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| Shifty |
Posted on 23-10-2009 00:45
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I think that all dopers should face a lifetime ban unless they give up absolutely everything about their methods / suppliers / etc. etc. and if they did that then they would have a much lighter suspension. (Long enough that it wasn't worthwhile to just keep doping then getting banned for a few months then coming back but short enough that it was beneficial to give them the information to get back to making a living, especially for mid-level riders who don't have any other job option)
I think there would be a lot lower rate of doping because:
A.) All doctors and staff who were associated with it would be persecuted (provided it was against the law in whatever country they operated in) and likely fired if not.
B.) Very few riders would ever want to be part of a larger 'Doping Ring' because if anyone from that ring got caught, everyone would likely get caught so most doping operations would be on a smaller scale to being with.
C.) Providing all the things they took and how they passed some tests (As seems to usually be the case, riders passing multiple tests before having a positive) would help WADA and the likes to strengthen anti-doping regulations / procedures.
Solving the world's problems will always be a work in progress,
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| Deadpool |
Posted on 23-10-2009 01:19
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This is my solution to solve the doping problem in cycling. Go back to the medieval court system. No joke, I'm being serious. First of all, with everyone considered guilty until proven innocent, all the suspicious riders (i.e., pretty much everybody) would be charged. Secondly, with punishments such as being drawn and quartered and being tarred and feathered, I don't think anybody would risk it 
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 23-10-2009 08:18
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So, someone mentioned yesterday that several teams were still yet to get their Pro Tour license: Astana, Caisse d'Epargne, Euskaltel, Team Saxo Bank and Team Sky. They have until the 20th of November to turn in the needed documentation to UCI.
The interesting thing is whether the riders are now allowed to cancel their contracts and negotiate with other teams - or if they still have to wait until the final decision on the 20th of November. The rules say (about when the riders are allowed to cancel their contracts): "If, on 20 October of the year preceding a year of registration covered by the present contract, the UCI ProTeam has not submitted a registration file containing the essential documents listed in art. 2.15.069bis."
I suppose that the teams did submit some sort of application, but obviously it wasn't good enough to get the license in the first attempt.
Edit: Danish media is reporting that the riders are indeed allowed to negotiate with other teams. If that really is true, 2 x Schleck, Cancellara, Contador, S. Sanchez, L. L. Sanchez and several other riders are available on the market (if they want to leave).
Edited by CrueTrue on 23-10-2009 08:51
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| issoisso |
Posted on 23-10-2009 09:11
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Only those whose contracts do not predate that ruling can leave. So Contador can't. Not sure about the others.
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 23-10-2009 11:12
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I cant see any of the Saxo Bank'ers to leave. Maybe the two Sanchez'sses but still unlikely.
In short: the world will keep turning.
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 23-10-2009 20:06
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Heh, Saxo Bank reacted to this - according to a team statement, they've received confirmation from UCI that they've gained Pro Tour status for 2010.
Edited by CrueTrue on 23-10-2009 20:06
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| mrlol |
Posted on 24-10-2009 08:14
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CrueTrue wrote:
Heh, Saxo Bank reacted to this - according to a team statement, they've received confirmation from UCI that they've gained Pro Tour status for 2010.
Yeah, I read somewhere that it was an error, and that everything is and was fine. |
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| issoisso |
Posted on 26-10-2009 13:36
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CrueTrue wrote:
And to isso's post, you can add a remarkable quote from El Pais today: "I believe I can win the 2010 Tour. It requires a better team, and I need to improve my climbing"
- Andy Schleck.
Bye, bye, mr. Schleck.
I've always thought Andy was quite the douchebag, and he just keeps on showing it.
Now he's complaining that Sastre didn't give the Schlecks enough credit for their help at winning the Tour.
This would be the Sastre who could've attacked and taken the jersey and likely won the Tour on the Col de la Bonnette where he was feeling great and everyone else was clearly quite dead.
That same Sastre that, before attacking at that moment, asked Frank for permission. Frank said no. Carlos sat in and didn't attack. Lost a major opportunity to win the Tour right there.
Clearly this Carlos person has no respect for others 
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| Ildabaoth |
Posted on 26-10-2009 13:46
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I've just read that interview on elpais.com and yes, a douchebag. Specially something really agressive about Sastre, saying "¡Tiene un problema en la cabeza!", something like "He has a problem in his mind" or something like that. Quite a pity, by the way, because he used to be pretty humble.
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Posted on 24-11-2024 14:44
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| issoisso |
Posted on 26-10-2009 13:48
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I think the best translation would be: "There's something wrong with his head"
He should learn from Contador and just be humble.
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| issoisso |
Posted on 26-10-2009 14:08
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Since this is "bad news for Saxo Bank fans" day, Rasmus Guldhammer apparently says he didn't sign for Saxo Bank because he was given very bad references about Riis and the team.
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| kumazan |
Posted on 26-10-2009 14:28
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issoisso wrote:
I think the best translation would be: "There's something wrong with his head"
He should learn from Contador and just be humble.
I don't think that he isn't humble, but not definitely polite. You can't say that of a former team mate. Anyway, I don't remeber what said Sastre to annoy that much the Schlecks.
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| Roman |
Posted on 26-10-2009 14:43
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issoisso wrote:
Since this is "bad news for Saxo Bank fans" day, Rasmus Guldhammer apparently says he didn't sign for Saxo Bank because he was given very bad references about Riis and the team. Martin Pedersen's words?
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| issoisso |
Posted on 27-10-2009 07:07
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September 2007 - Lotto rider tests positive
April 2008 - Lotto rider tests positive
October 2008 - Rider whose contract was not renewed by another team for strong suspicion of doping is signed by Lotto
May 2009 - Convicted doper says Lotto only signed him after checking his blood passport values to see if he hid his doping well and was therefore a low risk signing
October 2009 - Lotto signs Riccardo Riccò's doctor
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 27-10-2009 09:00
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CrueTrue wrote:
Silence (Omega Pharma) - Lotto has hired José Ibarguren as their new medic. He's previously worked for Fuji-Servetto, Euskaltel ... and Saunier Duval during the Mayo-Ricco-Piepoli era.
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| doddy13 |
Posted on 27-10-2009 09:06
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Eric Rottiers who was a friend of Vandenbroucke has died in Senegal, as well as VDB's friend, he was also the Tour Méditerranéen organiser
Want the weird bit? It was in the same hotel.
He is said to have died of a heart attack.,
Anyway RIP Eric.
Edited by doddy13 on 27-10-2009 09:09
There's no point slapping a schleck - Sean Kelly on "Who needs a slap"
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| Waghlon |
Posted on 27-10-2009 09:07
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That hotel is obviously cursed...
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| Xavier |
Posted on 27-10-2009 11:15
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it's not the same hotel where vdb died, but its the hotel vdb was staying prior to meeting that chick |
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| rjc_43 |
Posted on 27-10-2009 12:16
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Jonny Bellis Update
Posted: 27th October 2009
The GB cycling team has just released this update on Jonny Bellis, who was injured in a motor scooter accident in Italy in September.
"Jonny is doing really well since the last update and is communicating by writing messages on a white board. They are looking into flying him to London shortly."
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| issoisso |
Posted on 27-10-2009 23:09
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Losa doping network update:
Mancebo is another client.
More evidence that LL Sánchez is one. On the day that Paris-Nice finished, Losa received the following text message: "Well done. Your friend won Paris-Nice today. He was like a champion".
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