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Dan_Grr |
Posted on 19-04-2009 21:41
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Isso, where did the ONLY reasonable Portuguese rider stayed in the overall classification? |
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Posted on 19-04-2009 21:42
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Last group after working at the front of the pack throughout a big part of the race.
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Dan_Grr |
Posted on 19-04-2009 21:45
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I've dumped $10 on Valverde. He should ditch the yellow bike, it's NOT working.
Edited by Dan_Grr on 19-04-2009 21:45
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Alesle |
Posted on 19-04-2009 21:48
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Ruben wrote:
CrueTrue wrote:
Again, it seemed like a rather 'easy' classic.
You fail @understanding this race.
But that's probably because you never rode there. 90% of those guys are completely dead. I saw dead bodies coming over the line.
Almost nobody has the power to attack on or after the Keuteberg. They are dead. It's quite straight forward really. This race kills the entire peloton. Even Valverde, Cunego, Sanchez and co were completely destroyed. I saw their faces at the finish line.
Cunego wasn't good enough to win, Gilbert wasn't either, because on top of the Keuteberg, that's the hardest place to attack. Almost everybody is at their limit there. And only Gesink, Kroon and Ivanov could attack. They had most left, they were the best guys in the race.
This race is very fair about that.
I'm not going to dispute you, but I found Lampre's quotes after the finish interesting.
teamlampre.com wrote:
“Lampre-NGC ran in a quite good way, but the race became strange in the final part and so the attack by Gesink-Kroon-Ivanov could reach the arrival – Cunego explained – I knew that, if I had wanted to win this race, I had to follow the main opponents and run focused on them, but the race became less harder than what was thought and the victory went away: now we’ll focus the attention on the next appointments in Ardenne, knowing that the condition in good”.
“Our cyclists did perfectly what I had asked to them and I can be satisfied by the team performance – Copeland, Lampre-NGC’s sport director, said – This epilogue of Amstel is due to the fact that the race became not so hard and that some teams were without their captains in the main moment of the race and so no one led the chase to the attackers”. |
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issoisso |
Posted on 19-04-2009 21:52
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Dan_Grr wrote:
Isso, where did the ONLY reasonable Portuguese rider stayed in the overall classification?
There are three of them. Two didn't participate, and the other one finished way back after killing himself for his leaders.
At one point the entire Caisse team had been dropped except for Rodríguez, Valverde and Rui Costa who was setting a high pace for what was left of the peloton (you can't really call it a peloton anymore when all that's left are the 15-20 favorites) |
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ruben |
Posted on 19-04-2009 23:28
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If Cunego was so good (usual bullshit story of a losing cyclist who failed to get into the main move), then explain the following.
At the bottom of the Cauberg, the gap was 6 seconds. With a dying Gesink 2 seconds behind, so that's 4 seconds between Cunego and Gesink.
Then they did NOTHING for 500 meters, which is unexplanable if you want to win, unless you already know you are not good enough to sprint for first place. And then they sprinted from 400m, coming to... 8 seconds of Kroon and Ivanov and finishing 2 seconds behind Gesink (who was dead) altough the closed the time difference in the result.
Then you were simply not good enough.
Cunego -1
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fenian_1234 |
Posted on 20-04-2009 02:41
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Agree with Ruben : Cunego didn't win because the race became easy. |
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Alesle |
Posted on 20-04-2009 08:15
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Well, I agree with you both, but I still found it interesting |
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ruben |
Posted on 20-04-2009 10:53
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Gilbert after the race in the newspapers
"At the top of the Keuteberg, it wasn't easy. When Gesink went, I had just reacted to an attack of Andy Schleck. Everybody was at his max. It's not easy to ride away there."
thus exactly confirming what I already said yesterday |
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knasen |
Posted on 20-04-2009 16:53
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Agree with Ruben. If you have the power you easily take 6seconds on a uphill. |
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Wyman |
Posted on 20-04-2009 22:13
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Great race, got up at 3 am in the morning on saturday and got to valkenburg around 6pm, The cauberg was crazy!, Loads of intoxicated dutch xD.
Managed to find a spot 250m from the line after most of the crowd went back down the hill after the first passage. I'll upload some photos later...
In terms of the race i felt Cunego did as best as he could, at the top of the keutenberg, even if he did have the legs to chase gesink there would have been no point as the 3 saxo banks would have closed him down, once kroon and ivanov went though he was screwed as the teams with multiple riders were represented upfront, and lets face it Cunego just follows wheels at this point.
Then everyone waits for teamates etc...
At the bottom of the cauberg he could have gone but no one is strong enough to ride full gas up there from the bottom and lead the rest Especially as it was a large group..
Well done to Ivanov he attacked on several occasions and deserved it.
Although i would have liked a Cunego victory to sweeten the journey home
Edited by Wyman on 20-04-2009 22:15
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CrueTrue |
Posted on 21-04-2009 08:28
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I'm looking very much forward to see the photos. I'd love to see them in this album: https://pcmdaily.c...lbum_id=13
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alexkr00 |
Posted on 21-04-2009 10:12
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damn. I will probably miss Fleche tomorrow.
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issoisso |
Posted on 21-04-2009 10:33
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I definitely will, as usual. Oh well. |
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Stijn_vranken |
Posted on 21-04-2009 10:43
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ill just look in school with live stream
prevent hangovers --> stay drunk
pozzato, basically the most stupid cyclist around
RIP WW. Gone but not forgotten
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alexkr00 |
Posted on 21-04-2009 10:48
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Ussualy it was in the Easter holiday (when LBL was on the Easter day) but now the Easter was a week sooner or something like that and I will miss it.
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knasen |
Posted on 21-04-2009 11:33
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Fun to read that Lövqvist hope for a good race tomorrow. After his win in Eroica. But The Wall i much harder. And its better cyclist in the race. If he is top ten tomorrow he has done a great race.
Can he win. No. |
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alexkr00 |
Posted on 21-04-2009 11:59
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well with Kirchen out of form he could be Columbia's leader tomorrow. But they also have Albasini.
I hope that the rider with the no.31 will win tomorrow.
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Juan |
Posted on 21-04-2009 17:50
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alexkr00 wrote:
well with Kirchen out of form he could be Columbia's leader tomorrow. But they also have Albasini.
I hope that the rider with the no.31 will win tomorrow.
won't ride |
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alexkr00 |
Posted on 21-04-2009 17:58
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Juan wrote:
alexkr00 wrote:
well with Kirchen out of form he could be Columbia's leader tomorrow. But they also have Albasini.
I hope that the rider with the no.31 will win tomorrow.
won't ride
who?
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