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| The Rider |
Posted on 15-02-2015 10:23
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Perhaps the first decent bit of luck all race for the team: Soto Pereira takes second after being on course with a helpful wind by the sounds of it.
Txurruka moves down a place by 4 goddamn seconds, was afraid that would happen after that anti-climax of a stage 19, but the good, unexpected, TT finish does make up for that one. Maybe Aguilar will sprint on the final stage for a decent place. |
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| Marcovdw |
Posted on 15-02-2015 10:27
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Haga  Haga Haga
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| NTTHRASH |
Posted on 16-02-2015 17:42
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Dyball coming up big here! Great racing by Kazzinc also, shame they couldn't pull anything out either.
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| Marcovdw |
Posted on 16-02-2015 17:44
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First of all, massive thank you to tsmoha for such great reports
Second, good sprint by Stroetinga and Friedman 
And of course, great job by Chad finishing fifth in the GC
Overall, quite succesful race for us, should be safe from the last position!
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| Levi4life |
Posted on 16-02-2015 17:46
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I'm happy with that. Bad luck for Eastman but I think the points haul will be significant enough to guarantee the completion of our Americas Tour ranking.
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 16-02-2015 17:48
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Cannot complain. Two stage wins, a handfull of stage top's. Some nice breakaway riding. Certainly a gigantic improvement on the previous few months of racing. Downside being only 15th in GC, was hoping to challenge top 10.
It's a solid collection of points but i think Mobil and Belarus got more, as did some of the inactive teams we're trying to reach.
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 16-02-2015 17:58
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Yay, another stage win. 
Shame we failed hard GC-wise, but I still come out happy. I think B3B scored more points than us, and Belarus too. So not that good, but we still have a couple of races left for us to gain points. #BelieveInCabrera |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 16-02-2015 18:01
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Time to answer those ranking point questions then. All credit to roturn for compiling the Ranking points for the race.
 | Heineken-Cal Giant | 428 |  | Repsol-Cativen | 422 |  | Kazzinc Procycling | 251 |  | In-n-Out Racing p/b Auchan | 229 |  | Magna-Ryanair | 221 |  | BelarusBank Pro Cycling | 148 |  | Wounded Warrior | 138 |  | Bonsucro | 123 |  | Team Chiquita-Universal | 81 |  | Boeing-Bulgaria Bicycling | 80 |  | Mobil - Aeropostal Ciclismo | 67 |  | Meiji - Cannondale | 57 |
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 16-02-2015 18:05
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I take back my happy comments, 3.8pprd is not good and 80pts in a low total. Incredibly annoying to see 1032 of 2245 points (46%) going to inactive teams but we are still fighting and if you "C"-team can step up like this there is hope our leaders might have a trick or two left to give.
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| tsmoha |
Posted on 16-02-2015 18:10
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Well, that's the ToA
Meiji, Mobil and Boeing obviously with a bummer. Scoring almost no GC-points here is neck breaking. So two stages ain't that much, really.
Agree about those inactive teams like Repsol, Magna, Wounded or Kazzinc. But this race is always a gamble.
Edited by tsmoha on 16-02-2015 18:11
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 16-02-2015 18:16
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With my team every race is a gamble  Was a fun race though and one i will always come back to for role-play reasons rather than smart planning moves (my team in a nut-shell)
Cheers for the reports as well of course
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| roturn |
Posted on 16-02-2015 18:16
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I expected Mobil to be in trouble after this race when seeing them on the startlist.
And even with 2 stage wins in the end, it indeed was a bad choice to go here.
Very unlucky for them with only 3 PPRD. Far too less to avoid relegation I think.
Some nice surprises in the Top10 there and good for Bonsucro that Txurruka got a little bit even though Nicacio could have podiumed here.
Next year I might try to be here as well. Depending on the exact profiles this is and obviously also on the exact calendar and my team. Also this is only when I relegate.
Thanks a lot to tsmoha for all those reports.
Edited by roturn on 16-02-2015 18:17
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| Smowz |
Posted on 16-02-2015 18:26
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I'm afraid as nice as it is to race the Tour of America, as things stand it is highly likely to become a waste of race days unless you have a really good GC guy for a PCT team.
Of course not everyone should be obsessed with high positions and it seemed to work out okay for Belerus. But for Meiji it was a bit of downer, still they could still be on for Protour perhaps.
Liked to follow this - Eastman basically very unlucky. It should have been the race for him really, Kashechkin did ride well and was agressive early on but Eastman was just better overall on the big queen stages. Thrilled to see Rodas going well - great result from him and he continues to produce one or two good results a year to nab himself a team and occasional leadership role.
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 16-02-2015 18:35
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Thanks for all the great reports tsmoha. Glad I didnt have to do another GT this season
Tour of America is always going to be a gamble that will not work for many teams. It will work for some - but not most - but that risk is pretty clear from the outset. It's never meant to be the big decisive race of the division, like GTs are in PT.
Perhaps it could cost a few less race days to enter next year, while still having 21 stages, that could be something to consider. It's nice for some CT teams to get Top 10s in a C1 race though!
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| Smowz |
Posted on 16-02-2015 18:40
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Yeah it maybe a C1 race, but one that should encourage CT teams that they should have chances really. Certainly as a CT team with a good GC rider and some good sprinters it may well be a worthwhile gamble as it should give great chances of strong points scoring and a chance for a load of XP.
By the way - it needs to be said more often just fantastic work tsmoha. Yet another fine bunch of reports and it certainly doesn't stop there with him continuing to supply and frankly inspire the rest of us to report.
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| NTTHRASH |
Posted on 16-02-2015 18:58
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tsmoha wrote:
Well, that's the ToA
Meiji, Mobil and Boeing obviously with a bummer. Scoring almost no GC-points here is neck breaking. So two stages ain't that much, really.
Agree about those inactive teams like Repsol, Magna, Wounded or Kazzinc. But this race is always a gamble.
I'm sorry about the inactivity--I often don't have much to comment on, but I do still check in. I figure there's no point in commenting on every race thread, but I forget it makes me look poor. Thanks for the reports! 
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| roturn |
Posted on 16-02-2015 19:05
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NTTHRASH wrote:
tsmoha wrote:
Well, that's the ToA
Meiji, Mobil and Boeing obviously with a bummer. Scoring almost no GC-points here is neck breaking. So two stages ain't that much, really.
Agree about those inactive teams like Repsol, Magna, Wounded or Kazzinc. But this race is always a gamble.
I'm sorry about the inactivity--I often don't have much to comment on, but I do still check in. I figure there's no point in commenting on every race thread, but I forget it makes me look poor. Thanks for the reports!
Well. There is some activity needed in this game. The reporters spend a lot of their free time to play and write reports. So just by checking in but not commenting, this is not much reward for the reporter`s effort.
Even if the race was not that important/good for you, it was still a race and I guess this should be enough to at least post something for every race or better every stage. And may it only be a thanks to the reporter.
Having a race discussion with almost no talking is really frustrating for a reporter and the Tour of America surely was a really bad example when seeing the startlist and the amount of posts by involved managers.
I mean Dyball was having a hell of a race here. And still you only posted after 21 stages!
Edited by roturn on 16-02-2015 19:06
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| The Rider |
Posted on 16-02-2015 19:25
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Thanks for all the race tsmoha, incredible, where would we be without you!
A shockingly terrible for us, when I say shocking - I mean shocking, I would say if you replayed this race 100 times we wouldn't do as badly (no stage win, c'mon!!!!!!)... All the more a shame as I was probably the only active manager REALLY looking forward to this one. 
As it is BelarusBank Pro Cycling score more points than us, and if it isn't clear why that is a ginormous, face-palming, joke here are the two teams:
Yeah, the top one outscores the bottom one in a three week stage race. 
Txurruka, didn't over-perform, but does well to make the top 10 for some decent points after coming from well back, despite all the TT kilometres. So that is something to take away from the race.
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| tsmoha |
Posted on 16-02-2015 19:30
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I second roturn's words here. Well said
I mean, afaik, you've been quite active on the forum on regular base. But haven't seen many Wounded-comments in the past few months. Correct me if i'm wrong, but that's why i decided to comment on Dyball's performance in your place.
Anyway, thanks all for the kind words on the reports. I enjoyed doing this race, as it brought some solid AI with fairly few breakaway wins and especially many bunch sprints in the flat stages. Some tough luck for Nicacio and Eastman, but both teams came out pretty solid after all.
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 16-02-2015 19:36
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The Rider wrote:
All the more a shame as I was probably the only active manager REALLY looking forward to this one.
Hello! I really look forwards to every race that isn't a time trial or sprint
You were deeply unlucky with this race but that's the way it goes sometimes. Echo thoughts on WWR though
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