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Tour de France - Pre-race thread
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| Anderis |
Posted on 29-06-2015 20:29
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Shonak wrote:
Why, arn't BMC usually a bit of a fair letdown in Tour TTTs?
They only rode 2 TTTs in Tour during their existence so it's hard to say what's "usually".
One of those TTTs was good (2011), and one mediocre (2013). |
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| rastaff |
Posted on 29-06-2015 20:40
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Greipel seems quite motivated for Le Tour:
https://www.youtu...Br-gamddds
Edited by rastaff on 29-06-2015 20:42
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 29-06-2015 20:51
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I was going true tdf stages..
Really exiting list..favorites dont have many rest stages.
other point..if Sagan wont win a green this will be miracle..or Tinkov fuck up. |
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 29-06-2015 21:08
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Shonak wrote:
Why, arn't BMC usually a bit of a fair letdown in Tour TTTs?
Literally everyone on their team is at least decent (on paper...), I could very well be wrong, but they just seem like the strongest team to me. |
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| Kiserlovski01 |
Posted on 30-06-2015 07:01
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Teams of the big 4:
| Contador | | Froome | | Nibali | | Quintana | | Sagan | | Porte | | Boom | | G. Izagirre  | | Majka | | Roche | | Westra | | Valverde | | Kreuziger | | Poels | | Fuglsang | | Malori | | Rogers | | König | | Scarponi | | Dowsett | | Basso | | Thomas | | Gruzdev | | Erviti | | Bennati | | Kennaugh | | Grivko | | Anacona | | Valgren | | Stannard | | Kangert | | Castroviejo | | Tossato | | Rowe | | Taaramae | | José Herrada |
Think both Kennaugh and Poels will be crucial for Froome, while Fuglsang and Scarponi should be the same for Nibali. Don't get why Tinkoff leaves Kiserlovski at home though. Also happy to see Gorka in TDF |
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 30-06-2015 07:22
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Naxela wrote:
Miguel98 wrote:
Biggest threat for Sagan? Not Kristoff, or Degenkolb. It's clearly, in my opinion, Matthews.
Sagan is a threat? 
I personally think has Kristoff has the best chances winning the jersey. Do anyone know if Bouhanni is injured from the crash yesterday? I saw he had been confirmed for their tour team but anyway, if he's in shape he is with Kristoff my favorite for the green, Matthews a good third competing with Sagan.
Degenkolb is tricky, he might take a stage or two but no more.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 30-06-2015 07:24
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Guido Mukk wrote:
I was going true tdf stages..
Really exiting list..favorites dont have many rest stages.
other point..if Sagan wont win a green this will be miracle..or Tinkov fuck up.
Or the result of the rule change. Most likely combination of all the things mentioned. He will win it though... 
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| parkersay |
Posted on 30-06-2015 07:39
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Naxela wrote:
Miguel98 wrote:
Biggest threat for Sagan? Not Kristoff, or Degenkolb. It's clearly, in my opinion, Matthews.
Sagan is a threat?
I personally think has Kristoff has the best chances winning the jersey. Do anyone know if Bouhanni is injured from the crash yesterday? I saw he had been confirmed for their tour team but anyway, if he's in shape he is with Kristoff my favorite for the green, Matthews a good third competing with Sagan.
Degenkolb is tricky, he might take a stage or two but no more.
Are you saying Bouhanni is a better pick for green than Sagan, Matthews, Degenkolb, or Cavendish? Let's be real, Cofidis and Bouhanni will be happy to have a TdF like Coquard did last year, with plenty of minor stage wins and a podium for green. Even a stage win could be in the cards if it breaks right, but Bouhanni is not at all a top tier favorite to win green. |
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| wogsrus |
Posted on 30-06-2015 08:28
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OGE Lineup
Michael Albasini, 34 (Swtz), Luke Durbridge, 24 (Aus), Simon Gerrans, 35 (Aus), Daryl Impey, 30 (RSA), Michael Matthews, 24 (Aus), Svein Tuft, 38 (Can), Pieter Weening, 34 (Neth), Adam Yates, 22 (GB), Simon Yates, 22 (GB)
Matthews not interested in Green jersey at this stage.
Both the Yates twins will ride for stages, not overall. |
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| Shonak |
Posted on 30-06-2015 08:33
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Kiserlovski01 wrote:
Teams of the big 4:
| Contador | | Froome | | Nibali | | Quintana | | Sagan | | Porte | | Boom | | G. Izagirre | | Majka | | Roche | | Westra | | Valverde | | Kreuziger | | Poels | | Fuglsang | | Malori | | Rogers | | König | | Scarponi | | Dowsett | | Basso | | Thomas | | Gruzdev | | Erviti | | Bennati | | Kennaugh | | Grivko | | Anacona | | Valgren | | Stannard | | Kangert | | Castroviejo | | Tossato | | Rowe | | Taaramae | | José Herrada |
Think both Kennaugh and Poels will be crucial for Froome, while Fuglsang and Scarponi should be the same for Nibali. Don't get why Tinkoff leaves Kiserlovski at home though. Also happy to see Gorka in TDF
No Kiserlovski at Tour makes so no sense especially after strong Dauphine showing. Instead, Contador gets useless Basso, old Rogers and whatever-he-is-up-to Kreuziger, who all rode the Giro. Plus Tossato who is at least doing his job on a daily basis. And Bennati is always fun to see with Bertie. But, Bertie is already at a disadvantage because of the Giro but with such a team, man... Really, do they even have other riders?! Contador will lose to all his rivals time in the TTT... great sigh. Seeing Sagan and Contador for the first time(?) right together in the same race will be fun tho; unpredicted team attacks please and yes.
Astana looks very balanced, the cobblez may belong to them again this year. Fuglsang is also in some nice shape? SKY solid as ever, their mountain train will be favourable to Contador.
Edited by Shonak on 30-06-2015 08:34
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| sutty68 |
Posted on 30-06-2015 10:44
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Official Tour de France startlist minus bib numbers.
https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/T...-startlist |
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| Selwink |
Posted on 30-06-2015 10:48
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The weather forecast in Utrecht for the weekend. Not exactly optimal
Edited by Selwink on 30-06-2015 10:49
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 01-07-2015 12:19
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No worries about Sky, Movistar lineup..
Astana has some fresh legs.
Contador might end alone again..only hope is that Majka will be great as year ago..Kreuziger has reached kind of form.
Basso was already hopless at Giro..Rogers is great road captain but he also has Giro in legs |
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 01-07-2015 12:49
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Selwink wrote:
The weather forecast in Utrecht for the weekend. Not exactly optimal
33 is not the problem. 20 at night IS the problem! #Sweatynights |
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 01-07-2015 12:51
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The Tour will be so freakin hot the first couple of day, at least! I love it. |
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| Lanxess |
Posted on 01-07-2015 17:09
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Dominik Nerz & Emanuel Buchmann will be the big surprise,I mean that... |
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| MartijnVDD |
Posted on 01-07-2015 17:20
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I'm playing this fantasy game and I have one spot left to fill.
The choice is between Thomas, Boom and Cancellara. Who would you pick?
I'll probably transfer him out after the fourth stage, so I only expect him to score points in the opening TT and the cobbled stage.
I could take a guess and go for Fuglsang. He was there in the big echelon stage in 2013, in the 2015 Fleche Wallonne and in the cobbled stage in 2014. Not sure about his TT though... |
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 01-07-2015 17:25
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Lanxess wrote:
Dominik Nerz & Emanuel Buchmann will be the big surprise,I mean that...
Look up Dominik Nerz in the dictionary and you'll get mediocre.
I have no clue about Buchmann, but those Germans believing Nerz will top-10.... yeah, not gonna happen unless over half the field crashes or suddenly get exposed to Ebola
Edit: Its not a real Tour without ruben, that other Dutch guy (havent seen him jn ages in here) and me getting in constant fights  Please come back
Edited by Riis123 on 01-07-2015 17:30
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 01-07-2015 17:32
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MartijnVDD wrote:
I'm playing this fantasy game and I have one spot left to fill.
The choice is between Thomas, Boom and Cancellara. Who would you pick?
I'll probably transfer him out after the fourth stage, so I only expect him to score points in the opening TT and the cobbled stage.
I could take a guess and go for Fuglsang. He was there in the big echelon stage in 2013, in the 2015 Fleche Wallonne and in the cobbled stage in 2014. Not sure about his TT though...
Wouldnt pick Fuglsang, he has become very mediocre on TT's, instead more of less only focusing on his climbing. |
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| Jesleyh |
Posted on 01-07-2015 17:39
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Oh Ruben is still around, in PCM 15 sections at least, last post of 2 days ago. Could still join TdF discussions and argue with you.
But if you want I can take over his role? 
Although Mollema is not at a Dutch team anymore so I don't really care much about your criticism on him haha. Just hands off Wilco
@Martijn
Ouch difficult one. Would say Cance, but unsure.
Not sure about Fugl, wouldn't go for him.
Edited by Jesleyh on 01-07-2015 17:40
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