiler code for Isso  )
Spoiler 1. Long and pointless transfers. Recurring complaint by pretty much everyone.
2. The Crostis fiasco. Lots of money spent for nothing.
3. The change in the Milan TT course, when the circumstances surrounding the stage were known at the time the Giro was designed.
4. Zomegnan criticized the RAI guys after Orvieto.
5. Too tough of a course, and badly balanced.
6. They don't think the route was fitting for the Giro of the 150th anniversary. |
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| kumazan |
Posted on 27-05-2011 10:40
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1. True
2. True. Not his fault, though.
3. True. That's a pretty big fail.
4. Really? Can't remember that. Still not a strong argument.
5. First part, it's tougher yeah, but I don't see it as TOO tough tbh. Badly balanced? Yes. No GT has had a balanced route in the past few years.
6. Uh? The Giro has gone up and down the whole Italy. From Sicily to the Südtirol. What the hell did they want?
I don't think this is enough to fire him. I guess there's something more they don't want to tell. |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 27-05-2011 11:28
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all this kind of campaigne is strikly personal. Someone else would like to run a show.
They also have forget something..
1. Giro is more popular
2. They made a finest GT in the year 2010
Zomegan is not afraid to take some risks. |
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| Il Grillo |
Posted on 27-05-2011 13:50
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1. If you want to visit as many regions of italy as possible in a year, you'll have those complaints about the transfers, when you have short transfers there are regions that complain they havent been visited for years
2. True this should have been solved earlier, not a day ahead, but this is not only Zomegans fault.
3. Isnt it a decisive election between the best 2 candidates so the exact date couldnt be known when the route was planned
4. havent read about that
5. The unbalanced, hilly to mountainious route is what makes the Giro so unique and represents the characteristics of the country.
6. The route was pretty good. Although i think 2009 was better.
The last two years were fantastic, this year didnt go to well with things happening in and around the giro. One average year shouldnt erase 2 super years. |
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| Crommy |
Posted on 27-05-2011 15:22
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The case against Armstrong (kind of) continues to grow 
https://www.cyclin...ct-samples
Edited by Crommy on 27-05-2011 15:23
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 27-05-2011 21:05
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So Saugy pretty much defends him, yet they deny that the meeting found place?
Armstrong's attorney Tim Herman, however, recently said in a statement that "neither Armstrong or Bruyneel have any recollection of meeting [Saugy] for any purpose at any time," and "Armstrong was never informed by anyone in 2001 or any other time about either a positive or 'suspicious' test". |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 29-05-2011 12:40
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This is a few days old, but I never got around to post it.
The Danish media is preparing the Tour de France magazines. They have to be verified by ASO before being published.
One of the frontpages featured Contador and Schleck. When ASO saw this, they were told to remove Contador.
Not looking good for the guy if he's not even allowed to feature on the frontpages of the official Tour magazines |
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| miggi133 |
Posted on 29-05-2011 12:50
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CrueTrue wrote:
This is a few days old, but I never got around to post it.
The Danish media is preparing the Tour de France magazines. They have to be verified by ASO before being published.
One of the frontpages featured Contador and Schleck. When ASO saw this, they were told to remove Contador.
Not looking good for the guy if he's not even allowed to feature on the frontpages of the official Tour magazines
Finally a positive hint about this years Tour...^^
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