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| stuartmcstuart |
Posted on 26-07-2008 16:20
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issoisso wrote:
And here's the thing: without all that bad luck, Menchov would've won the Tour!
no he wouldn't. Something else would have happened so that he didn't win. He's destined to never win the Tour!
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EDIT: and without the crash, vande Velde would've won
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Posted on 26-07-2008 16:23
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yup, Menchov will never win
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| issoisso |
Posted on 26-07-2008 16:24
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as usual, Evans did the final 10kms much faster than the rest of his TT
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| seldon71 |
Posted on 26-07-2008 16:25
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Nope for Vandevelde too. He was dropped before the crash and that group with Evans, Sastre, others came down really fast. They wouldn't have distanced Menchov or Kirchen otherwise. Max. gain for Christian without crash is 2 mins. He will be further away from yellow than 2 mins. |
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Posted on 26-07-2008 16:25
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however he sucked |
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Posted on 26-07-2008 16:26
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Vandevelde, was only 35 sec. after at the top, but he crashed at the downhill, while gaining time on the others
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Posted on 26-07-2008 16:27
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Kohl on the podium, omg wtf, bbq |
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| stuartmcstuart |
Posted on 26-07-2008 16:27
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stuartmcstuart wrote:
quote of the day...Paul Sherwen on ITV calling Sastre a young man! 
And then Liggett tries to beat him:
"Sastre's time trialing is reminiscent of Lance Armstrong's!" |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 26-07-2008 16:27
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seldon71 wrote:
Nope for Vandevelde too. He was dropped before the crash and that group with Evans, Sastre, others came down really fast. They wouldn't have distanced Menchov or Kirchen otherwise. Max. gain for Christian without crash is 2 mins. He will be further away from yellow than 2 mins.
with Menchov it's debatable, since we'll never know what he would've done at Hautacam, but not with Vande Velde. according to cyclingnews, he was 25 seconds behind the leaders' group when he crashed.
anyway, it's completely irrelevant 
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| issoisso |
Posted on 26-07-2008 16:28
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stuartmcstuart wrote:
stuartmcstuart wrote:
quote of the day...Paul Sherwen on ITV calling Sastre a young man!
And then Liggett tries to beat him:
"Sastre's time trialing is reminiscent of Lance Armstrong's!"
idiots
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Posted on 26-07-2008 16:28
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helGn wrote:
however he sucked
at the moment 7th. ..not so sucked at all. But we expect much more...he had last week "to good Dauphine syndrom"..and also never survived completly at this crash.
But he is best wheel sucker..never gives up. |
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Posted on 26-07-2008 16:29
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And again a Spaniard winning the Tour, as they have done since Armstrongs retirement. |
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Posted on 26-07-2008 16:29
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Sastre wins the tour. cue Dankan dying of a stress aneurysm in 3...2...1...
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| seldon71 |
Posted on 26-07-2008 16:31
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issoisso wrote:
seldon71 wrote:
Nope for Vandevelde too. He was dropped before the crash and that group with Evans, Sastre, others came down really fast. They wouldn't have distanced Menchov or Kirchen otherwise. Max. gain for Christian without crash is 2 mins. He will be further away from yellow than 2 mins.
with Menchov it's debatable, since we'll never know what he would've done at Hautacam, but not with Vande Velde. according to cyclingnews, he was 25 seconds behind the leaders' group when he crashed.
anyway, it's completely irrelevant
Vandevelde lost 2:01 to Menchov in Jausiers. Give him those two minutes and he will still not win the Tour. It's irrelevant, but it's also a fact.
As you say, Menchov CAN be argued. But there is so many ifs and he would have needed AT LEAST a minute extra in Hautacam. |
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Posted on 26-07-2008 16:32
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VIVA SASTRE!!!!!!! |
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Posted on 26-07-2008 16:32
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I am happy after TdF..this first time after few years. |
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Posted on 26-07-2008 16:33
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Well done, SastreB) |
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Posted on 26-07-2008 16:33
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SASTRE IS GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| issoisso |
Posted on 26-07-2008 16:33
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seldon71 wrote:
Vandevelde lost 2:01 to Menchov in Jausiers.
that's not the point. he was close to the leaders and gaining fast (he's a great descender). he would've caught them far before the finish.
anyway, "irrelevant" means irrelevant, just drop it 
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| stuartmcstuart |
Posted on 26-07-2008 16:34
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Guido Mukk wrote:
I am happy after TdF..this first time after few years.
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