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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 20-05-2010 09:48
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I could dig up a lot of hilarious Levi4Life-posts from the past, but that'd be too mean  |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 20-05-2010 10:18
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However, the timing of the American's announcement was questioned by UCI president Pat McQuaid.
"He probably needed to get it off his chest. Why is he announcing it in the week of the Tour of California?" McQuaid told Reuters. "He must have an agenda."
USADA RESPONSIBILITY
McQuaid added that Landis's fate was now in the hands of American anti-doping authorities.
"USADA (U.S. Anti-Doping Agency) will now look into this," McQuaid said.
McQuaid, of all people, questions the timing... As far as I know, huge doping cases are usually only announced at the beginning of the Grand Tours. Why's that again? |
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Posted on 20-05-2010 10:33
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Landis, who served a two-year ban for doping and did not return phone calls for this story, told ESPN.com that he has no documentation to prove most of his claims.
Hurray 
EDIT: And he's still denying the positive test. Oh the hilarity
As for his own positive test, Landis still maintains the result was inaccurate and he had not used synthetic testosterone during the 2006 season -- although he now admits he used human growth hormone during that time. At this point, he does not want to dwell on any of the issues he and his lawyers hammered at during his case, he said.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 20-05-2010 10:44
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He[Armstrong]also divulged to me at that time that in
the first year that the EPO test was used he had been told by Mr Ferrari,
who had access to the new test, that he should not use EPO anymore but he
did not believe Mr Farrari and contin
ued to use it. He later, while winning the Tour de Swiss, the month before
the Tour de France, tested positive for EPO at which point he and Mr
Bruyneel flew to the UCI headquarters and made a financial agreement with
Mr. Vrubrugen to keep the positive test hidden.
Edited by issoisso on 20-05-2010 10:46
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 20-05-2010 10:45
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Most likely he doesn't want to get sued by his own lawyers or whichever people he hired to defend him, which'd cost him some more money, so he admits everything but that... Makes sense... |
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Posted on 20-05-2010 10:46
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Posted by someone on the cyclingnews forum:
2002: I was instructed on how to use Testosterone patches by Johan Bruyneel
during the During the Dauphine Libere in June, after which I flew on a
helicopter with Mr Armstrong from the finish, I believe Grenoble, to San
Mauritz Switzerland at which point I was personally handed a box of 2.5 mg
patches in front of his wife who witnessed the exchange. About a week
later, Dr Ferrari performed an extraction of half a liter of blood to be
transfused back into me during the Tour de France. Mr Armstrong was not
witness to the extraction but he and I had lengthy discussions about it on
our training rides during which time he also explained to me the evolution
of EPO testing and how transfusions were now necessary due to the
inconvenience of the new test. He also divulged to me at that time that in
the first year that the EPO test was used he had been told by Mr Ferrari,
who had access to the new test, that he should not use EPO anymore but he
did not believe Mr Farrari and contin
ued to use it. He later, while winning the Tour de Swiss, the month before
the Tour de France, tested positive for EPO at which point he and Mr
Bruyneel flew to the UCI headquarters and made a financial agreement with
Mr. Vrubrugen to keep the positive test hidden.
2003: After a broken hip in the winter, I flew to Gerona Spain where this
time two units (half a liter each) were extracted three weeks apart. This
took place in the apartment in which Mr. Armstrong lived and in which I was
asked to stay and check the blood temperature every day. It was kept in a
small refrigerator in the closet allong with the blood of Mr Armstrong and
George Hincapie and since Mr. Armstrong was planning on being gone for a few
weeks to train he asked me to stay in his place and make sure the
electricity didn't turn off or something go wrong with the referigerator.
Then during the Tour de France the entire team, on two different occasions
went to the room that we were told and the doctor met us there to do the
transfusions. During that Tour de France I personally witnessed George
Hincapie, Lance Armstrong, Chechu Rubiera, and myself receiving blood
transfusions. Also during that Tour de France the team doctor would give my
room mate, George Hincapie an
d I a small syringe of olive oil in which was disolved andriol, a form of
ingestible testosterone on two out of three nights throughout the duration.
I was asked to ride the Vuelta a Espana that year in support of Roberto
Heras and in August, between the Tour and the Vuelta, was told to take EPO
to raise my hematocrit back up so more blood transfusions could be
performed. I was instructed to go to Lances place by Johan Bruyneel and get
some EPO from him. The first EPO I ever used was then handed to me in the
entry way to his building in full view of his then wife. It was Eprex by
brand and it came in six pre measured syringes. I used it intravenously for
several weeks before the next blood draw and had no problems with the tests
during the Vuelta. Also during this time it was explained to me how to use
Human Growth Hormone by Johan Bruyneel and I bought what I needed from Pepe
the team "trainer" who lived in Valencia along with the team doctor at that
time. While training for that Vuelta I spent a good deal of time training
with Matthew White and Michael Barry and shared the testosterone and EPO
that we had and discu
ssed the use thereof while training.
Again, during the Vuelta we were given Andriol and blood transfusions by the
team doctor and had no problems with any testing.
2004: Again the team performed two seperate blood transfusions on me, but
this time Bruyneel had become more paranoid and we did the draws by flying
to Belgium and meeting at an unknown persons appartment and the blood was
brought by "Duffy" who was at that time Johans assistant of sorts. The
second of which was performed on the team bus on the ride from the finish of
a stage to the hotel during which the driver pretended to have engine
trouble and stopped on a remote mountain road for an hour or so so the
entire team could have half a liter of blood added. This was the only time
that I ever saw the entire team being transfused in plain view of all the
other riders and bus driver. That team included Lance Armstrong, George
Hincapie and I as the only Americans.
2005: I had learned at this point how to do most of the transfusion
technicals and other things on my own so I hired Allen Lim as my assistant
to help with details and logistics. He helped Levi Leipheimer and I prepare
the transfusions for Levi and I and made sure they were kept at the proper
temperature. We both did two seperate transfusions that Tour however my
hematocrit was too low at the start so I did my first one a few days before
the start so as to not start with a deficit.
2006: Well you get the idea....... One thing of great signigicance is that
I sat down with Andy Riis and explained to him what was done in the past and
what was the risk I would be taking and ask for his permission which he
granted in the form of funds to complete the operation described. John
Lelangue was also informed by me and Andy Riis consulted with Jim Ochowitz
before agreeing.
There are many many more details that I have in diaries and am in the
process of writing into an intelligible story but since the position of USA
Cycling is that there have not been enough details shared to justify calling
USADA, I am writing as many as I can reasonably put into an email and share
with you so as to ascertain what is the process which USA Cycling uses to
proceed with such allegations.
Look forward to much more detail as soon as you can demonstrate that you can
be trusted to do the right thing.
Floyd Landis
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| Wyman |
Posted on 20-05-2010 10:54
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Good on you Floyd... lets see Lance dodge his way around this one
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| dwayo |
Posted on 20-05-2010 10:58
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incredible. if only something would be done about this, but i don't like the chances.
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Posted on 20-05-2010 10:59
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I think Floydy may have just ruined American cycling. Welcome the new Germany to the cycling game peeps.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 20-05-2010 11:00
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Notice how a ton of Garmin people are implicated.
Including Allen Lim, the former Garmin and current Radioshack team doctor, for all intents and purpouses
Edited by issoisso on 20-05-2010 11:23
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| Aquarius |
Posted on 20-05-2010 11:03
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Did I read it well or just misinterpreted ? He just wrote that Armstrong tested positive for EPO at Tour de Suisse 2002, but made a money gift to UCI and got away with it ? |
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Posted on 20-05-2010 11:05
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Aquarius wrote:
Did I read it well or just misinterpreted ? He just wrote that Armstrong tested positive for EPO at Tour de Suisse 2002, but made a money gift to UCI and got away with it ?
Yes. Armstrong's half a million dollar donation that we've discussed so many times over the years. Turns out it wasn't for the backdated TUE that got Lance off the hook when he tested positive in 1999......it was from an EPO positive in 2001/2002
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Posted on 20-05-2010 11:05
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Aquarius wrote:
Did I read it well or just misinterpreted ? He just wrote that Armstrong tested positive for EPO at Tour de Suisse 2002, but made a money gift to UCI and got away with it ?
Yes - which means quite a few people at the UCI are in on it. We just need one of them to crumble and reveal all...
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Posted on 20-05-2010 11:26
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issoisso wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
Did I read it well or just misinterpreted ? He just wrote that Armstrong tested positive for EPO at Tour de Suisse 2002, but made a money gift to UCI and got away with it ?
Yes. Armstrong's half a million dollar donation that we've discussed so many times over the years. Turns out it wasn't for the backdated TUE that got Lance off the hook when he tested positive in 1999......it was from an EPO positive in 2001/2002
In an interview from 2008, he does admit, though, that he made a voluntary donation to UCI in 2000 of something along the lines of 50.000 €. |
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Posted on 20-05-2010 11:40
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rjc_43 wrote:
I think Floydy may have just ruined American cycling. Welcome the new Germany to the cycling game peeps.
The money will leave. The big teams will leave. Cycling will live on. Talents will still make it to the big stage.
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| Biathlon |
Posted on 20-05-2010 11:51
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Floyd is talking bullshit.
Words to live by
"What would Lance do?"

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Posted on 20-05-2010 12:03
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From Biathlons sig:
Words to live by
"What would Lance do?"
Seems that he is following it in the way of denial
BenBarnes wrote:
Thor wears a live rattlesnake as a condom.
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Posted on 20-05-2010 12:09
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That is a very interesting read. Four years too late Floyd but better late than never.
I was startled by the Tour de Suisse revelation, cannot remember many positive tests at the time. I wonder if UCI got many donations in this period.
It is always like Santa Claus, you like to carry on believing because its just such a cosy feeling. I carried on believing until peurto hit the fan, which was really a bit too late expecting presents at christmas time in my mid twenties is a bit too much.
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Posted on 20-05-2010 12:24
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issoisso wrote:
Notice how a ton of Garmin people are implicated.
Including Allen Lim, the former Garmin and current Radioshack team doctor, for all intents and purpouses
I wonder what wiggins and millar have to say about this
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Posted on 20-05-2010 12:41
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Let me remind you that:
Andreu: How do they sneak it in, or keep it until needed? I'm sure it's not with the truck in the fridge.
Vaughters: Motorcycle – refrigerated panniers. On the rest day. Floyd has a photo of the thing.
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