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Tour de France 2012: Pre-Race thread
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| fickman |
Posted on 13-06-2012 12:09
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Its Official without Andy this is going to be the worst Tour ever. 5 Mountain Team TT and 3 Flat ITT. 975.4 kms of TTT. Get used to Colors Black and Blue, beacause thats all we are going to see almost every day.
And the Final Standings are.
Individual GC:
Wiggins
Evans
Van den Broeck
Froome
Nibali
Gesink
Rogers
Menchov
Schleck
Porte
Team GC:
Sky
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| Neillster |
Posted on 13-06-2012 12:15
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SportingNonsense wrote:
Abelbaba wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
Abelbaba wrote:
FreitasPCM wrote:
Something tells me plenty of breakaways in the mountains will succeed...
not if sky is working for wiggins... (like in paris nice, and Dauphiné)
Sky arent going to be chasing down breakaways on every stage at the Tour. Unless they have rubbish tactics, which some might argue... 
we will see, maby they are aiming for the green jersey as well, and like the giro, they will chase becouse of an intermidiate sprint...
I agree, Sky are too canny a team to try and chase down every break, particularly if they're working for Cavendish as well as Wiggins. Now they'll only make the pace if they have to (i.e. dangerous riders up the road) and even then they'll still have to do a lot of work.
You overestimate them if you think they can chase everything. They physically won't be able to - somethings will have to give. Wouldnt make sense for them to chase for either intermediate sprints, or mountain breakaways |
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| Neillster |
Posted on 13-06-2012 12:16
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SportingNonsense wrote:
Abelbaba wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
Abelbaba wrote:
FreitasPCM wrote:
Something tells me plenty of breakaways in the mountains will succeed...
not if sky is working for wiggins... (like in paris nice, and Dauphiné)
Sky arent going to be chasing down breakaways on every stage at the Tour. Unless they have rubbish tactics, which some might argue...
we will see, maby they are aiming for the green jersey as well, and like the giro, they will chase becouse of an intermidiate sprint...
You overestimate them if you think they can chase everything. They physically won't be able to - somethings will have to give. Wouldnt make sense for them to chase for either intermediate sprints, or mountain breakaways
I agree, Sky are too canny a team to try and chase down every break, particularly if they're working for Cavendish as well as Wiggins. Now they'll only make the pace if they have to (i.e. dangerous riders up the road) and even then they'll still have to do a lot of work. |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 13-06-2012 12:56
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Sky's going to have to work hard though, don't underestimate that. Wiggins appears to be good, but Cadel's still my fav for GC in TDF. With Schleck gone, we'll have much less action in mountains, though. |
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| Schleck96 |
Posted on 13-06-2012 13:08
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Andy will go the Vuelta. Contador vs Schleck I guess. If that happens I think that Schleck is going to have is ass kicked.... |
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| usto |
Posted on 13-06-2012 13:10
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fickman wrote:
Its Official without Andy this is going to be the worst Tour ever. 5 Mountain Team TT and 3 Flat ITT. 975.4 kms of TTT. Get used to Colors Black and Blue, beacause thats all we are going to see almost every day.
And the Final Standings are.
Individual GC:
Wiggins
Evans
Van den Broeck
Froome
Nibali
Gesink
Rogers
Menchov
Schleck
Porte
Team GC:
Sky
BMC +1 Week
Sammy? |
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| kumazan |
Posted on 13-06-2012 13:10
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Schleck96 wrote:
Andy will go the Vuelta. Contador vs Schleck I guess. If that happens I think that Schleck is going to have is ass kicked....
Specially considering that, if he goes to the Vuelta, he'll more likely be short of form there.
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| Schleck96 |
Posted on 13-06-2012 13:13
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kumazan wrote:
Schleck96 wrote:
Andy will go the Vuelta. Contador vs Schleck I guess. If that happens I think that Schleck is going to have is ass kicked....
Specially considering that, if he goes to the Vuelta, he'll more likely be short of form there.
I agree. And even if he is on form, Alberto wants to comeback in great style, so will comeback in top form imo. |
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| fickman |
Posted on 13-06-2012 13:15
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usto wrote:
fickman wrote:
Its Official without Andy this is going to be the worst Tour ever. 5 Mountain Team TT and 3 Flat ITT. 975.4 kms of TTT. Get used to Colors Black and Blue, beacause thats all we are going to see almost every day.
And the Final Standings are.
Individual GC:
Wiggins
Evans
Van den Broeck
Froome
Nibali
Gesink
Rogers
Menchov
Schleck
Porte
Team GC:
Sky
BMC +1 Week
Sammy?
Ur right.
Wiggins
Evans
Van den Broeck
Nibali
Froome
Gesink
Menchov
Sanchez
Schleck
Rogers
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 13-06-2012 13:16
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Schleck96 wrote:
kumazan wrote:
Schleck96 wrote:
Andy will go the Vuelta. Contador vs Schleck I guess. If that happens I think that Schleck is going to have is ass kicked....
Specially considering that, if he goes to the Vuelta, he'll more likely be short of form there.
I agree. And even if he is on form, Alberto wants to comeback in great style, so will comeback in top form imo.
Contador will also have nationality bonus
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| Schleck96 |
Posted on 13-06-2012 13:20
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Schleck96 wrote:
kumazan wrote:
Schleck96 wrote:
Andy will go the Vuelta. Contador vs Schleck I guess. If that happens I think that Schleck is going to have is ass kicked....
Specially considering that, if he goes to the Vuelta, he'll more likely be short of form there.
I agree. And even if he is on form, Alberto wants to comeback in great style, so will comeback in top form imo.
Contador will also have nationality bonus
I forgot that but it is an important fact. |
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 13-06-2012 13:43
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Abelbaba wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
Abelbaba wrote:
FreitasPCM wrote:
Something tells me plenty of breakaways in the mountains will succeed...
not if sky is working for wiggins... (like in paris nice, and Dauphiné)
Sky arent going to be chasing down breakaways on every stage at the Tour. Unless they have rubbish tactics, which some might argue...
we will see, maby they are aiming for the green jersey as well, and like the giro, they will chase becouse of an intermidiate sprint...
They are not aiming for Green looking by their reactions...
Cav will not finish the Tour in my eyes, will try to grab few stage wins and do Worlds Jersey proud and pull out. That is backed up by how seriously he's taking preparation for Olympics, he lost 4kg to be best for Olympics.
Sutton and Brailsford know this is best EVER chance for a Brit to win Tour mate. Cav will have not much support except Pate and EBH as I think Eisel might not go. Team is focused on Wiggo.
Edited by Alakagom on 13-06-2012 13:44
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| Katusha |
Posted on 13-06-2012 13:46
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fickman wrote:
usto wrote:
fickman wrote:
Its Official without Andy this is going to be the worst Tour ever. 5 Mountain Team TT and 3 Flat ITT. 975.4 kms of TTT. Get used to Colors Black and Blue, beacause thats all we are going to see almost every day.
And the Final Standings are.
Individual GC:
Wiggins
Evans
Van den Broeck
Froome
Nibali
Gesink
Rogers
Menchov
Schleck
Porte
Team GC:
Sky
BMC +1 Week
Sammy?
Ur right.
Wiggins
Evans
Van den Broeck
Nibali
Froome
Gesink
Menchov
Sanchez
Schleck
Rogers
No no 
Wiggins
Nibali
Evans
Sanchez
Gesink
Menchov
Van den Broeck
Schleck
Rogers
Porte 
Edited by Katusha on 13-06-2012 13:46
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| Tilion |
Posted on 13-06-2012 13:48
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andy will not start in Tour, if nobody wrote about it already;p |
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 13-06-2012 13:58
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Hesjedal.
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 13-06-2012 13:58
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Tilion wrote:
andy will not start in Tour, if nobody wrote about it already;p
The last few pages are all about that.
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 13-06-2012 13:58
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Tilion wrote:
andy will not start in Tour, if nobody wrote about it already;p
Oh it's just about been the topic for the last 2 pages  |
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 13-06-2012 14:15
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Honestly, I think this will be a very exciting Tour! Just like 08 when Contador wasn't allowed to ride, which made for a pretty good race, atleast imo.
Roche would be an outside favourite too, and what about Rolland, Vanendert, heck maybe even Valverde if they are riding?
I still see a lack of attacking riders though, but hopefully I'm proven wrong.
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| ruben |
Posted on 13-06-2012 14:18
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 13-06-2012 14:19
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valverde321 wrote:
Honestly, I think this will be a very exciting Tour! Just like 08 when Contador wasn't allowed to ride, which made for a pretty good race, atleast imo.
Roche would be an outside favourite too, and what about Rolland, Vanendert, heck maybe even Valverde if they are riding?
I still see a lack of attacking riders though, but hopefully I'm proven wrong.
Vanendert isn't a real threat to GC, but he could go for a stage win!
Rolland isn't the greatest TT rider, but I see him riding top 10-15
EDIT: Ruben, wtf is that All good riders, but I don't see them riding top 5, altogether
Edited by Ian Butler on 13-06-2012 14:21
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