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issoisso
Halvor wrote:
soda wrote:
CrueTrue wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
Also, in German, Belarus is known as Weiss-Russland

So basically White Russia. Does it snow a lot there? Pfft


Same in Danish - Hviderusland Wink
and in dutch "Wit-Rusland"


and in Norwegian "Hviterussland"



and in portuguese "Porque caralho é que estão a falar dessa merda não faz sentido nenhum parem com isso por amor de deus e tudo o que é sagrado"

or similar...
Edited by issoisso on 30-05-2008 19:37
 
Guido Mukk
Italian logic..I dont care who wins Giro..but he should be italian. And then that mr. x (ti)..will be our national hero.
One old Zabel interview after 1997 TdF stage win...I won this year Milano-San Remo. Italians probably dont like it..if I would been italian..they they probably already made golden statue. In this TdF I get some glory payback
 
Osmose
good one, isso:lol::lol:
Nélson Évora, national hero!
 
soda
Guido Mukk wrote:
Italian logic..I dont care who wins Giro..but he should be italian. And then that mr. x (ti)..will be our national hero.
One old Zabel interview after 1997 TdF stage win...I won this year Milano-San Remo. Italians probably dont like it..if I would been italian..they they probably already made golden statue. In this TdF I get some glory payback
Ain't that logic ? Everyone's cheering for his own nationality. People winning the ronde van Vlaanderen get hyped over here aswell. Just look a Boonen, his like a god in Belgium Rolling Eyes

@ issoisso thats quite a mouth full
Edited by soda on 30-05-2008 19:50
 
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mb2612
soda wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
Italian logic..I dont care who wins Giro..but he should be italian. And then that mr. x (ti)..will be our national hero.
One old Zabel interview after 1997 TdF stage win...I won this year Milano-San Remo. Italians probably dont like it..if I would been italian..they they probably already made golden statue. In this TdF I get some glory payback
Ain't that logic ? Everyone's cheering for his own nationality. People winning the ronde van Vlaanderen get hyped over here aswell. Just look a Boonen, his like a god in Belgium Rolling Eyes


The difference is between fans supporting their nationality and people who are paid to compete against each other supporting thier own nationality
 
soda
mb2612 wrote:
soda wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
Italian logic..I dont care who wins Giro..but he should be italian. And then that mr. x (ti)..will be our national hero.
One old Zabel interview after 1997 TdF stage win...I won this year Milano-San Remo. Italians probably dont like it..if I would been italian..they they probably already made golden statue. In this TdF I get some glory payback
Ain't that logic ? Everyone's cheering for his own nationality. People winning the ronde van Vlaanderen get hyped over here aswell. Just look a Boonen, his like a god in Belgium Rolling Eyes


The difference is between fans supporting their nationality and people who are paid to compete against each other supporting thier own nationality
Well if i would be in a breakaway in a race like the Giro or the TDF, the first person i'd look for is someone of my own nationality. I wouldn't sell the race but helping eachother if possible wouldn't harm me
 
mb2612
soda wrote:
mb2612 wrote:
soda wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
Italian logic..I dont care who wins Giro..but he should be italian. And then that mr. x (ti)..will be our national hero.
One old Zabel interview after 1997 TdF stage win...I won this year Milano-San Remo. Italians probably dont like it..if I would been italian..they they probably already made golden statue. In this TdF I get some glory payback
Ain't that logic ? Everyone's cheering for his own nationality. People winning the ronde van Vlaanderen get hyped over here aswell. Just look a Boonen, his like a god in Belgium Rolling Eyes


The difference is between fans supporting their nationality and people who are paid to compete against each other supporting thier own nationality
Well if i would be in a breakaway in a race like the Giro or the TDF, the first person i'd look for is someone of my own nationality. I wouldn't sell the race but helping eachother if possible wouldn't harm me


I would do the same, Its more should sella sit back and help Ricco win just because they are both Italian
 
MD95
This year is the Giro going to Spain, and Alberto Contador. It is boring whit a Time Trial as last stage, but tomorrow it will be a fantastic stage. Riccò and Di Luca is going to attack Maglia Rosa, and if Contador do as he did today, will Ricco and The Killer use that.
Enjoi it B)
 
issoisso
sella had absolutely nothing whatsoever to gain from doing what he did.

a bit like Di Luca burying himself in 2005 to try to help Simoni win the Giro. only not nearly as scandalous.
 
soda
I think atm everyone is just racing for his own position in the GC. Sella did pass Simoni and so did pozzovivo.

Also i think Sella was hoping to shake Vandenbroeck just to have atleast a small margin in the TT Wink
 
SportingNonsense
Also like last year when I remember Cunego pulling Di Luca up a mountain - Zoncolon I think - when Andy Schleck was up ahead.
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issoisso
Sella has said himself multiple times he doesn't care about GC if he can't win the Giro.

with a break so many minutes ahead, what was he doing?
 
Guido Mukk
issoisso wrote:
sella had absolutely nothing whatsoever to gain from doing what he did.

a bit like Di Luca burying himself in 2005 to try to help Simoni win the Giro. only not nearly as scandalous.


We all remember last year Zocolan stage..when Cunego pulled Di Luca (at least this looked this way)..and was confirming he's Giro win on that stage.
 
niconico
Eventhough Contador is hanging tough, I stand by my statement of him winning this race. There's only one stage left for the others to gain sufficient time on him and tomorrow's stage doesn't featue an uphill finish and I can't see how the Di Luca and Ricco should gain enough time on Contador on a stage like tomorrow's.
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mb2612
Sella should have just realised that he wasnt going to Drop Contador and hence he might as well just sit back and try again tommorow
 
soda
issoisso wrote:
Sella has said himself multiple times he doesn't care about GC if he can't win the Giro.

with a break so many minutes ahead, what was he doing?
He also said that he was still aiming for a podium finish Frown. So either he can't make up his mind or he changed it Pfft.

Anyway no matter what they say, i do think they care about there GC ranking. And if they don't the team will let em think twice Pfft cuz sponsors do care.
 
issoisso
Guido Mukk wrote:
issoisso wrote:
sella had absolutely nothing whatsoever to gain from doing what he did.

a bit like Di Luca burying himself in 2005 to try to help Simoni win the Giro. only not nearly as scandalous.


We all remember last year Zocolan stage..when Cunego pulled Di Luca (at least this looked this way)..and was confirming he's Giro win on that stage.


In the stage to Bergamo, when Di Luca was isolated and had no more teammates to chase everyone who was ahead, Cunego put his whole team at the front. The ones "ahead" were basically every GC guy except Cunego and Di Luca

A_Schleck wrote:
Eventhough Contador is hanging tough, I stand by my statement of him winning this race. There's only one stage left for the others to gain sufficient time on him and tomorrow's stage doesn't featue an uphill finish and I can't see how the Di Luca and Ricco should gain enough time on Contador on a stage like tomorrow's.


the time difference between first and fifth placed the last three times the Mortirolo was used as the last climb on the stage and the top of it was between 30 and 100kms from the finish

6:03
1.33
4:45

I don't think most people realise just how murderously steep it is.
Edited by issoisso on 30-05-2008 20:16
 
tom
Because of the downhill finish I can see a group of favourites finishing together, unless Savoldelli can work his magic on the descent again tomorrow. Unless yet another break away wins this could gain Ricco a few seconds on Contador, but I cant really see much more of a lead unless he and Di Luca make the early attacks like Di Luca did today, that, I think is the only way to drop Contador.
Edited by tom on 30-05-2008 20:21
 
issoisso
tom wrote:
Because of the downhill finish I can see a group of favourites finishing together


I can see three at most. I do think Contador will manage to finish in front, but one can never be sure.

tom wrote:
, unless Savoldelli can work his magic on the descent again tomorrow.


I still remember the last time down the Mortirolo he won 50-odd seconds. there's no way he loses only that going up it.


tom wrote:
Unless yet another break away wins this could gain Ricco a few seconds on Contador, but I cant really see much more of a lead unless he and Di Luca make the early attacks like Di Luca did today, that, I think is the only way to drop Contador.


agreed.
 
mb2612
problem is that contador could well gain 2 min on the TT and that is alot of time to gain on a downhill finish especially as the major climb is 50km out. Also Kloden looked strong today and I can see him helping Contador to the finished well within striking range on the TT
 
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