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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 27-05-2010 16:04
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Brown is as sick as ever  |
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| Pazflor |
Posted on 27-05-2010 16:05
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Greipel! |
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| BouBBox |
Posted on 27-05-2010 16:07
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Where is Bonnet?
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| ruben |
Posted on 27-05-2010 16:09
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10th or something.
Even top sprinter Elijzen did better than Bonnet  |
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| Smowz |
Posted on 27-05-2010 16:09
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Greipal, Dean?, Sabatini, Henderson...
Enjoyed the Brown - Pozzato fight for Henderson's wheel then Griepal comes around and slots on.
Good Sky train but Henderson exposed too far out and he wasn't quick enough today. Actually nice to see one of these sprint stages quite a thrilling little chase there. |
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| BouBBox |
Posted on 27-05-2010 16:11
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ruben wrote:
10th or something.
Even top sprinter Elijzen did better than Bonnet
Drats >.<
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| ruben |
Posted on 27-05-2010 16:21
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1 - Greipel
2 - Dean
3 - Dall'Antonia
4 - Henderson
5 - Hondo
6 - Brown
7 - L.S. Haedo
8 - Elijzen
9 - Sabatini
10 - Bonnet
11 - Hinault
12 - Donati
13 - Arashiro
14 - Pozzato
15 - Velo
16 - Förster
17 - Claude
18 - Arroyo
19 - Lastras
20 - Bodnar
21 - Basso |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 27-05-2010 16:22
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Smowz wrote:
Greipal, Dean?, Sabatini, Henderson...
Enjoyed the Brown - Pozzato fight for Henderson's wheel then Griepal comes around and slots on.
Good Sky train but Henderson exposed too far out and he wasn't quick enough today. Actually nice to see one of these sprint stages quite a thrilling little chase there.
Just out of curiosity - is there any particular reason as to why you keep calling him Greipal? |
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| roturn |
Posted on 27-05-2010 16:30
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Always said Greipel is one of the best. His illness stopped him in the first week. But he is still there , climbing mountains and winning todays stage quite impressive. |
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| I_Mayo |
Posted on 27-05-2010 16:33
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ruben wrote:
Juan wrote:
I_Mayo wrote:
Juan wrote:
Mmh... Correct me if I'm wrong.
Is REALLY John Gadret 3rd ? 
Oh my God...
and what suprises you in Gadret performance? i think he fits perfectly for this kind of stage
There's a difference between being a rather good climber, with some quite decent results, and finishing 3rd on one of the hardest climbs in Europe, ahead of the likes of Nibali, Scarponi or Basso.
I mean, didn't that stage also perfectly fit Scarponi or Basso, knowing their form ?
You completely disregard one thing
ENDURANCE
A climb after a 200km stage gives much different results, than a climb straight from the start and then finish after 12km
Gadret comes from Cyclocross, where 45m/1h efforts are normal.
He doesn't have the endurance to be with the best climbers after a 200+km stage
Why do people always think a mountain TT is the same as amountain stage? Do people even know what endurance is I wonder
Sorry for quoting so old post (don't know what had happened to PCMDaily)
But Ruben explained, what i told you Juan, with smarter words. If every stage would have only clear and mountain and no flat part, i think Gadret would always be in top 10 maybe even 5, so thats why his 3rd place wasnt a suprise for me.
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| Wilier |
Posted on 27-05-2010 16:45
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Coming back to yesterday's stage. Good ride by Kruijswijk. Remember he's just a neo-pro and it's his first grand tour.
About today. Greipel seems to be back and fit again. |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 27-05-2010 16:49
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good to be back..
yesterday was secure day for favorites..Basso was smiling all day. He have chooses the other day for atack against Arroyo |
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| Il Grillo |
Posted on 27-05-2010 16:53
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The forecast says snow for saturday, they already have a backup route, in case the weather gets worse, without the Gavia but again with Mortirolo ( from another site)
Lets hope they dont need the backup route. I'd like to see the Gavia.
Gli organizzatori del Giro hanno preparato una tappa di riserva, per sabato, nel caso in cui il Gavia diventasse impercorribile. Al momento però, nonostante i 4/6 metri di neve a bordo strada, il tracciato è praticabile. Il Gavia (Cima Coppi - 2618 metri - di questo Giro d’Italia) è l’ultima salita prima dell’arrivo di sabato a Ponte di Legno/Tonale. Il percorso alternativo, in caso di peggioramento del meteo, prevede la partenza sempre da Bormio, giro di boa dopo Tirano con la salita di Trivigno (percorsa in discesa il giorno prima) per proseguire verso Aprica e quindi, scendendo ancora su Tirano, raggiungere Grosio per affrontare il Mortirolo dal versante nord - ovest, inedito per il Giro d’Italia. A 3 chilometri dalla vetta la strada si ricongiunge al “Mortirolo Classico”. Poi discesa impegnativa verso Monno per affrontare infine la salita che porta all’arrivo di Ponte di Legno/Tonale.
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| kumazan |
Posted on 27-05-2010 17:04
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Please, just don't change saturday's stage. Don't do it or I'll hate italians forever. |
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| wackojackohighcliffe |
Posted on 27-05-2010 17:07
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greipel needed that.
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| sosososik |
Posted on 27-05-2010 17:17
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The weather for passo gavia for the next few days https://www.meteo....ogavia.php
If that is correct we should have only rain saturday.. |
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| roturn |
Posted on 27-05-2010 18:13
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Hopefully you are right. I guess Caisse can live without the Gavia but for everybody else it would be awful. |
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| Juan |
Posted on 27-05-2010 18:30
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I_Mayo wrote:
ruben wrote:
Juan wrote:
I_Mayo wrote:
Juan wrote:
Mmh... Correct me if I'm wrong.
Is REALLY John Gadret 3rd ?
Oh my God...
and what suprises you in Gadret performance? i think he fits perfectly for this kind of stage
There's a difference between being a rather good climber, with some quite decent results, and finishing 3rd on one of the hardest climbs in Europe, ahead of the likes of Nibali, Scarponi or Basso.
I mean, didn't that stage also perfectly fit Scarponi or Basso, knowing their form ?
You completely disregard one thing
ENDURANCE
A climb after a 200km stage gives much different results, than a climb straight from the start and then finish after 12km
Gadret comes from Cyclocross, where 45m/1h efforts are normal.
He doesn't have the endurance to be with the best climbers after a 200+km stage
Why do people always think a mountain TT is the same as amountain stage? Do people even know what endurance is I wonder
Sorry for quoting so old post (don't know what had happened to PCMDaily)
But Ruben explained, what i told you Juan, with smarter words. If every stage would have only clear and mountain and no flat part, i think Gadret would always be in top 10 maybe even 5, so thats why his 3rd place wasnt a suprise for me.
I think I've created so sort of new fan-club for John Gadret. I've found a new way for people to take interest in French riders. 
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 27-05-2010 18:48
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Juan wrote:
I've found a new way for people to take interest in French riders.
i generally like French riders 
Especially Thomas Voeckler
There's no point slapping a schleck - Sean Kelly on "Who needs a slap"
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| BouBBox |
Posted on 27-05-2010 18:57
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Go Frenchies!
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RIP Wouter
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