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| valverde321 |
Posted on 05-04-2010 23:42
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Deadpool wrote:
Watch out for Rollin in the next year or two in the cobbled classics. 3rd at Schelderprijs last year, and he took 42nd on sunday after having to wait for Thor, and with the 7 and a half hour slog in a rainstorm in the 08 Amgen Tour, he has proven he can withstand the grind of the races.
I repeat, watch out for him.
Yes and he's still young too. I really hope he does well. Then we'd have Rollin for the cobbles and Ryder for the Vuelta.(Tour will be too hard.)
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 05-04-2010 23:42
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Deadpool wrote:
Watch out for Rollin in the next year or two in the cobbled classics. 3rd at Schelderprijs last year, and he took 42nd on sunday after having to wait for Thor, and with the 7 and a half hour slog in a rainstorm in the 08 Amgen Tour, he has proven he can withstand the grind of the races.
I repeat, watch out for him.
Since when did the Scheldprijs mean much towards a potential result in the major cobbled classics?
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Posted on 05-04-2010 23:45
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SportingNonsense wrote:
Deadpool wrote:
Watch out for Rollin in the next year or two in the cobbled classics. 3rd at Schelderprijs last year, and he took 42nd on sunday after having to wait for Thor, and with the 7 and a half hour slog in a rainstorm in the 08 Amgen Tour, he has proven he can withstand the grind of the races.
I repeat, watch out for him.
Since when did the Scheldprijs mean much towards a potential result in the major cobbled classics?
It proves he can handle himself on the terrain. The fact that he is more powerful than Thor, spent 3 years riding cobbled races as a U23 rider in France (didn't have many results, but Guy Gallopin said he handled himself very well), and his ability (on more than one occasion, the Tour of California is the best one, and if you watch what happened, you can understand why) in really bad conditions also bodes well.
Edited by Deadpool on 05-04-2010 23:46
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 05-04-2010 23:50
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Deadpool wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
Deadpool wrote:
Watch out for Rollin in the next year or two in the cobbled classics. 3rd at Schelderprijs last year, and he took 42nd on sunday after having to wait for Thor, and with the 7 and a half hour slog in a rainstorm in the 08 Amgen Tour, he has proven he can withstand the grind of the races.
I repeat, watch out for him.
Since when did the Scheldprijs mean much towards a potential result in the major cobbled classics?
It proves he can handle himself on the terrain. The fact that he is more powerful than Thor, spent 3 years riding cobbled races as a U23 rider in France, and his ability (on more than one occasion, the Tour of California is the best one, and if you watch what happened, you can understand why) in really bad conditions also bodes well.
More powerful than Hushovd for getting 3rd place in a sprint, riding under 23 races and doing well in the Tour of California, of all races? 
Scheldeprijs? Behind the great cobbled riders Petacchi and Van Hummel, and a race won by Cavendish the 2 years previously.
If you want an example of him riding well in poor conditions, take his 5th place in Kuurne this year. A proper race, where the majority withdrew well before the finish. But still ultimately meaning little in terms of Rollin's capability in the major races, RVV and Roubaix.
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| Kami |
Posted on 05-04-2010 23:56
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Hey now, Van Hummel will obviously win P-R next year. 
But yea, Scheldeprijs isn't a good example but i'm sure he can get some good placings in these kind of races, although i think RvV and P-R are out of reach though.
But ending 42th in this years RvV doesn't prove alot rly. Armstrong ended in the first following group aswell and you even scolded at it in this thread. But aslong he's at Cervelo it will kinda stay the same. Normally they have 3 cobbles captains, so unless he goes to another team i don't rly see him winning a cobbled classic the following years.
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 06-04-2010 00:10
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Kami wrote:
Hey now, Van Hummel will obviously win P-R next year.
But yea, Scheldeprijs isn't a good example but i'm sure he can get some good placings in these kind of races, although i think RvV and P-R are out of reach though.
But ending 42th in this years RvV doesn't prove alot rly. Armstrong ended in the first following group aswell and you even scolded at it in this thread. But aslong he's at Cervelo it will kinda stay the same. Normally they have 3 cobbles captains, so unless he goes to another team i don't rly see him winning a cobbled classic the following years.
It's kinda like VandeVelde AND Armstrong. VandeVelde could have been a captain on other teams but stayed to be leiutenant with Lance. He had potential. And in 99 I think Postal tolds their rider to ride flat out for 20km and then they would take blood samples. VandeVelde had the most potential (looking at it from the blood) but they told the media that Lance had the best blood according to tests so he would stay leader and wouldn't loose confidence. Christian might have been a Tour winner if he left but stayed and only now had become a good climber again.
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 06-04-2010 00:12
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Wondeful, my long, studious reply to your post disappeared, SN.
Basically, what I said in it is that he has all the pieces, comfort on cobbles and good results in those races, good results during long punishing races with bad weather, and strong core power that has shown itself on the road (he put out more watts than Thor during the Cervelo training camp). I'm not saying he's going to be winning these races in droves in the coming years, but he has the pieces, and look out. |
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 06-04-2010 00:20
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He'll be a decent rider that finishes in the top 10 I think but in his prime year and the hope that Spartacus doesn't race he could win PR. I'd say he deserves atleast a 73-4 Cobbles stat in PCM not that, that's too relevant to the irl topic.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 06-04-2010 01:00
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Here's what I don't get. Breschel's criticising his team in public (which shows a lack of professionalism, but that's not the point) about the bike change and saying it cost him a result.
He was back on his bike for the sprint, so how exactly did it cost him anything? What was he going to do? Attack when his teammate was up the road? Go with Gilbert and risk bringing the entire peloton with him?
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 06-04-2010 01:08
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I guess he feels he could have gone with Cancellara and Boonen
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| arthon |
Posted on 06-04-2010 01:13
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I kind of understand his frustration, given the fact he lost at least one major classic because of bad luck.
Edited by arthon on 06-04-2010 01:14
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 06-04-2010 08:42
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I understand his frustration too, but it would it have changed that much? He's good, but he's not Cance and Boonen good so he couldn't have kept up.
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| Bosskardo |
Posted on 06-04-2010 15:38
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SportingNonsense wrote:
I guess he feels he could have gone with Cancellara and Boonen
Yeah but if you could get a top 10 I feel you should try, at least when Pro Tour points are at stake.
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| Crommy |
Posted on 07-04-2010 14:44
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Hagen out of Paris - Roubaix
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| ruben |
Posted on 07-04-2010 17:46
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Oh no, another rider who might have done a top 50 gone. What will we do now? |
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Posted on 07-04-2010 18:22
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ruben wrote:
Oh no, another rider who will have done a top 1 gone. What will we do now?
I fixed it for you
Edited by Crommy on 07-04-2010 18:23
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| ruben |
Posted on 07-04-2010 18:24
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Norwegian censorship? |
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| Crommy |
Posted on 07-04-2010 18:25
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If I only was still an admin
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 07-04-2010 20:46
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So, having finally returned from a deserted island far away from civilization, is Ronde van Vlaanderen worth downloading? Or will I just get too frustrated seeing the mechanics mess up Breschel's chance of winning? |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 07-04-2010 20:55
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CrueTrue wrote:
So, having finally returned from a deserted island far away from civilization, is Ronde van Vlaanderen worth downloading? Or will I just get too frustrated seeing the mechanics mess up Breschel's chance of winning?
Worth downloading Id say, it was a great race with Boonen and Cancellara
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