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| cuxu |
Posted on 11-04-2011 16:59
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Well, I´ve already played your P-R version and it´s is more realistic than the Cyanide one. The winner was Cancellara. Thirty seconds behind a group of 3. 1 min behind a group of 10-15, then a big group with 70-80 and then 4-5 "Autobus". |
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Posted on 11-04-2011 18:50
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roturn wrote:
So as in all classics I recommend time gaps of 7 or lower, even if it`s not important actually in one day classics but looks better afterwards.
I've just tried it, playing on Extreme without doing anything with Landbowkrediet: (time gaps of 7)
Spoiler | 1 | Thor Hushovd | Team Garmin - Cervélo | 6h37'08 | | 2 | Fabian Cancellara | Leopard Trek | + 1'20 | | 3 | Tom Boonen | Quick·Step Cycling Team | s.t. | | 4 | Juan Antonio Flecha | Sky ProCycling | + 1'41 | | 5 | Alessandro Ballan | BMC Racing Team | + 1'52 | | 6 | Filippo Pozzato | Katusha Team | s.t. | | 7 | Heinrich Haussler | Team Garmin - Cervélo | + 2'00 | | 8 | Matti Breschel | Rabobank Cycling Team | + 2'09 | | 9 | Leif Hoste | Katusha Team | + 3'19 | | 10 | Wouter Weylandt | Leopard Trek | + 4'47 | | 11 | George Hincapie | BMC Racing Team | + 6'23 | | 12 | Niki Terpstra | Quick·Step Cycling Team | + 6'37 | | 13 | Manuel Quinziato | BMC Racing Team | + 7'07 | | 14 | Nick Nuyens | Saxo Bank SunGard | s.t. | | 15 | Bernhard Eisel | HTC - Highroad | + 7'53 | | 16 | Sébastien Hinault | AG2R La Mondiale | s.t. | | 17 | Johan Van Summeren | Team Garmin - Cervélo | + 8'09 | | 18 | Stuart O'Grady | Leopard Trek | s.t. | | 19 | Steve Chainel | FDJ | + 8'40 | | 20 | Sebastian Langeveld | Rabobank Cycling Team | + 10'54 | | 21 | Martin Elmiger | AG2R La Mondiale | s.t. | | 22 | Frédéric Guesdon | FDJ | s.t. | | 23 | Marcus Burghardt | BMC Racing Team | + 11'10 | | 24 | Maxim Iglinskiy | Pro Team Astana | s.t. | | 25 | Lars Boom | Rabobank Cycling Team | s.t. | | 26 | Roger Hammond | Team Garmin - Cervélo | s.t. | | 27 | Luca Paolini | Katusha Team | + 11'58 | | 28 | Grégory Rast | Team RadioShack | + 12'38 | | 29 | Óscar Freire | Rabobank Cycling Team | + 15'02 | | 30 | Martijn Maaskant | Team Garmin - Cervélo | + 15'10 | | 31 | Edvald Boasson Hagen | Sky ProCycling | s.t. | | 32 | Andreas Klier | Team Garmin - Cervélo | + 15'18 | | 33 | Kevin Van Impe | Quick·Step Cycling Team | s.t. | | 34 | Paolo Longo Borghini | Liquigas - Cannondale | s.t. | | 35 | Frederik Willems | Omega Pharma - Lotto | + 15'26 | | 36 | Daniel Oss | Liquigas - Cannondale | s.t. | | 37 | Sep Vanmarcke | Team Garmin - Cervélo | s.t. | | 38 | Maarten Tjallingii | Rabobank Cycling Team | s.t. | | 39 | Dominic Klemme | Leopard Trek | + 15'34 | | 40 | Sylvain Chavanel | Quick·Step Cycling Team | + 15'58 | | 41 | Hayden Roulston | HTC - Highroad | + 16'22 | | 42 | Stijn Vandenbergh | Katusha Team | + 16'46 | | 43 | Yohan Offredo | FDJ | + 17'02 | | 44 | Danilo Hondo | Lampre - ISD | + 17'34 | | 45 | Bert De Waele | Landbouwkrediet | + 17'58 | | 46 | Grega Bole | Lampre - ISD | + 18'54 | | 47 | Kurt-Asle Arvesen | Sky ProCycling | + 19'02 | | 48 | Jeremy Hunt | Sky ProCycling | s.t. | | 49 | Sébastien Rosseler | Team RadioShack | + 19'34 | | 50 | Sébastien Chavanel | Team Europcar | + 19'58 | | 51 | Greg Van Avermaet | BMC Racing Team | s.t. | | 52 | Allan Davis | Pro Team Astana | + 20'22 | | 53 | André Greipel | Omega Pharma - Lotto | + 20'38 | | 54 | Maarten Wynants | Rabobank Cycling Team | + 20'54 | | 55 | Coen Vermeltfoort | Rabobank Cycling Team | + 21'02 | | 56 | Sergueï Ivanov | Katusha Team | s.t. | | 57 | Dimitriy Muravyev | Team RadioShack | + 21'10 | | 58 | David Boucher | Omega Pharma - Lotto | s.t. | | 59 | Peter Sagan | Liquigas - Cannondale | s.t. | | 60 | Bobbie Traksel | Landbouwkrediet | s.t. | | 61 | Martin Mortensen | Leopard Trek | s.t. | | 62 | Matthew Hayman | Sky ProCycling | + 21'18 | | 63 | Geraint Thomas | Sky ProCycling | + 21'26 | | 64 | Aleksandr Kuschynski | Katusha Team | s.t. | | 65 | Kasper Klostergaard | Saxo Bank SunGard | s.t. | | 66 | Lloyd Mondory | AG2R La Mondiale | + 21'34 | | 67 | Simon Spilak | Lampre - ISD | s.t. | | 68 | Murilo Fischer | Team Garmin - Cervélo | + 21'50 | | 69 | Assan Bazayev | Pro Team Astana | s.t. | | 70 | Bert Grabsch | HTC - Highroad | s.t. | | 71 | Jürgen Roelandts | Omega Pharma - Lotto | + 21'58 | | 72 | Kristof Vandewalle | Quick·Step Cycling Team | s.t. | | 73 | Bert Scheirlinckx | Landbouwkrediet | + 22'06 | | 74 | Nikolas Maes | Quick·Step Cycling Team | s.t. | | 75 | Mathieu Perget | AG2R La Mondiale | s.t. | | 76 | Andriy Grivko | Pro Team Astana | + 22'22 | | 77 | Taylor Phinney | BMC Racing Team | s.t. | | 78 | Vladimir Gusev | Katusha Team | + 22'30 | | 79 | Kristof Goddaert | AG2R La Mondiale | s.t. | | 80 | Mirco Lorenzetto | Pro Team Astana | s.t. | | 81 | Baden Cooke | Saxo Bank SunGard | + 23'02 | | 82 | Dominique Rollin | FDJ | + 23'50 | | 83 | Lars Ytting Bak | HTC - Highroad | s.t. | | 84 | John Degenkolb | HTC - Highroad | s.t. | | 85 | Ian Stannard | Sky ProCycling | + 24'06 | | 86 | Joost Posthuma | Leopard Trek | s.t. | | 87 | Tomas Vaitkus | Pro Team Astana | s.t. | | 88 | Robbie McEwen | Team RadioShack | s.t. | | 89 | Jens Debusschere | Omega Pharma - Lotto | + 24'14 | | 90 | Tom Stamsnijder | Leopard Trek | + 24'22 | | 91 | Nikolai Trussov | Katusha Team | s.t. | | 92 | Adam Hansen | Omega Pharma - Lotto | + 25'10 | | 93 | Gerald Ciolek | Quick·Step Cycling Team | + 27'10 | | 94 | Saïd Haddou | Team Europcar | s.t. | | 95 | Wesley Sulzberger | FDJ | s.t. | | 96 | Mauro Finetto | Liquigas - Cannondale | + 27'18 | | 97 | Fabio Sabatini | Liquigas - Cannondale | s.t. | | 98 | Michael Mørkøv | Saxo Bank SunGard | s.t. | | 99 | Matteo Tosatto | Saxo Bank SunGard | + 27'26 | | 100 | Mathieu Claude | Team Europcar | s.t. | | 101 | Kenny De Haes | Omega Pharma - Lotto | + 27'34 | | 102 | Frédéric Amorison | Landbouwkrediet | + 27'42 | | 103 | Yuriy Krivtsov | AG2R La Mondiale | s.t. | | 104 | Adrien Petit | Cofidis, le crédit en ligne | s.t. | | 105 | Francisco José Ventoso | Movistar Team | + 28'38 | | 106 | Imanol Erviti | Movistar Team | s.t. | | 107 | Jan Ghyselinck | HTC - Highroad | + 28'46 | | 108 | Jakob Fuglsang | Leopard Trek | s.t. | | 109 | Vicente Reynès | Omega Pharma - Lotto | + 29'10 | | 110 | Chad Beyer | BMC Racing Team | s.t. | | 111 | Ronan Van Zandbeek | Skil - Shimano | + 29'26 | | 112 | Davy Commeyne | Landbouwkrediet | + 30'06 | | 113 | Frederique Robert | Quick·Step Cycling Team | + 31'02 |
It might be just me, but it's rare to get a big group reaching the velodrome in my game. So I'll still play with time gaps of 20, or maybe 15.
Edited by FreitasPCM on 11-04-2011 18:50
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| roturn |
Posted on 11-04-2011 22:52
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Just did the first test with MSR. I was able to sprint for the win and finished 7th. So far so good. But therefore lots of stopping lags during the stage. So I have to redo the sea. Also I consider to have narrow roads on the uphill parts to split the peloton a bit. So a group of 68 riders sprinted for the win.
Will take another look on it tomorrow. |
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| kissaha |
Posted on 12-04-2011 15:30
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roturn wrote:
But therefore lots of stopping lags during the stage. So I have to redo the sea.
I have wondered why that happens to some stages, is it only because you have done something wrong with the sea? |
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| roturn |
Posted on 12-04-2011 15:32
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In my experience this happens if you don`t build the sea in one turn.
So if you click a wrong button and then have to continue the old sea waypoint. Or if you have to move one of the waypoints later. For some reason then it happens sometimes. 
Just got MSR working after redoing the sea. Download will be available in the next minutes I think. |
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| roturn |
Posted on 12-04-2011 15:42
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Update
Milan San Remo 2011 in first post.
My first test was a split of 15 riders on the Cipressa with 3-4 sprinters like Freire, Petacchi and Bennati plus some other riders. The next group was with most riders including Cavendish. Greipel lost contact on the Poggio. I was HTC.
The first group saved 40s into the finish.
I tried a lot of different roads. Just normal roads, some normal, some narrow.
In the end I think the best results is this one now. La Manie and Cipressa completely narrow, Poggio uphill narrow, downhill normal.
So there is the possibility of splits or attacks, what`s almost impossible on normal roads. But with the normal downhill road in the end it`s easier to get a good position with your sprinter.
Also there is a 3km flat road in the end, so the sprint is completely flat, although you can theoretically start the preparation with 12km. |
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 12-04-2011 16:05
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Just tested your Paris-Roubaix with a save-game from 2013 (PCM.daily's 2011 DB). I had riders such as Cancellara, Hushovd, Phinney (80 COB) and other great riders, so obviously, I had to animate the race.
Anyway, 100 km to go: 51 riders left in the peloton.
50 km to go: 41 riders
Result:
| 1 | Thor Hushovd | NORWEGIAN | 6h46'21 | | 2 | Tom Boonen | Quick·Step Cycling Team | + 1'19 | | 3 | Matti Breschel | Rabobank Cycling Team | + 1'48 | | 4 | Fabian Cancellara | NORWEGIAN | s.t. | | 5 | Filippo Pozzato | Lampre - ISD | s.t. | | 6 | Sylvain Chavanel | Quick·Step Cycling Team | s.t. | | 7 | Juan Antonio Flecha | Sky ProCycling | s.t. | | 8 | Heinrich Haussler | Team Garmin - Cervélo | s.t. | | 9 | Stijn Devolder | Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team | s.t. | | 10 | Greg Van Avermaet | NORWEGIAN | + 2'34 | | 11 | Taylor Phinney | NORWEGIAN | s.t. | | 12 | Maxim Iglinskiy | Pro Team Astana | s.t. | | 13 | Leif Hoste | Katusha Team | s.t. | | 14 | Matteo De Mai | Lampre - ISD | s.t. | | 15 | Martijn Maaskant | Team Garmin - Cervélo | s.t. | | 16 | Alessandro Ballan | Lampre - ISD | s.t. | | 17 | Bernhard Eisel | HTC - Highroad | s.t. | | 18 | Sep Vanmarcke | Team Garmin - Cervélo | s.t. | | 19 | Tyler Farrar | Omega Pharma - Lotto | s.t. | | 20 | Lars Boom | Rabobank Cycling Team | s.t. | | 21 | Martin Elmiger | AG2R La Mondiale | s.t. |
Spoiler | 22 | Jérôme Baugnies | Quick·Step Cycling Team | + 4'02 | | 23 | Stijn Vandenbergh | Katusha Team | s.t. | | 24 | Guillaume Blot | FDJ | s.t. | | 25 | Björn Leukemans | Omega Pharma - Lotto | s.t. | | 26 | Johnny Hoogerland | Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team | s.t. | | 27 | Fabio Felline | NORWEGIAN | s.t. | | 28 | Gert Steegmans | Quick·Step Cycling Team | s.t. | | 29 | Hayden Roulston | NORWEGIAN | s.t. | | 30 | Wouter Weylandt | NORWEGIAN | s.t. | | 31 | Yohan Offredo | Team Europcar | + 5'40 | | 32 | Gert Dockx | Omega Pharma - Lotto | s.t. | | 33 | Aurélien Duval | Saur - Sojasun | s.t. | | 34 | Dylan Teuns | Omega Pharma - Lotto | s.t. | | 35 | Coen Vermeltfoort | Rabobank Cycling Team | s.t. | | 36 | Matthew Goss | Leopard Trek | + 7'16 | | 37 | Nick Nuyens | Saxo Bank SunGard | s.t. | | 38 | Steve Chainel | Roubaix Lille Métropole | s.t. | | 39 | Frédéric Guesdon | FDJ | s.t. | | 40 | Edvald Boasson Hagen | NORWEGIAN | s.t. | | 41 | Pieter Vanspeybroeck | Quick·Step Cycling Team | + 7'56 | | 42 | Grega Bole | Lampre - ISD | + 11'40 | | 43 | Tomas Vaitkus | HTC - Highroad | s.t. | | 44 | Stéphane Poulhiès | AG2R La Mondiale | s.t. | | 45 | Kristof Goddaert | AG2R La Mondiale | s.t. | | 46 | Olivier Pardini | Quick·Step Cycling Team | s.t. | | 47 | Bert Scheirlinckx | Quick·Step Cycling Team | + 13'40 | | 48 | Kevyn Ista | Cofidis, le crédit en ligne | + 14'04 | | 49 | André Greipel | FDJ | s.t. | | 50 | Mathieu Perget | Cofidis, le crédit en ligne | s.t. | | 51 | Fabien Taillefer | Roubaix Lille Métropole | s.t. | | 52 | Romain Zingle | Cofidis, le crédit en ligne | s.t. | | 53 | Lieuwe Westra | Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team | s.t. | | 54 | Theo Bos | Rabobank Cycling Team | + 15'24 | | 55 | Jimmy Casper | Saur - Sojasun | + 16'52 | | 56 | Jan Ghyselinck | HTC - Highroad | s.t. | | 57 | Aleksejs Saramotins | Cofidis, le crédit en ligne | s.t. | | 58 | Sébastien Joly | Saur - Sojasun | s.t. | | 59 | Arnaud Gérard | FDJ | s.t. | | 60 | Vladimir Gusev | Omega Pharma - Lotto | s.t. | | 61 | Nikolai Trussov | Katusha Team | s.t. | | 62 | William Bonnet | Saur - Sojasun | s.t. | | 63 | Dominic Klemme | Leopard Trek | s.t. | | 64 | Sergueï Ivanov | Katusha Team | s.t. | | 65 | Kasper Klostergaard | Saxo Bank SunGard | + 18'20 | | 66 | Kurt-Asle Arvesen | Sky ProCycling | + 20'12 | | 67 | Marco Marcato | Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team | s.t. | | 68 | Yury Trofimov | Katusha Team | + 21'40 | | 69 | Jimmy Engoulvent | Saur - Sojasun | s.t. | | 70 | Cadel Evans | Pro Team Astana | s.t. | | 71 | Jens Keukeleire | Sky ProCycling | s.t. | | 72 | Maarten Tjallingii | Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team | s.t. | | 73 | Christopher Sutton | Team Garmin - Cervélo | + 22'12 | | 74 | Michal Golas | Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team | s.t. | | 75 | Jan Bakelandts | Omega Pharma - Lotto | + 24'04 | | 76 | Alex Rasmussen | HTC - Highroad | s.t. | | 77 | Jonathan Bellis | Sky ProCycling | s.t. | | 78 | Robert Förster | HTC - Highroad | s.t. | | 79 | Koldo Fernández | Euskaltel - Euskadi | + 24'44 | | 80 | Arnaud Coyot | Saur - Sojasun | s.t. | | 81 | Jürgen Roelandts | Omega Pharma - Lotto | + 25'08 | | 82 | Giovanni Visconti | Lampre - ISD | s.t. | | 83 | Clément Lhotellerie | AG2R La Mondiale | s.t. | | 84 | Michael Albasini | HTC - Highroad | + 26'12 | | 85 | Ian Bibby | Sky ProCycling | + 26'36 | | 86 | Yauheni Hutarovich | Team RadioShack | + 28'20 | | 87 | Sébastien Rosseler | Team RadioShack | s.t. | | 88 | Christian Knees | Sky ProCycling | s.t. |
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| roturn |
Posted on 12-04-2011 16:08
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Thanks for the test.
Quite a surprise that you go for Hushovd instead of Cancellara Except of Hushovd became really huge in your save.
But actually every result like this is better than a 50 rider sprint
Hope the MSR results are also quite good, also it`s harder than cobbled classics as the PCM gameplay isn`t too good on these flat stages with some hills in the end.
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| Pellizotti2 |
Posted on 12-04-2011 16:28
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Finally, San Remo! Thanks for making it. I'm so tired of the old bugged one. Great work! 
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| shin0da_13 |
Posted on 12-04-2011 16:40
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Great and thank you. |
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 12-04-2011 16:43
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What can I say Roturn ? There are still some races to do from the spring classics 
Great job.
Edited by Alakagom on 12-04-2011 16:43
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| roturn |
Posted on 12-04-2011 17:01
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Thanks all.
Well, a few months ago I already wanted to do LBL for example. I never started. And I won`t in the next days I think. Too many other things to do in the following days/weeks.
But as soon as I have some time again I might go for another. |
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| FreitasPCM |
Posted on 12-04-2011 17:04
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Great job with MSR. Tried it three times (), one, finished with a sprint of a group with about 40 cyclists, in which Freire won ahead of Boonen and Davis. Riders like Swift or Cardoso, who didn't finish in the main group in Cyanide's version, finished in the top-10. The other two, there were attacks, one had Cancellara winning solo, ahead of a group of 7 cyclists, then the main peloton, and the other had Ballan and Chavanel sprinting for the win, with the French's win.  |
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| roturn |
Posted on 12-04-2011 17:07
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Thanks for testing again. Are you really sure you have PCM10 and no PCM11 or 12 beta? Your results are always very realistic. |
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| FreitasPCM |
Posted on 12-04-2011 17:39
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roturn wrote:
Thanks for testing again. Are you really sure you have PCM10 and no PCM11 or 12 beta? Your results are always very realistic.
PCM 10 indeed.
That's because when I tested it, I played on extreme, doing anything with Androni. If I interfered in a race, I think it would be different, because I play between normal and hard. |
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| Montolivo |
Posted on 12-04-2011 18:15
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Looks great roturn. Will test the stages and post here for the results later. |
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 12-04-2011 18:19
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Great work roturn.
I dont remember if I voted for you for best stagemaker during the PCM.daily awards but I know who I'll vote for this upcomng year!
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| tsmoha |
Posted on 12-04-2011 18:21
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valverde321 wrote:
Great work roturn.
I dont remember if I voted for you for best stagemaker during the PCM.daily awards but I know who I'll vote for this upcomng year!
#1: + 1! Great races, thank you for doing this special races!
#2: I do remember, that I did vote for you And I know, why I did
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| shin0da_13 |
Posted on 12-04-2011 18:33
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I also tested MSR. Win for Cavendish ( ) in a group of 50 riders. I played with Lampre and attacked on the Cipressa with Cunego. He was later joined by Pozzato but they were catched by the peloton with 3 km to go because i slowed down hoping that Pozzato will go in front and i will have his slipstream in the sprint but he didn't. (fckuing wheelsucker). Managed to get Pettachi over Poggio in the first 10 places with a heartrate of 175, protected by Simoni (dot and 75).
1 Mark Cavendish Team HTC - Columbia 7h14'56
2 Philippe Gilbert Omega Pharma - Lotto s.t.
3 Daniele Bennati Liquigas - Doimo s.t.
4 Fabian Cancellara Team Saxo Bank s.t.
5 Matti Breschel Team Saxo Bank s.t.
6 Allan Davis Astana s.t.
7 Greg Van Avermaet Omega Pharma - Lotto s.t.
8 Óscar Freire Rabobank s.t.
9 Stijn Devolder Quick·Step s.t.
10 Thor Hushovd Cervélo Test Team s.t.
11 Filippo Pozzato Team Katusha s.t.
12 Alessandro Petacchi Lampre - Farnese Vini s.t.
13 Sylvain Chavanel Quick·Step s.t.
14 Jens Voigt Team Saxo Bank s.t.
15 Paul Martens Rabobank s.t.
16 Gerald Ciolek Team Milram s.t.
17 Martin Elmiger AG2R La Mondiale s.t.
18 Niki Terpstra Team Milram s.t.
19 Damiano Cunego Lampre - Farnese Vini s.t.
20 Daniele Pietropolli Lampre - Farnese Vini s.t.
21 Carlos Barredo Quick·Step s.t.
22 Tom Boonen Quick·Step s.t.
23 Gilberto Simoni Lampre - Farnese Vini s.t.
24 Leif Hoste Omega Pharma - Lotto s.t.
25 Danilo Napolitano Team Katusha s.t. |
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| roturn |
Posted on 12-04-2011 18:34
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Thanks all.
@tsmoha: I was always sick of some of these races in my story. Always tried to get good results in MSR for example but never had a hilly sprinter. Then I had Haussler and had to realize that it wasn`t possible due to the narrow road. So hopefully next year will be better
I just know that I didn`t vote for me, but nice to hear that you all like the stages.
As said there won`t be many new stages in the next time. Just if Sporting Nonsense needs some more races for the Man Game.
@shin0da: Thanks for sharing the test. Pity that Cunego couldn`t win but a typical Pozzato At least it`s now possible to get sprinters like Petacchi over the hills.
Edited by roturn on 12-04-2011 18:37
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