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Critérium du Dauphiné Libéré
Karl_rab
issoisso wrote:
Karl_rab wrote:
but we need riders from other teams like moreau and ricco. If you have a look at our team here the only good guys are: Brown, Menchov, Weening and De Groot. the rest are weak and inexsperienced.


4 good guys there is a solid team. but I disagree, since I think you've got more than that. De Maar may with experience become a very good rider. Niermann is a solid helper with a lot of experience, Eltink is a good climber, although nothing outstanding, and is still relatively young.

quite a good team.

But when you look at the peloton we only have 4 or 5 riders in there because the rest have dropped of the back. And that was only on yesterdays stage. But it happens in the other races like the giro. And i agree maar and eltnik will both be good riders but this is the liberie and we need to put in a strong team to win these rides.
Edited by Karl_rab on 13-06-2007 15:53
 
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Sorry issoisso, i missed that with all the Rabobank talk Wink
 
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issoisso
Karl_rab wrote:
But when you look at the peloton we only have 4 or 5 riders in there because the rest have dropped of the back. And that was only on yesterdays stage. But it happens in the other races like the giro. And i agree maar and eltnik will both be good riders but this is the liberie and we need to put in a strong team to win these rides.


but with that kind of thought, the big riders would get burned out riding all big races, and the younger ones would never get any chance to improve.

that's the philosophy of most football clubs, and it's a horrible mistake by them. I think it would be a very bad choice for any cycling team, let alone for one with the youth academy that Rabobank has...

I think the bottom line is: the dauphine is NOT one of Rabobank's top priorities, so these results are more than acceptable, and a stage win or top-5 overall would be great


Karl_rab wrote:
Sorry issoisso, i missed that with all the Rabobank talk Wink


no need to apologize. the reason I put that there was so you'd know about the double 1-2....and to save me from re-writing it Pfft
Edited by issoisso on 13-06-2007 16:12
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Karl_rab
But rabobank has a second team in the continental league for that very purpose.
 
issoisso
Karl_rab wrote:
But rabobank has a second team in the continental league for that very purpose.


you're saying they can become very good riders by riding in such fabulous races as the Settimana Lombarda riding against guys like Eddy Ratti?? Frown


you can't look at it like that. to be the best AT ANYTHING, you must face the best.

you'll never become better riding against worse opposition than you.
Edited by issoisso on 13-06-2007 16:43
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Karl_rab
How come we arnt riding dekker. He has a great future ahead of him but we only ride him in races like the tour de swisse and the tour of romandie. He wins but against nobodies.
 
Addy291
maybe they're just trying to keep him as fresh as possible for the Tour de France, but there's no way he'll have any form going into it
 
issoisso
he rode luxembourg, and is now scheduled for Suisse, nationals and then Tour. it's only natural that he took a break before it, considering how long he'd been riding for..


and by the way...Romandie...nobodies??? Frown
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Phanekim
Everytime i see a pic of vino...i think, man that guy is gonna die of skin cancer.
 
Ashton89
Phanekim wrote:
Everytime i see a pic of vino...i think, man that guy is gonna die of skin cancer.


Funny thought though. Grin Why do you get theese thoughts ? Grin
 
Smoothie
I always think he looks a bit worried...
 
Karl_rab
Ahead of tommorows stage i think the main contenders will be Valverde, Evans, Menchov (although he's not fully fit) and liephiemer maybe moreau if he really wants this.
 
Smoothie
I really hope valverde can tick all the boxes this time, It always seems that we always want Valverde to do well, but when it comes to it its always a bit dissapointing. Maybe because this time its a bigger race and preperation for the Tour he might do better.
 
Ashton89
I really wanna see what Vino can do tomorrow. None of the TdF favourite's are 100% fit yet.
 
Phanekim
My prediction is Moreau on top of Ventoux.
 
0buKKaKe
well it looks like Vuelta 06 again Grin ... watch for Vino, Kasha and Alejandro Belmonte B)

btw Vino said that he will probably help Kasheshkin to take overall lead to help boost his morale, he is not giving himself any targets at DL, because his main objectives is ofcourse TdF07

My prediction is Moreau on top of Ventoux.


Shock did you saw how much he was struggeling in TT ???

 
Ashton89
Andrey Kashechkin is going to win the stage today. Just wait and see Grin
Or I hope that Conterdor can do well today but I doubt it because he isn't as fit as some of the others.
 
CrueTrue
Enqlebass: I think, Kashechkin will win too. Vino will help him, and as a "thank you" Kashechkin will help Vino to the win in TdF Wink
 
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Ashton89
CrueTrue wrote:
Enqlebass: I think, Kashechkin will win too. Vino will help him, and as a "thank you" Kashechkin will help Vino to the win in TdF Wink


Yes but I hope that Sastre will do well in TdF too Grin hehe because we danes have to support Team CSC Grin
But yes Astana has a fantastic tour-team Smile
Edited by Ashton89 on 14-06-2007 14:18
 
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(-5) for VinoBPfft
 
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