is that actual speed? (i missed the stage)
if so.... come on, who are you trying to kid here?
Believe it or not, yes.
It's been a while since I've last seen a rider brake for the corners on a mountain.
The reason Froome was 2 seconds slower than Armstrong is that the start of the climb was done very very slowly. Once Froome took off he was riding so ridiculously fast, he took back insane amounts of time.
#TDF, Mont Ventoux, last 6.15 km
2000 Marco Pantani: 18 min 11 sec
2013 Chris Froome: 17 min 41 sec
That's half a minute faster than PantaniEdited by issoisso on 15-07-2013 08:50
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issoisso wrote:
For those of you who a few pages back were speaking of Bolt and Jamaican sprinters being 'proof of natural talent' or something, 4 jamaicans tested positive. Two are olympic medallist sprinters.
No names revealed yet.
Tyson Gay has also tested positive. Again.
I was the first to argue against those fanboys, several pages ago.
I think I called Jamaica for some kind of Doping heaven, hence their Anti-Doping-Agency do only exist on paper. The history of the sprinters is the same as cycling, the elite have almost always been doped, and continue to do so.
Furthermore its pretty simple to see them using anabolic steorids based on their muscle size + definition in low body fat ratio.
Anyway still hope to see Bolt Blake Gaitlin now when Gay is gone.
Oh and btw so people stop claiming they are natural : Look at the female top 3 Jamaican sprinters, they have more testosteron in your body, than anyone on this forum -.-
Edited by Ybodonk on 15-07-2013 09:05
Surely froome is innocent as of Right now. But the Way he rides and the Many records he makes raises a lot of bad thoughts recarding if he's clean or not.
is that actual speed? (i missed the stage)
if so.... come on, who are you trying to kid here?
Believe it or not, yes.
It's been a while since I've last seen a rider brake for the corners on a mountain.
The reason Froome was 2 seconds slower than Armstrong is that the start of the climb was done very very slowly. Once Froome took off he was riding so ridiculously fast, he took back insane amounts of time.
#TDF, Mont Ventoux, last 6.15 km
2000 Marco Pantani: 18 min 11 sec
2013 Chris Froome: 17 min 41 sec
That's half a minute faster than Pantani
Insane.
The danish commentators yelled this when he dropped Contador:
R.S h no, whats happening!??!
J.L : It looks very scary.
Maybe Froome has a hidden engine in the bike, like Cancellara was accused of years ago
EDIT: A funny thing Quintana said (dont have the original quote in english)
" I was surprised by how strong Froome was, I can only thing of going to bed and rest. I see Froome is sitting on his bike now." (the bike he rides on after each stage, like warming up the ITT)
Froome didnt need any oxygen, he was not crushed as the rest. Two coughs, 1 kiss and he was ready. He had the energi to ride and warm-down his legs.
Dissapointed in Contador loosing so much to Nieve and the group in the last 1-1.5km
Edited by Ybodonk on 15-07-2013 09:10
You all seem to forget that when Armstrong was doping so was 90 percent of the rest allegedly, he just may have done it slightly better. If you all think that Sky are, what makes you think nobody else isnt.
Riders who have done poorly in the past who are now doing better could be because of a cleaner peleton.
bibb229 wrote:
You all seem to forget that when Armstrong was doping so was 90 percent of the rest allegedly, he just may have done it slightly better. If you all think that Sky are, what makes you think nobody else isnt.
Nobody says that Sky are the only ones.
bibb229 wrote:
Riders who have done poorly in the past who are now doing better could be because of a cleaner peleton.
Then how do you explain that the performance levels have gone back to Armstrong's days?
Valverde, Contador, Rodriguez all crushing Froome only in Spain???? Surely Froome was doping then you say??? surely if he was as you lot say the fact he had a tour in his legs wouldnt have made a difference, Valverde did, wasnt particularly hard tdf for either of them.
Also Contador and Schleck were miles ahead in previous tours were they doping???? They attcked continuously and left everyone behind playing with eachother. Contador and Schleck are now not fit and other right off's such as Nieve, Kreauziger, Rogers and others who are yet to prove themselves are up there, If Froome is on the same level as Contador and Schleck were previously then he is bound to destroy everyone else. Sky do everything better than everyone else because they can afford it so why dont you all just get over it and enjoy the cycling. PS im an orica greenedge fan so dont really give a toss. Big up the backstage pass.
Then how do you explain that the performance levels have gone back to Armstrong's days?
Armstrong was 8ish years ago, surely technology, training methods, recoovery, nutrition have all improved since then. Look at Sky warming up and down, most teams are now doing this. Competition drives improvements in everything.
Quintana stuck with him? and he attacks for fun is he not doping aswell ? if someone from youre country was to be winning the tour, say contador from Spain or Mollema/Gesink/Ten Dam from Holland then would you say that they would dope aswell ?
Santambrogio doped in the Giro and Nibali kept with him up the steep climbs so did he not dope aswell ? see what youre saying is ludicrous, we dont have the 'doping culture' in GB maybe David Millar is a bad example but he was on the continent at the time, not in a GB team, with GB coaching and GB ways of training and clean priniples from the principle to the soigneurs.. shame that cant be said about the majority of the teams in the protour!
stop whining cause a Brit is looking like they will win the tour for 2 years running...sour grapes!
dtbutterfield wrote:
Quintana stuck with him? and he attacks for fun is he not doping aswell ? if someone from youre country was to be winning the tour, say contador from Spain or Mollema/Gesink/Ten Dam from Holland then would you say that they would dope aswell ?
Santambrogio doped in the Giro and Nibali kept with him up the steep climbs so did he not dope aswell ? see what youre saying is ludicrous, we dont have the 'doping culture' in GB maybe David Millar is a bad example but he was on the continent at the time, not in a GB team, with GB coaching and GB ways of training and clean priniples from the principle to the soigneurs.. shame that cant be said about the majority of the teams in the protour!
stop whining cause a Brit is looking like they will win the tour for 2 years running...sour grapes!
Is that your Sky fanboy disguise?
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h no, whats happening!??!
