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AaB-ern
drd23 wrote:
Ok thanks. I just realised that you are basing this on a different db to one im using which is why the list of best averages is different


An other difference may be, that the average I use is not the one used ingame, which is calculated in a somewhat strange way (avg. of a riders 5 best stats except a few). My way is the actual stats average. Smile
Edited by AaB-ern on 31-08-2009 15:58
 
AaB-ern
Uhm, the game rating turned out to be pretty useless. (Norway was above Denmark 1 - bullshit! Pfft)

Some teams with less than 15 riders had 7 stars (2nd best).

Gotta find some other way now to divide into ProTour and Continental.
Edited by AaB-ern on 31-08-2009 17:46
 
Roman
ProTour: Italy 1, Italy 2, Spain 1, Spain 2, France 1, France 2, Belgium 1, Netherlands 1, Germany 1, Russia 1, Denmark 1, Portugal, Australia 1, Great Britain, Switzerland 1, Ukraine, USA 1, Poland 1
other teams in Continental Tour? Smile
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Wiggo
What, France 2 above Belgium 2? Bullshit.
 
SportingNonsense
I would say at least 1 team from: Italy, Spain, France, Belgium, Germany, Netherlands, USA, Australia, Denmark, Russia, Switzerland

That makes 11 then i'd add Great Britain and Luxembourg due to Cav/Wiggins and Schlecks/Kirchen although Great Britain is arguable if Wiggins stats are pre-tour.

Then fill the rest of the ProTour spots with more teams from countries in the first list - 2 more each from Italy and Spain maybe, 1 more for a few others?
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AaB-ern
As Luxembourg only has 12 riders, I do not think they should be a ProTour team.
 
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SportingNonsense
Thats true, 12 wouldnt be enough when races clash
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ursul
cool project
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Gustavovskiy
Nice project AaB-ern

Well after reading all the posts I wonder if it will be playable for more than one season as the transfers would mix all the nationalities...
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bobcatsman
No, the transfers won't mix all the nationalities, he can set 25 as value of nationalism and it will be good.
 
Gustavovskiy
Oh I see

that's great
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drd23
AaB-ern wrote:
drd23 wrote:
Ok thanks. I just realised that you are basing this on a different db to one im using which is why the list of best averages is different


An other difference may be, that the average I use is not the one used ingame, which is calculated in a somewhat strange way (avg. of a riders 5 best stats except a few). My way is the actual stats average. Smile
Have you changed the way the average is displayed in game or just taken the average in say, excel?
 
AaB-ern
Gustavovskiy wrote:
Nice project AaB-ern

Well after reading all the posts I wonder if it will be playable for more than one season as the transfers would mix all the nationalities...


There's a slight possibility that the mixed teams will start signing from other countries, but teams like italy and spain shouldn't be signing other nationalities. Smile

drd23 wrote:
AaB-ern wrote:
drd23 wrote:
Ok thanks. I just realised that you are basing this on a different db to one im using which is why the list of best averages is different


An other difference may be, that the average I use is not the one used ingame, which is calculated in a somewhat strange way (avg. of a riders 5 best stats except a few). My way is the actual stats average. Smile
Have you changed the way the average is displayed in game or just taken the average in say, excel?


Average in excel Smile
 
AaB-ern
From my point of view, the game ranking of teams isn't just the average, it looks like the strength of the captains has a big part in that.

Anyway, looked into the teams, and this is my current proposal of a ProTour of 18 teams:
Italy 1
Italy 2
Spain 1
Spain 2
France 1
France 2
Belgium 1
Germany 1
USA 1
Denmark 1
Switzerland 1
Australia 1
Russia 1
Netherlands 1
Great Britain
Rest of Europe 1
Colombia
Slovenia
Edited by AaB-ern on 01-09-2009 08:53
 
drd23
Surely Belgium 2 would be a stronger team than France 2?

Then again, either one would probably be a good candidate to be demoted to the Continental tour so it probably wont even matter
 
SportingNonsense
Are there enough decent riders in Rest of Europe 1?
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drd23
SportingNonsense wrote:
Are there enough decent riders in Rest of Europe 1?
They'd still be better than France 2 or Belgium 2. Brajkovic, Sergio Paulinho, Spilak, Roche, Martin, Velits brothers, Siutsou, Kiryienka, few 77+ sprinters etc. Seems like a good enough team to me
 
AaB-ern
SportingNonsense wrote:
Are there enough decent riders in Rest of Europe 1?


Yeah, I think so:

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SportingNonsense
drd23 wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
Are there enough decent riders in Rest of Europe 1?
They'd still be better than France 2 or Belgium 2. Brajkovic, Sergio Paulinho, Spilak, Roche, Martin, Velits brothers, Siutsou, Kiryienka, few 77+ sprinters etc. Seems like a good enough team to me


You missed that there is also a Slovenia team but yeh, they look good enough
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drd23
SportingNonsense wrote:
drd23 wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
Are there enough decent riders in Rest of Europe 1?
They'd still be better than France 2 or Belgium 2. Brajkovic, Sergio Paulinho, Spilak, Roche, Martin, Velits brothers, Siutsou, Kiryienka, few 77+ sprinters etc. Seems like a good enough team to me


You missed that there is also a Slovenia team but yeh, they look good enough
Yeah, i was looking at the list of the countries that make up each team and Slovenia was on the list. Forgot that there was an actual Slovenia team that means that the good ones wouldn't be on the Europe team
 
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